Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 5/22/2017 8:41 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: Do you have a "traffic light"? I find them invaluable for diagnosing handshaking and TxD/RxD swaps. Yep. constant low on TX. What worked was a serial port on a desktop. The first try. It's entirely possible, but I put a scope on the TX

Re: Directory of old computer collectors

2017-05-22 Thread allison via cctalk
On 05/22/2017 07:44 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: >> On May 22, 2017, at 1:19 PM, steven stengel via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Please let me know if I may, or may not, place your information on the >> public webpage. > As long as it's just city and email address, I

RICM Data General Rescue

2017-05-22 Thread Michael Thompson via cctalk
Dan and I did a rescue run yesterday and came back with four Data General systems; a Nova/3, a Nova/4, an Eclipse S/20, an Eclipse MV/4000, and a large assortment of test equipment and spares. All of the systems are in very nice condition. The Eclipse S/20 is mounted in a cabinet with a model 6125

Re: RICM Data General Rescue

2017-05-22 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 07:30:07PM -0400, Michael Thompson via cctech wrote: > Dan and I did a rescue run yesterday and came back with four Data General > systems; a Nova/3, a Nova/4, an Eclipse S/20, an Eclipse MV/4000, and a > large assortment of test equipment and spares. Nice score! mcl

Expander Model 1

2017-05-22 Thread Brad H via cctalk
Curious about this machine.  I've seen a few come up on ebay and they've sold for not much money, mistaken as mere Apple II clones.  I read Lee Felsenstein's account of creating them and they seem like interesting machines.  Wondering what sort of value is reasonable to pay for one and how hard

Re: Directory of old computer collectors

2017-05-22 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 5/22/2017 7:28 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: I have no idea if I am on this list or not but I do not want to be on it at all. Likewise. Although I support the general notion, I have no idea if I was listed on it either, and it would have been better to contact the people on it

Re: Directory of old computer collectors

2017-05-22 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> I have no idea if I am on this list or not but I do not want to be on it at > all. Likewise. Although I support the general notion, I have no idea if I was listed on it either, and it would have been better to contact the people on it individually regarding permission IMHO. I'd prefer not to

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> On May 22, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Jim Brain via cctalk >> wrote: >> OK, go ahead and roll your eyes at me, but I was Dayton Hamvention last >> weekend, >> and there was a lonely Teletype

Re: Directory of old computer collectors

2017-05-22 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On May 22, 2017, at 1:19 PM, steven stengel via cctalk > wrote: > > Please let me know if I may, or may not, place your information on the public > webpage. As long as it's just city and email address, I don't mind being on the list. My email address and city are

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Does your PC have real RS232? A lot of "RS232" ports are serial ports, The "CLASSIC" example: manager of the Radio Shack Computer Center told me that the TRS80 Model 1 Expansion Interface RS-232 board was, "by definition" completely "standard" for RS-232, since "RS-232" stood for "RADIO SHACK

Re: Directory of old computer collectors

2017-05-22 Thread Ed via cctalk
Risk indeed,.. Pity the fool that brags he has an APPLE 1... In a message dated 5/22/2017 2:06:36 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: I really think you should give people the chance to yay/neh their listing and a way to edit/delete. Otherwise it's a

Re: Directory of old computer collectors

2017-05-22 Thread william degnan via cctalk
I really think you should give people the chance to yay/neh their listing and a way to edit/delete. Otherwise it's a potential risk. Letting the world know who has what where coukld invite a thief under the right circumstances now that I think about it. Bill Degnan twitter: billdeg

Re: Directory of old computer collectors

2017-05-22 Thread Jason Scott via cctalk
I have no idea if I am on this list or not but I do not want to be on it at all. On May 22, 2017 16:52, "Mark Linimon via cctalk" wrote: > I do not want my location information published other than city. > > mcl >

Re: Directory of old computer collectors #3

2017-05-22 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 5/22/2017 1:34 PM, steven stengel via cctalk wrote: Regarding the previous message, all email will be obfuscated to foil scrapers. I already sent Steve a whitelisted email (unique to this use) and my spam proof phone# (Google Voice). I hope this is handy for people as Steve gets a lot of

Directory of old computer collectors #3

2017-05-22 Thread steven stengel via cctalk
Regarding the previous message, all email will be obfuscated to foil scrapers.

Directory of old computer collectors #2

2017-05-22 Thread steven stengel via cctalk
Regrading the previous message, the map would just show the city, not your actually home address, which I do not have, but to be honest, anyone could find it using the internet.

