Re: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Jan 4, 2018 22:17, "TeoZ via cctalk" wrote: 100GB M-Discs are dual layer BlueRay media correct (not readable on a DVD player)? I actually have a BDXL BR burner. They are three-layer, and will ONLY work on BDXL drives, not older BD drives.

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Wayne Sudol via cctalk
You forgot "Outer Limits". I put that show in the same category. Wayne Sudol Riverside PressEnterprise A DigitalFirst Media Newspaper. On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> Funny, I've

Re: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread dwight via cctalk
For other reasons, I was just at costco and bought a 500Gig solid state for $150. It is about the size of a postcard ( only square ). It is USB though, so loading that much may take a while. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of TeoZ

Re: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread TeoZ via cctalk
100GB M-Discs are dual layer BlueRay media correct (not readable on a DVD player)? I actually have a BDXL BR burner. I also have the M-Disc capable DVD burners but never tried that media on them. -Original Message- From: Fred Cisin via cctalk Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 9:38 PM

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 01/04/2018 12:00 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: This may be off-topic but these latest uprocessor exploits has raised a question: Are the 'old/classic' uprocessors using x86 technology in the same boat? The very earliest ones, i.e., 1970s and early 80's. probably not. How many are

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 01/04/2018 05:50 PM, TeoZ via cctalk wrote: > Hard drives NEVER keep up. Bragging about how many DVD's (90's > technology) you can store on current HD means little to people who have > ultra HD Blueray videos that take up to 100GB of space. Heck even a > single game download can be 50GB these

Re: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
Files grew up in size, in an unbelieable scale. I follow the tips of my friends: Buy new HDs and use old ones for storage. I have a 5TB (expensive) external 3 1/2 HD on my home server, and some 1TB HDs used as backups. If you count capacity, cheaper than DVDs-DL or BDs. Em 05/01/2018

Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, TeoZ wrote: Hard drives NEVER keep up. Bragging about how many DVD's (90's technology) you can store on current HD means little to people who have ultra HD Blueray videos that take up to 100GB of space. Heck even a single game download can be 50GB these days. I'd be

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread TeoZ via cctalk
Hard drives NEVER keep up. Bragging about how many DVD's (90's technology) you can store on current HD means little to people who have ultra HD Blueray videos that take up to 100GB of space. Heck even a single game download can be 50GB these days. And I wouldn't mind one of those old

OT: MP4s (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, Wayne Sudol wrote: You forgot "Outer Limits". I put that show in the same category. I'll be adding the Original Series later this month. I haven't made a decision about the revival. I use a Seagate GoFlex-TV; 2TB is the largest thin 2.5" SATA currently available. also

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Funny, I've been saying since the 1980s that it you have something that's critical to your survival, keep it offline. Until any of my PCs develop the ability to go to my storage cabinet and fetch a DVD and load it into itself, I'm not sorried.

RE: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Ali via cctalk
> Funny, I've been saying since the 1980s that it you have something > that's critical to your survival, keep it offline. Here here! I hope this is a wakeup call to all the people out there with all the unnecessary connected "lives". Forget all the social media BS but also the cloud storage,

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 01/04/2018 01:08 PM, Sophie Haskins via cctalk wrote: > It's kind of fascinating to run in to a cross-platform vulnerability > like this! Is anyone else aware of similar vulnerabilities from > history that also affected multiple processors, but relied on their > implementation details? Funny,

SGI Onyx 2 going begging (in South Africa, AFAICT)

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Re: Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Sophie Haskins via cctalk
I misspoke - Spectre potentially affects all processors that use *pipelining and speculative execution*, not just superscalar ones (I mis-parsed "all modern processors capable of keeping many instructions in flight"). There's been ongoing patches to the Linux kernel for Meltdown (and for other

Re: Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
http://www.zdnet.com/article/intel-starts-issuing-patches-for-meltdown-spectre-vulnerabilities/?loc=newsletter_large_thumb_related=TREc64629f=46856739   this  just  hit  my email box. Ed#   In a message dated 1/4/2018 1:54:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:  

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Sophie Haskins via cctalk
>From the exploit homepage (https://spectreattack.com/) , it seems like the Meltdown vulnerability affects all out-of-order executing Intel *branded* CPUs (from the P6 onward), and the Spectre vulnerability potentially impacts all superscalar processors of...all brands potentially :( Sophie On

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 1/4/2018 12:34 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: what about  xenon processors?? ed# In a message dated 1/4/2018 1:18:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: There is no difference between them and any other intel x86 or x64 processor as far as the flaw

Re: Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
what about  xenon processors?? ed#   In a message dated 1/4/2018 1:18:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   - Original Message - From: "Warner Losh via cctalk" To: "Murray McCullough" ; "General

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Warner Losh via cctalk" To: "Murray McCullough" ; "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Spectre & Meltdown > On

Re: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Murray McCullough via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > This may be off-topic but these latest uprocessor exploits has raised > a question: Are the 'old/classic' uprocessors using x86 technology in > the same boat? The very earliest ones, i.e., 1970s and

Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
This may be off-topic but these latest uprocessor exploits has raised a question: Are the 'old/classic' uprocessors using x86 technology in the same boat? The very earliest ones, i.e., 1970s and early 80's. probably not. How many are actually in use and/or on the Net? Happy computing! Murray :)

Re: ZX Spectrum Z80 Keeps Resetting

2018-01-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 4 January 2018 at 08:21, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > I am still hoping someone will know if I can try swapping the ULA with a > newer one from a later model I have. I may also look at getting a NebULA as > they are not expensive. Possibly helpful...