Re: Message 4 on Computing from 1976

2017-12-31 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
"Message: 4 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 10:35:18 +1100 From: Nigel Williams To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Computing from 1976 Message-ID:

Re: Attaching SIMH devices without halting simulation?

2017-12-31 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Dec 31, 2017, at 5:07 PM, J. David Bryan via cctalk > wrote: > > > You mentioned that you "tried putting the system console on a telnet port," > so you might have used the "SET CONSOLE TELNET" command (section 3.14 in > the user's guide). Ah, yes, I think that's

Re: Attaching SIMH devices without halting simulation?

2017-12-31 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 14:03, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > That appears to work perfectly. I don't know what I did wrong when I tried > that before. You mentioned that you "tried putting the system console on a telnet port," so you might have used the "SET CONSOLE TELNET" command

Re: DEC quad board rack

2017-12-31 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Michael Zahorik > a dozen or so spare boards for my PDP8E. I was wondering about how to > store them. Some guys recommend some poly bags, others say it is > important to protect against humidity. ... have you had any failures > while in storage? Well, i) most of my

RE: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-31 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk
Ok well I have checked and it looks like Lyndon is on the yahoo MTS list, but his mail supplier may be filing as spam. Umm ... his email supplier is him. I've been running my own mail servers since the early 1980s. If anything is getting bounced, it's because my email servers brand the

RE: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-31 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Ok well I have checked and it looks like Lyndon is on the yahoo MTS list, but his mail supplier may be filing as spam. Dave > -Original Message- > From: Lyndon Nerenberg [mailto:lyn...@orthanc.ca] > Sent: 01 January 2018 00:13 > To: Dave Wade > Cc: 'General

RE: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-31 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk
Lyndon, Seeing as the folks who set up the original distribution are on the Yahoo list it's the best place to ask questions. I assume you don't want to set up a Yahoo account? Facebook perhaps? I did fight my way thought the Yahoo interface to get onto at least one of the MTS groups via the

Re: Attaching SIMH devices without halting simulation?

2017-12-31 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Dec 31, 2017, at 14:10, william degnan wrote: > > I thought you set all devices you planned to use "online" so you could mount > them later? I don't simh vax much so thanks for the correction as to the > procedure. I mostly do pdp8 or pdp11 stuff, or esoteric

Re: Attaching SIMH devices without halting simulation?

2017-12-31 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
Typically you need to have devices online so the OS will see them at startup. But for removable media devices (tapes and many disks) you may want to mount the media (image files) later on, and switch them at runtime, exactly as you would do with disk packs or tape reels on a real computer.

Re: Attaching SIMH devices without halting simulation?

2017-12-31 Thread william degnan via cctalk
I thought you set all devices you planned to use "online" so you could mount them later? I don't simh vax much so thanks for the correction as to the procedure. I mostly do pdp8 or pdp11 stuff, or esoteric hardware. Bill Degnan twitter: billdeg vintagecomputer.net On Dec 31, 2017 5:03 PM, "Mark

Re: Attaching SIMH devices without halting simulation?

2017-12-31 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Dec 31, 2017, at 13:52, J. David Bryan wrote: > > See section 3.15, "Remote Console" in the SIMH User's Guide. The "SET > REMOTE TELNET" command will allow you to attach and detach while the > simulator is running. That appears to work perfectly. I don't know what I

Re: Attaching SIMH devices without halting simulation?

2017-12-31 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Dec 31, 2017, at 13:47, william degnan wrote: > > Yes, but you were not able to attach in your startup script? That's when to > do it. > It's common practice, and frequently a necessity, to mount media such as tapes without rebooting the machine they're being

Re: Attaching SIMH devices without halting simulation?

2017-12-31 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 12:58, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > Is there any way to attach/detach media images in SIMH without halting the > simulation? See section 3.15, "Remote Console" in the SIMH User's Guide. The "SET REMOTE TELNET" command will allow you to attach and detach

Re: Attaching SIMH devices without halting simulation?

2017-12-31 Thread william degnan via cctalk
Yes, but you were not able to attach in your startup script? That's when to do it. Bill Degnan twitter: billdeg vintagecomputer.net On Dec 31, 2017 3:59 PM, "Mark J. Blair via cctalk" wrote: > I've been experimenting with the SIMH VAX simulators a lot lately. The > only

Attaching SIMH devices without halting simulation?

