Re: Q: Plotter bed repair with MonoKote?

2019-02-18 Thread dwight via cctalk
I find that it is too much pre-stretched I carefully remove some of the stretch with a heat gun and a frame to hold it. You'd need to experiment some. It has to have a little stretch left to shrink. Dwight From: cctech on behalf of David Collins via cctech

Re: RS/6000 7043-140 boot floppies

2019-02-18 Thread Tapley, Mark via cctalk
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 4:42 PM, Alan Perry wrote: > … > Yes, it has a CD drive. Do you recall what month the discussion was so I know > where to start looking in the list archive? > > It sounds as if Solaris doesn't run on the 604e in the 43p/7043 (I will never > understand IBM model

Re: RS/6000 7043-140 boot floppies

2019-02-18 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 2/18/19 1:55 PM, Tapley, Mark wrote: On Feb 18, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Alan Perry via cctech wrote: Is there some trick to making boot floppies for the RS/6000 7043-140 (a mid-90s PReP architecture machine)? I initially tried to install Solaris 2.5.1 on it and created the boot floppy by

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Charles Anthony via cctalk
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 2:24 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 2/18/19 4:35 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > It would be interesting if you can post the exact sizes in blocks of the > SIMH image, and the real disk you copied it to. That would help confirm my > guess

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 5:18 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Well, all I really have are CQD module which does MSCP and TMSCP > over SCSI. Do you have any SCSI tape drives? I have successfully installed RSTS/E 10.1 from install tapes on real PDP-11 hardware using an Exabyte EXB-8200 8mm

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 6:18 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 2/18/19 7:39 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > TU58, no -- that's not a file structured device on RSTS. RX33 is an > RX50 in a different physical package if I remember -- 800 block MSCP > device. That works

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/18/19 9:02 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Feb 18, 2019, at 8:18 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> On 2/18/19 7:39 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> TU58, no -- that's not a file structured device on RSTS. RX33 is an RX50 >>> in a different physical package if I

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 8:18 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2/18/19 7:39 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> >> ... >> TU58, no -- that's not a file structured device on RSTS. RX33 is an RX50 in >> a different physical package if I remember -- 800 block MSCP device. That >> works

RE: [EXTERNAL] corvus mirror

2019-02-18 Thread rar via cctalk
Are you talking about the a Corvus Hard Drive, along with the video tape backup system? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvus_Systems I have a mirror card and several Corvus Hard Drives. Cosmetically good, and probably work, but I'm not sure! Bob Roswell https://Museum.syssrc.com

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/18/19 7:39 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Feb 18, 2019, at 5:24 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> On 2/18/19 4:35 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> For the case of RSTS, small or large is not a consideration. What matters, >>> as I mentioned, is that RSTS has a file

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 5:24 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2/18/19 4:35 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> >> ... >> For the case of RSTS, small or large is not a consideration. What matters, >> as I mentioned, is that RSTS has a file system layout that is dependent on >> the

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, TeoZ via cctalk wrote: I hated using a typewriter for school reports so when I purchased a C64 in the 80's I used that for reports. The only thing an electronic word processor had over a C64 was a very nice display (monochrome) compared to a TV for the C64. I forget if the

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-18 Thread TeoZ via cctalk
Simple databases were also a killer app. I still recall a small stamp/coin shop firing up a C64 to look for inventory in the early/mid 80's. I hated using a typewriter for school reports so when I purchased a C64 in the 80's I used that for reports. The only thing an electronic word processor

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/18/19 2:31 PM, TeoZ wrote: > I passed on mint complete word processors at a recyclers ages ago > because I had no use for them. I almost picked up a huge IBM typewriter > but changed my mind. > Everybody has limited space so we try not to fill it with things way > outside of our normal

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-18 Thread TeoZ via cctalk
I passed on mint complete word processors at a recyclers ages ago because I had no use for them. I almost picked up a huge IBM typewriter but changed my mind. Everybody has limited space so we try not to fill it with things way outside of our normal collecting. If anything I regret not grabbing

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/18/19 4:35 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Feb 18, 2019, at 3:46 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> >> >> SO, to start a wrap up on this topic. I had heard of people >> copying images made on SIMH to real disks and using them. It >> now seems there are some serious strings

Re: RS/6000 7043-140 boot floppies

2019-02-18 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 2/18/19 12:20 PM, r.stricklin wrote: On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Alan Perry via cctech wrote: The 7043-140 does not appear on the list of supported systems in the Solaris 2.5.1 release notes, so, even though 2.5.1 supports PReP and the 7043-140 is a PReP machine, maybe they aren't

Re: RS/6000 7043-140 boot floppies

2019-02-18 Thread Tapley, Mark via cctalk
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Alan Perry via cctech > wrote: > > > Is there some trick to making boot floppies for the RS/6000 7043-140 (a > mid-90s PReP architecture machine)? > > I initially tried to install Solaris 2.5.1 on it and created the boot floppy > by dd'ing the image using a

Re: Q: Plotter bed repair with MonoKote?