Re: Directory of old computer collectors

2017-05-22 Thread william degnan via cctalk
can you send a link to the people who are on the list so they can see their listing? I personally don't mind as long as any record that includes me personally does not include my email address or phone number.I much prefer to send people to my web page contact form. Bill Degnan Landenberg,

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/22/2017 10:44 AM, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > I know it's not considered a "true" teletype, because it's > essentially a little uC, a KB, and a little dot matrix printer, but I > will wear the stigma of shame of not owning a "proper" mechanical > model 33. I got home last night, and the

Directory of old computer collectors

2017-05-22 Thread steven stengel via cctalk
Hi, In the past, I requested the email address and home city of old computer collectors to a compile a list for my own purposes. Over 120 people had responded, which is great! Now I want to make this list PUBLIC with a Google map showing everyones location, email, and collecting preferences.

RE: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
Not exactly computer related, but many years ago I was looking for a new slide projector. I went into Dixons, at the time a UK electronics and photo store. A young man who said he knew everything about projectors said he would show me the device.. After asking a couple of questions, and

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
If someone in the Pacific NW would like to have one, I'm in Portland and go to Seattle from time to time. Would like to at least see of it can find a home https://goo.gl/photos/e2J5vHDGB6UtVFS49 The tractor feed belts have gone to plasticizer heaven On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Jim

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

2017-05-22 Thread shadoooo via cctalk
Hello, I would really like the Dectalk, if somebody could ship it to me in Italy. Anybody could help me with this? Thanks Andrea

Re: Announcing: VCF Midwest 12!

2017-05-22 Thread Alan Hightower via cctalk
Is it this one? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5574940 [1] Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky and Mike. If I like the girl who cares who you like? Certainly a festive - and vintage - New Edition... -Alan On 2017-05-22 12:19, Evan Koblentz via cctalk wrote: >> Very cool! Wish we had one of these up

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Norman Jaffe via cctalk
I had an employee of an electronics store tell me that the IBM modem software on the 5.25" floppy for Windows would work fine on my Macintosh... in the days long before Macintosh systems used non-Motorola processors. That was a fun 'discussion'. From: "cctalk" To:

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 22 May 2017, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2017, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Does your PC have real RS232? A lot of "RS232" ports are serial ports, but not with correct RS232 levels. If you have "TTL RS232" [sic] it won't work with an actual RS232 port. The

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 22 May 2017, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Does your PC have real RS232? A lot of "RS232" ports are serial ports, but not with correct RS232 levels. If you have "TTL RS232" [sic] it won't work with an actual RS232 port. The "CLASSIC" example: manager of the Radio Shack Computer

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 22, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Jim Brain via cctalk > wrote: > > OK, go ahead and roll your eyes at me, but I was Dayton Hamvention last > weekend, and there was a lonely Teletype Model 43 sitting in the flea market > (on the ground, no less) for free, and so I decided

Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
OK, go ahead and roll your eyes at me, but I was Dayton Hamvention last weekend, and there was a lonely Teletype Model 43 sitting in the flea market (on the ground, no less) for free, and so I decided I needed it in my life. I know it's not considered a "true" teletype, because it's

RE: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

2017-05-22 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pontus > Pihlgren via cctalk > Sent: 22 May 2017 12:58 > To: classic...@crash.com; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa

Re: Announcing: VCF Midwest 12!

2017-05-22 Thread Evan Koblentz via cctalk
Very cool! Wish we had one of these up here in Vancouver, BC. Vintage Computer Federation will announce a NEW edition of the festival soon.

Re: CFL

2017-05-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/22/2017 09:08 AM, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote: > Don't forget playing with a big tub of Hg in chemistry class. Heh. I remember building a mercury diffusion pump as a special class project. If a kid was to spill as much mercury today that I spilled back then, they'd probably raze

Re: PDP Power Usage WAS: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-22 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 05/22/2017 10:23 AM, Doug Ingraham via cctalk wrote: For even less power would be to use an Arduino (probably a Due) because then you are talking less than 4 watts. This would be about 35 cents per month. I wouldn't want to run my Straight 8 24x7.and pay the power bill. Or, a Beagle Bone

RE: CFL

2017-05-22 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
Chuck Guzis wrote: > I don't really want to contribute to perpetuating this thread, but I wonder > if there's more mercury in an amalgam dental filling (which many > of us have) than in a CFL. And that mercury is in your mouth. > > Mercury switches were unsurpassed for reliability--I miss them.

