Re: I ran across this strange modernistic? Data General ...odd?

2018-05-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/22/2018 10:46 PM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctech wrote: > This is with a microEclipse CPU, right? > > I'm surprised the Nova/Eclipse architecture doesn't get more love. > It seems quite pleasant. > As I recall--and please correct me--DG was extremely hostile to the notion of third parties inco

Re: Original CAD code in the wild?

2018-05-23 Thread Paul McJones via cctalk
Randy, Although there are people interested in collecting historic software (especially source code), I don’t know of a central place to discuss it. I’ve collected the original IBM 704 Fortran/Fortran II compiler, the original IBM 709x Lisp II interpreter, and various other things (see http://

Re: I ran across this strange modernistic? Data General ...odd?

2018-05-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 23 May 2018 at 17:47, Chuck Guzis via cctech wrote: > The same situation applied to the Fairchild 9440 MicroFlame, which was > essentially a clone of the MicroNova architecture. This led me to some fascinating stuff. Thanks! The CPU: http://www.cpushack.com/2017/11/14/cpu-of-the-day-fa

VCF East Photo Thread

2018-05-23 Thread Jason T via cctalk
Many are appearing on the VCFed mailing list already. Here are mine, with separate sets for the non-computer (but still interesting) stuff: http://silent700.blogspot.com/2018/05/vcf-east-2018.html I had a good time and recommend the show to all who can make it out there. -j

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:59 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > I talked with my friend who worked at Solbourne longer than I did. > > Oooh. Dieter, maybe? Yes. > This isn't quite right. The connectors are different, but the signalling > is > > the same. You need

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> I talked with my friend who worked at Solbourne longer than I did. Oooh. Dieter, maybe? > This isn't quite right. The connectors are different, but the signalling is > the same. You need a custom adapter, though, so you get the right signals > on the right pins. Solbourne specifically made thei

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/23/2018 06:53 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I /think/ I knew that.  But I obviously forgot it. pop.googlemail.com port 995. > Yep, Gmail supports Google Sync. > > Link - What is Google Sync? >  - https://support.google.com/a/answer/135937?hl=en I'd prefer to keep my own messag

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Alan Perry wrote: > > You are correct. I misremembered this section from > https://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/solace/ > > Why don't Sun keyboards work? What about mice? None of the Sun keyboards > will work with the Solbourne and vice versa. At best they won't wor

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 05/23/2018 11:30 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Gmail also allows for a POP3 interface. I /think/ I knew that. But I obviously forgot it. I was actually trying to remember if Gmail had something more akin to ActiveSync or something else that ran over top of HTTPS that email clients co

Re: HP 9000-236 (9836CU) video cable.

2018-05-23 Thread Robert via cctalk
Thanks, chaps. Tony: That pinout is great, many thanks! It will help me if I have to build a cable. I don't suppose that there's a part number on yours? If there are any for sale the p/n might help me find one. Rico: If I have any HP-UX it will be on one of several SC80 hard drives - I have no r

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, May 23, 2018, 11:40 AM Cameron Kaiser via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Does the S4100 support a serial console? > > Yes, it should. I forget how to set this up because mine weren't headless, > but they do. The boot roms are basically from the same sources... but I think tha

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> Does the S4100 support a serial console? Yes, it should. I forget how to set this up because mine weren't headless, but they do. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- I

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/23/2018 08:49 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > How are you interfacing with Gmail?  IMAP or something else.  —  I think > Thunderbird supports interfacing with Gmail in another protocol.  I may > be wrong. Gmail also allows for a POP3 interface. I'd originally used the suggested IMAP i

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Rico Pajarola via cctalk
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > There are some that a recycler has been trying to sell on eBay. However, > they need a special mouse and keyboard and that seller has none. > I bought one from said recycler a while ago, have been looking for

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 5/23/18 8:54 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > Somewhere I have the field service manual from when I worked there... > > Warner > If it's different from what I have on bitsavers, i'd like to scan it.

