MACSYMA classic

Eric Swenson got the original-ish MACSYMA built and running in ITS. It's frankensteined together from a mix of source and FASL files from ITS, Lisp machine Macsyma sources, etc.

RE: Foonlies

From: Lars Brinkhoff Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 11:28 AM > Al Kossow wrote: >>> SUPERFOONLY DESIGNED 1968-71 >>> 10,000 TTL IC'S >>> 3 MIPS >> Was this ever built? 10K ICs would have been bigger than the Livermore S-1. > This says the Superfoonly was designed. Doesn't say it was

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

For extra credit was it drawn in any particular vintage software or computer? Not to my knowledge.

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

Apple II IMSAI ColecoVision That's exactly right. We wanted to show some of his favorite systems. We already knew he likes cats, robots, Star Trek, and building electronic gadgets. In any event, nice shirt :-) Thank you.

Re: Foonlies

Yes, they merged @ 1996 with the new company being named AII ("A" eye-eye). Then the combined company was bought by AGFA @2001. All the big daily newspapers used their photo typesetters, the Autologic model APS6 and/or the III 3850. They were fast and didn't break much and used Harlequin

Re: chip technology dead-ends (was: Foonlies)

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 07:07:23PM -0800, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > Back in the 70s, 4000-series CMOS was among the slowest logic around. I really wish I still had one technical magazine that came out during the late 70s/early 80s. (I don't remember which one it was, anymore.) It was

Re: Foonlies

> And, if you went to 74S, Fast or 74AS, you could easily match the ECL > 10K performance. Now, there were a bunch of tricks that you could use with > ECL that helped, like wired-OR instead of adding a tri-state buffer. ECL > had a notable advantage in 1970, but as TTL derivatives continued to >

Re: Foonlies

Wayne S wrote: > Was this the machine that Triple I/Autologic created to digitize old > color film movies? > AFIK, it used lasers to scan the film and create digital color seps > that were recombined later in the process. It was used in the Kate > Winslett / Leonardo DiCaprio remake of "Titanic".

Re: Foonlies

On 01/31/2018 04:26 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > Then again, DEC Western Research Lab in the mid 1980s did an > interesting project to do a full custom single ECL chip > implementation of a MIPS (or Alpha?) CPU, intended to run at 1 GHz. > The CAD system they built for this was quite

Re: Foonlies

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:00:53AM -0800, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> An all-ECL redesign (details escape me) resulted in no appreciable >> improvement in performance. > > But I'm sure the local

Re: Foonlies

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 10:00:53AM -0800, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > An all-ECL redesign (details escape me) resulted in no appreciable > improvement in performance. But I'm sure the local power company appreciated the extra revenue they got from it. (I recently donated the little chunk of

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

For extra credit was it drawn in any particular vintage software or computer?

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

Gene wrote... Just...no. Yeah, agreed. No. Fred wrote... The "nuts" and "bolts" should be capacitors and chips. The squared off U shaped object nearest on the desk >should be replaced by an Escher Fork (aka impossible >trident). soldering iron and scope, instead of hammer. maybe some magic

Re: Foonlies

Was this the machine that Triple I/Autologic created to digitize old color film movies? AFIK, it used lasers to scan the film and create digital color seps that were recombined later in the process. It was used in the Kate Winslett / Leonardo DiCaprio remake of "Titanic". Autologic even got

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

Thanks, Evan. With that bit of background, I personally enjoy the design quite a bit more- and the 'quirkiness' makes a lot more sense. On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I think it would be helpful if Evan and co. chimed in with the

Re: where to find ZCPR2, ZCPR3, ZCPR33, ZCPR34?

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > > Still looking for ZCPR2 and ZCPR34. > Elsewhere nathanael pointed out to me that ZCPR1, ZCPR2, and ZCPR33 may be found at: http://www.classiccmp.org/cpmarchives/ftp.php?b=cpm/Software/WalnutCD/cpm So, still looking for

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

I think it would be helpful if Evan and co. chimed in with the context of the shirt and why it exists- maybe a bit more about who the guy on it is. Fair enough. It's a caricature of Dan Roganti aka Ragooman on this list, VC Forum, various Apple and S-100 forums, etc. Dan drew most of the

Data IO 29B / Unipak 2B adapter?

I need to read a couple of Signetics 82S215 bipolar PROMs with my old Data IO 29B / Unipak 2B. But it needs a 351B-068 adapter. Does anyone has information regarding this adapter? I did find an old post in data_io_ep...@groups.io mailinglist that a man named Alfred Marin had boards. I even found

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

I've been told the fellow in the picture is someone active from the community who I had never heard of or recognized, but who has fallen ill.- which is very sad. And the shirt was made to recognize him. My criticism of the shirt was, admittedly, originally based on the "stereotypical computer

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

On 1/31/18 7:02 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: > Just...no. TOS shirt on someone who looks like Carl Helmers in 1976? Find someone that can draw, or get serious about Cubism. This just looks stupid.

Re: where to find ZCPR2, ZCPR3, ZCPR33, ZCPR34?

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 12:46 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > That site has NZ-COM and Z3PLUS, but I've dug through it and cannot find > ZCPR2, ZCPR33, or ZCPR34. It's possible that they are there somewhere and I > just didn't find them. > OK. Found ZCPR33 on that site in the FOG

RE: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

Gene wrote... Just...no. Yeah, agreed. No. Fred wrote... The "nuts" and "bolts" should be capacitors and chips. The squared off U shaped object nearest on the desk >should be replaced by an Escher Fork (aka impossible >trident). soldering iron and scope, instead of hammer. maybe some magic

Re: Foonlies

On 1/31/18 12:25 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 1/31/18 11:27 AM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: >> There was >> also a fourth whose role (I think) was to build the CAD system which >> was used for the design. He later went to work for DEC. > > SUDS (Stanford University

Re: Foonlies

On 1/31/18 11:27 AM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: > There was > also a fourth whose role (I think) was to build the CAD system which > was used for the design. He later went to work for DEC. SUDS (Stanford University Design System) also used to design the Livermore S-1 Modified

Re: Foonlies

> Jonathan Katz wrote: >> When I asked about Flight of the Navigator many, many moons ago, I >> remember the F1 did the special effects for that movie. That means >> Disney had it for a bit. > Seems it was at Paramount at that time I see now I got an email from Gary Demos 18 years ago. He didn't

Re: where to find ZCPR2, ZCPR3, ZCPR33, ZCPR34?