Re: CFL

2017-05-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/22/2017 07:52 AM, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote: > I never said I wasn't worried about both fluorescents and CFL's. I > find it horrendous that people freak out over CFL's yet blithely > throw their fluorescents into the garbage without a thought; And yet > older fluorescents were far

Re: PDP Power Usage WAS: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-22 Thread Doug Ingraham via cctalk
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: > > ___ > > The plate on the back of my 11/93 says 345 Watts. That's about a fifth > > what your wifes hair dryer draws. Or slightly more than 3 100 watt > > light bulbs (which your

Re: CFL

2017-05-22 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 08:13:51AM -0500, js--- via cctalk wrote: ... > Maybe you don't, but I sure worry about fluorescents AND CFLS's breaking. > Although the document you link to is specific for businesses in just > 4 states, the entire document IS concerned with the hazard these bulbs > are.

Re: OT: Mercury (Was: BBS software for the PDP 11)

2017-05-22 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 22, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Christian Groessler via cctalk > wrote: > > At least here in the EU, they banned mercury batteries, mostly used by old > photo gear, and then supported light bulbs containing mercury. > > How many people will need and by these batteries

OT: Mercury (Was: BBS software for the PDP 11)

2017-05-22 Thread Christian Groessler via cctalk
At least here in the EU, they banned mercury batteries, mostly used by old photo gear, and then supported light bulbs containing mercury. How many people will need and by these batteries and how many people need and buy light bulbs? Go figure... regards, chris On 05/22/17 15:20, Bill

OT (was RE: CFL AND BBS software for PDP11)

2017-05-22 Thread Jay West via cctalk
Unless somehow the discussion of CFL bulbs revolves around front panel light replacement this thread needs to die. J

RE: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-22 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
OK, I retract my statement. I researched it and apparently the government no longer cares. I refused to use them when they first came out because they were considered environmental nightmares and, at least in PA, there were strict controls. I still wouldn't use them, but then I don't have to

Re: KDF 8189 processor board foobared (ebay warning)

2017-05-22 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: >> KDJ11-D (M7554) aka PDP-11/53 "All you need to add is a hard drive >> controller." >> >> See: http://home.windstream.net/engdahl/kdj11.htm > > Yeah, a DECserver 500 or 550 version of an M7554 is usually the

Re: CFL

2017-05-22 Thread js--- via cctalk
On 5/22/2017 6:39 AM, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 07:20:34AM -0400, Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote: And if you break one you have to call HAZMAT. You did realize that, didn't you? They contain mercury and any breakage requires professional remediation by law!!

Re: CFL (was: Re: BBS software for the PDP 11)

2017-05-22 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via cctalk
You don't even need call the law if you break a mercury thermometer, which is about 3-4 grams of mercury. A bulb has what, a few miligrams?

Re: BBS software for the PDP 11

2017-05-22 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt via cctalk
And if you break one you have to call HAZMAT. You did realize that, didn't you? They contain mercury and any breakage requires professional remediation by law!! Uhm... No you don't. Stop the fearmongering please ...

Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

2017-05-22 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 07:40:18PM -0700, classiccmp--- via cctalk wrote: > > DECtalk DTC01 I've been looking for one of these for ages :) Someone should rescue it. /P

Re: CFL (was: Re: BBS software for the PDP 11)

2017-05-22 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 07:20:34AM -0400, Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote: > > And if you break one you have to call HAZMAT. You did realize that, > > didn't you? They contain mercury and any breakage requires professional > > remediation by law!! > > Please quit spreading this urban legend.

RE: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

2017-05-22 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Too bad I'm on the wrong coast. I would love and RS68K or two. :-( Even a Decstation!! bill From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of classiccmp--- via cctalk [cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:31 PM To:

CFL (was: Re: BBS software for the PDP 11)

2017-05-22 Thread Ken Seefried via cctalk
> And if you break one you have to call HAZMAT. You did realize that, > didn't you? They contain mercury and any breakage requires professional > remediation by law!! Please quit spreading this urban legend. Some care in handling is recommended, but no professional help is required, by law!

RE: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA

2017-05-22 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of classiccmp-- > - via cctalk > Sent: 22 May 2017 03:32 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: FTGH clear-out at Mesa Electronics, Richmond, CA, USA > > Regarding the thread started by Peter