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 23 May 2018 at 16:28, JP Hindin via cctalk wrote: > Apologies to hijack this one (I can't tell you how impressed I am with > both the CHM's efforts and Qualcomm's release, I find these things really > exciting for our hobby) - but I've been having real troubles with TBird in > the last fe

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 05/23/2018 09:28 AM, JP Hindin via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2018, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: so I use Thunderbird on a Linux platform. It is awfully slow. Sometimes it takes 5 minutes to download 3 messages when I start it up. At home I use Thunderbird with standard Linux smtp and

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 5/23/18 8:54 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2018, 9:46 AM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 5/23/18 7:51 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: they need a special mouse and keyboard You can run them headless, so they aren't completely useless w/o the keyboard. You do need

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
You are correct. I misremembered this section from https://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/solace/ Why don't Sun keyboards work? What about mice? None of the Sun keyboards will work with the Solbourne and vice versa. At best they won't work; at worst you might short something, depending o

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, May 23, 2018, 9:46 AM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 5/23/18 7:51 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > they need a special mouse and keyboard > > You can run them headless, so they aren't completely useless w/o the > keyboard. > You do need a serial port for that. On boot, the boot

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 05/23/2018 08:28 AM, JP Hindin via cctalk wrote: Apologies to hijack this one (I can't tell you how impressed I am with both the CHM's efforts and Qualcomm's release, I find these things really exciting for our hobby) - but I've been having real troubles with TBird in the last few years and

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 5/23/18 7:51 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > they need a special mouse and keyboard You can run them headless, so they aren't completely useless w/o the keyboard.

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
Iorc, the mice are sun compatable, but that may just be for the IDT workstation. I have a recollection that they are also compatable with the Series 4, 5 and 5e I/O boards. I know a guy that I used to work with there that will know for sure. I'll ask him. He still has a series 5e in service... Wa

Re: Original CAD code in the wild?

2018-05-23 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 09:31 PM 5/20/2018, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote: >For a while I have collected bits of legacy CAD, most recently >Martin Hepperle sent me what I believe is the last version of >Hank Christianson's MOVIE.BYU, a FORTRAN based 3D modeling and animation >system. I supported MovieBYU 3D object

Re: WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
There are some that a recycler has been trying to sell on eBay. However, they need a special mouse and keyboard and that seller has none. alan > On May 23, 2018, at 2:18 AM, Kevin Bowling via cctalk > wrote: > > Looks neat, anyone have one of these things they'd sell me? I'm in > the US Sou

OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread JP Hindin via cctalk
On Tue, 22 May 2018, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: so I use Thunderbird on a Linux platform. It is awfully slow. Sometimes it takes 5 minutes to download 3 messages when I start it up. At home I use Thunderbird with standard Linux smtp and pop servers and it works fine. Apologies to hijack

Re: Digital VT420 repair?

2018-05-23 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
when you power it on, the keyboard light should activate, the screen should display the initialization graphic pattern, print wait on the screen and then beep. My 420 is a little dimmer than I'd like it to be, I assume there is a fix for that internally (read the manuals), but if you're not even g

Digital VT420 repair?

2018-05-23 Thread Waldemar Brodkorb via cctalk
Hi,

Re: I ran across this strange modernistic? Data General ...odd?

2018-05-23 Thread Michael Thompson via cctalk
It could be the Intel 8086 version. I need to look at the serial/model number tags. Sent from my iPhone > On May 23, 2018, at 1:46 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > > Michael Thompson wrote: >> I put a picture of the one at RICM here: >> http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/Home/equipment/data-general-de

Re: I ran across this strange modernistic? Data General ...odd?

2018-05-23 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Michael Thompson wrote: > I put a picture of the one at RICM here: > http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/Home/equipment/data-general-desktop-generation/DG_Desktop_Generation.jpg > > Going from left to right: QIC tape drive, dual floppies, disk drive, > card expansion, CPU, and power supply. We have the

Re: I ran across this strange modernistic? Data General ...odd?

2018-05-23 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
OK if you hear of any monitors or keyboards,please let us knowl! Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 Michael Thompson via cctech wrote: It could be the Intel 8086 version. I need to look at the serial/model number tags. Sent from my iPhone > On May 23, 2018, at 1:46 AM, La

Re: I ran across this strange modernistic? Data General ...odd? computer?

2018-05-23 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
OK always,worth checking! ed# Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > On 23 May 2018, at 03:05, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > > Adrian ... That is great to hear! Any chance of a site photo? Sadly not, because of the nature of the site there’s

WTB: Solbourne computer

2018-05-23 Thread Kevin Bowling via cctalk
Looks neat, anyone have one of these things they'd sell me? I'm in the US Southwest, can ship or travel a bit. Regards, Kevin

Re: I ran across this strange modernistic? Data General ...odd? computer?

2018-05-23 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 23 May 2018, at 03:05, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > > Adrian ... That is great to hear! Any chance of a site photo? Sadly not, because of the nature of the site there’s no pictures allowed. A > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > > On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 Adrian Graham via cctalk > wrot