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 9:29 PM, wrote: > On January 30, 2018 at 3:21 PM Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > Now I'm still looking for ZCPR2, ZCPR33, and ZCPR34. > > I believe you will find this site: > > http://www.znode51.de/indexe.htm > > useful. I could be wrong, but I think

Re: Foonlies

Jonathan Katz wrote: > When I asked about Flight of the Navigator many, many moons ago, I > remember the F1 did the special effects for that movie. That means > Disney had it for a bit. Seems it was at Paramount at that time: "Probably the worst moment of my life with the Foonly came after we

Re: Foonlies

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: > > Before I do anything rash, has anyone seriously tried to track down what > happened to the F1 and/or its software? When I asked about Flight of the Navigator many, many moons ago, I remember the F1 did

Re: Foonlies

Al Kossow wrote: > F1 was the machine that Whitney-Demos had, I think, and there was only ever > one of them. Before I do anything rash, has anyone seriously tried to track down what happened to the F1 and/or its software?

Re: Foonlies

On 01/31/2018 12:00 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 01/31/2018 06:00 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Wow, 10 years later, with faster chips, and still the same speed? That's surprising. I believe that Honeywell went through a similar exercise at one point. An all-ECL redesign

Re: Foonlies

On 01/31/2018 11:43 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 1/31/18 12:28 AM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: SUPERFOONLY DESIGNED 1968-71 10,000 TTL IC'S 3 MIPS Was this ever built? 10K ICs would have been bigger than the Livermore S-1. F1 was the machine that Whitney-Demos had, I think, and

RE: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

Gene wrote... > Just...no. Yeah, agreed. No. Fred wrote... >The "nuts" and "bolts" should be capacitors and chips. >The squared off U shaped object nearest on the desk >should be replaced by an Escher Fork (aka impossible >trident). >soldering iron and scope, instead of hammer. >maybe some magic

Re: Foonlies

On 01/31/2018 06:00 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > Wow, 10 years later, with faster chips, and still the same speed? That's > surprising. I believe that Honeywell went through a similar exercise at one point. An all-ECL redesign (details escape me) resulted in no appreciable improvement

Re: Foonlies

On 1/31/18 12:28 AM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: > SUPERFOONLY DESIGNED 1968-71 > 10,000 TTL IC'S > 3 MIPS Was this ever built? 10K ICs would have been bigger than the Livermore S-1. F1 was the machine that Whitney-Demos had, I think, and there was only ever one of them.

Re: Foonlies

On 01/31/2018 08:00 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:28 AM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: This document seems to imply that the Super Foonly and the Foonly F1 were separate machines. When I've seen them discussed, they always seemed to be

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

Here's a sneak preview of the shirt design for all of the 2018 Vintage Computer Federation events. As usual, each event will have a different shirt color. Dan Roganti aka Ragooman used to design the VCF East shirts. Any similarity to him or his interests in the current design is purely

Re: Sneak peak: this year's VCF PNW/East/West shirt design

On Tue, 30 Jan 2018, Evan Koblentz via cctalk wrote: Here's a sneak preview of the shirt design for all of the 2018 Vintage Computer Federation events. As usual, each event will have a different shirt color. Dan Roganti aka Ragooman used to design the VCF East shirts. Any similarity to him

Re: Foonlies

> On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:28 AM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk > wrote: > > This document seems to imply that the Super Foonly and the Foonly F1 > were separate machines. When I've seen them discussed, they always > seemed to be uses synonymously. > >

Re: Bluebox boards, anyone?

Neat! I'd be interested in a board. I missed out on the ones being handed out at HOPE in 2008 (The Last HOPE, for which a friend and I embarked on a last-minute trip to NYC for I think around $150 total, for the both of us). Thanks, Jonathan On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:04 AM, David Griffith via

Bluebox boards, anyone?

Would anyone like a bluebox PCB or two? This project was inspired by Don Froula's ProjectMF[1] in which he presents a PIC-based bluebox[2] and PCB (handed out at HOPE in 2008). A big reason I like AVRs more than PICs is because the development software is OSS and free. So I reimplemented

Re: who is in this picture? (VCF 199x)

I believe that's Pavl Zachary... Photo from 2004 VCF West 7: https://www.flickr.com/photos/geekmuseum/2908317855 On 1/30/2018 3:55 PM, Bill Degnan via cctech wrote: https://retropopplanet.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/vintage-computer.jpg I was not at this particular VCF out in California in

Re: X11 expertise on ancient HW sought... (4-plane visual (overlay) via X-server on MS-WIndows)

I believe that my case is identical to the original message of the list and 24-bit is required. The problematic visual (the one which is not provided by the external X-server) is the following (I cite an extract from xdpyinfo on the original system): * visual:* *visual id:0x36* *

Foonlies

This document seems to imply that the Super Foonly and the Foonly F1 were separate machines. When I've seen them discussed, they always seemed to be uses synonymously. http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp10/KC10_Jupiter/memos/foonly_19840410.pdf SUPERFOONLY DESIGNED 1968-71 10,000 TTL IC'S 3