2017-12-31 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
I've been experimenting with the SIMH VAX simulators a lot lately. The only way I know of to mount a tape, disk pack, CD-ROM, etc. after boot time is to halt the simulation with ^e to get to the SIMH command prompt, ATTACH the desired image, and then resume the simulation with CONTINUE. Is

VAX/VMS & IBM 360 manuals from mid 1980s

2017-12-31 Thread Stan Sieler via cctalk
Hi, A friend, probably in Ohio, tells me his father has 3 boxes (about 150 pounds) of manuals for VAX/VMS and IBM 360 from the mid 1980s. If anyone's interested in following up, email me and I'll send you the contact info. thanks, and Happy New Year! Stan Sieler

Re: ZX Spectrum Z80 Keeps Resetting

2017-12-31 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 31 Dec 2017, at 20:09, Rob Jarratt via cctalk > wrote: > > For some time now I have had a couple of ZX Spectrum machines. Neither > works, each has a different problem. Today I got one of them out for another > look. The problem with it is that it seems to

Re: ZX Spectrum Z80 Keeps Resetting

2017-12-31 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/31/2017 02:09 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: For some time now I have had a couple of ZX Spectrum machines. Neither works, each has a different problem. Today I got one of them out for another look. The problem with it is that it seems to constantly reset itself, you see the copyright

RE: Computing from 1976

2017-12-31 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rob Jarratt > via cctalk > Sent: 31 December 2017 20:11 > To: '. .' ; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: Computing from

RE: Computing from 1976

2017-12-31 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of . . via > cctalk > Sent: 31 December 2017 18:24 > Cc: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Computing from 1976 > > Is there a good place to hunt or purchase DEC/VAX stuff here in Europe please/ >

ZX Spectrum Z80 Keeps Resetting

2017-12-31 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
For some time now I have had a couple of ZX Spectrum machines. Neither works, each has a different problem. Today I got one of them out for another look. The problem with it is that it seems to constantly reset itself, you see the copyright screen briefly and then it disappears (the TV screen

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-31 Thread . . via cctalk
Is there a good place to hunt or purchase DEC/VAX stuff here in Europe please/ Thanks PS: Used to work for DEC in Canada :) > Original Message > Subject: Computing from 1976 > Local Time: December 31, 2017 7:20 PM > UTC Time: December 31, 2017 6:20 PM > From:

Computing from 1976

2017-12-31 Thread Gerhard Kreuzer via cctalk
Hi, I was working 1976 as a volunteer at a research center near Vienna in Austria writing FORTRAN programs on a PDP8a. We also have a PDP8/e there. Now I am collecting DEC stuff. Happy new year Gerhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: cctalk

Re: Slightly Meta: Travel tips for people traveling internationally with vintage equipment?

2017-12-31 Thread Tony Aiuto via cctalk
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 6:10 AM, Michael Brutman via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I'm actively working on show planning for VCF PNW and I'm noticing that we > have a few international travelers planning to attend and exhibit their > machines/projects. I'd like to put together a FAQ

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-31 Thread Charles Anthony via cctalk
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > Stranger still is the "fancy" lights in RSTS ... "Fancy" because it > > produces a rotating pattern not just in the data lights which is > easy, > > but also in the address lights. It runs

Re: DEC quad board rack

2017-12-31 Thread Michael Zahorik via cctalk
Noel, I recently I picked up a dozen or so spare boards for my PDP8E. I was wondering about how to store them. Some guys recommend some poly bags, others say it is important to protect against humidity. You sure have a boat load of cards, have you had any failures while in storage? Thanks Mike

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-31 Thread dwight via cctalk
One thing that is starting to hurt with larger use of memory is the ability to access and load such large blocks of memory. I'm not saying that access speed haven't gone up but we are quickly reaching a wall, similar to the 4gig clock speed wall for the processors. Throwing more cache layers

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-31 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Dec 31, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > ... >> >> Ah; it must busy loop at loops spread across the address space? Clever! >> (Perhaps using the mapping hardware so that it doesn't use too much _actual_ >> memory.) Is the source available? >

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-31 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Dec 31, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Paul Koning > >> RSTS-11 V4, which had a major reliability problem ... As part of trying >> to keep the customer placated, DEC supplied full OS sources, 5 >> dectapes. ... We printed them ... I

RE: DEC quad board rack

2017-12-31 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Noel > Chiappa via cctalk > Sent: 31 December 2017 14:32 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu > Subject: DEC quad board rack > > So, I've been making wooden racks to hold a lot of

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-31 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Paul Koning > RSTS-11 V4, which had a major reliability problem ... As part of trying > to keep the customer placated, DEC supplied full OS sources, 5 > dectapes. ... We printed them ... I still have copies of those files. Is that version available online? If not, maybe

Re: DEC quad board rack

2017-12-31 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2017-12-31 07:32, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: So, I've been making wooden racks to hold a lot of my DEC boards, and I've finally come up with a nice design for one, which holds quad boards: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/jpg/QuadRack.jpg which holds them vertically. Nice!

DEC quad board rack

2017-12-31 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
So, I've been making wooden racks to hold a lot of my DEC boards, and I've finally come up with a nice design for one, which holds quad boards: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/jpg/QuadRack.jpg which holds them vertically. It's much better than the dual rack next to it, which holds them

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-31 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 05:43:34PM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Sat, 30 Dec 2017, ben via cctalk wrote: >> I find I want use computers less , 5+ minutes to boot something that then >> needs to check the net. I use a all valve audio system and tubes are warmed >> up and ready to go

Re: Computing from 1976

2017-12-31 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 02:55:10PM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [...] > OK, a little arithmetic exercise for you. > (a 16C is nice for this, but hardly necessary) > "Moore's Law", which was a prediction, not a "LAW", has often been mis-stated > as predicting a doubling of speed/capacity