2019-02-18 Thread David Collins via cctalk
Also very interested in the use of Monokote to repair plotter beds...any more info/experience/tips/traps would be much appreciated. David Collins HP Computer Museum > On 19 Feb 2019, at 5:37 am, Craig Ruff via cctech > wrote: > > >> On Feb 18, 2019, at 11:00 AM, dwight wrote: >> >> There

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-18 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 2/15/2019 10:22 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctech wrote: > On 2/14/2019 9:28 PM, Kevin Monceaux via cctalk wrote: >> Classic Computer Fans, >> >> I posted this to the IBM-Legacy-Hercules mailing list. I just realized it >> probably wouldn't hurt to post it here too. >> >> I'm finally in possession of

Re: RS/6000 7043-140 boot floppies

2019-02-18 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 09:49:30AM -0800, Alan Perry via cctech wrote: > > Is there some trick to making boot floppies for the RS/6000 7043-140 > (a mid-90s PReP architecture machine)? > [...] > The NetBSD boot floppy images are confusing to me. The files are too > large to fit on a 1.44M

Re: RS/6000 7043-140 boot floppies

2019-02-18 Thread Patrick Finnegan via cctalk
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 12:49 PM Alan Perry via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Is there some trick to making boot floppies for the RS/6000 7043-140 (a > mid-90s PReP architecture machine)? > > The NetBSD boot floppy images are confusing to me. The files are too > large to fit on a

Re: RS/6000 7043-140 boot floppies

2019-02-18 Thread r.stricklin via cctalk
On Feb 18, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Alan Perry via cctech wrote: > The 7043-140 does not appear on the list of supported systems in the Solaris > 2.5.1 release notes, so, even though 2.5.1 supports PReP and the 7043-140 is > a PReP machine, maybe they aren't compatible they aren't. solaris doesn't

Re: RS/6000 7043-140 boot floppies

2019-02-18 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 2/18/19 10:42 AM, Patrick Finnegan wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 12:49 PM Alan Perry via cctech mailto:cct...@classiccmp.org>> wrote: Is there some trick to making boot floppies for the RS/6000 7043-140 (a mid-90s PReP architecture machine)? The NetBSD boot floppy

RS/6000 7043-140 boot floppies

2019-02-18 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
Is there some trick to making boot floppies for the RS/6000 7043-140 (a mid-90s PReP architecture machine)? I initially tried to install Solaris 2.5.1 on it and created the boot floppy by dd'ing the image using a SPARCstation (running NetBSD). I dd'ed the image over, dd'ed it back and

Q: Plotter bed repair with MonoKote?

2019-02-18 Thread Craig Ruff via cctalk
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 11:00 AM, dwight wrote: > > There were a couple hp XY plotters that had the mylar plate delaminating. > I've reworked these with model airplane mono coat. Are you referring to MonoKote (www.monokote.com )? That looks perfect for repairing the

Re: Free: 2x DEC Alpha workstations - 164LX and XP1000

2019-02-18 Thread Tapley, Mark via cctalk
Arun, If you don’t find other homes for these systems, please let me know. I probably have more machines than I need right now, but I think I can add these to the herd. But, if you get another offer, please put that first priority. - Mark

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 4:47 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2/18/2019 3:38 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> >> ... >> Then again, I remember our college RS64 (drive for the RC11) which developed >> a bad motor bearing. ... >> > > Nice of the FE to do that. > > The Univ. of

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-18 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 2/18/2019 3:38 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > >> On Feb 18, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: >>> Well that is the thing, of course. I had that with one old IDE disk, >>> too. It made a terrible ear-piercing

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: >> Well that is the thing, of course. I had that with one old IDE disk, >> too. It made a terrible ear-piercing high whine that I associate with >> a failing disk... but it

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 3:46 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > > > SO, to start a wrap up on this topic. I had heard of people > copying images made on SIMH to real disks and using them. It > now seems there are some serious strings attached to that idea. > I know it works for

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: Well that is the thing, of course. I had that with one old IDE disk, too. It made a terrible ear-piercing high whine that I associate with a failing disk... but it passed every diagnostic I could throw at it, so I used it for non-critical stuff

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
SO, to start a wrap up on this topic. I had heard of people copying images made on SIMH to real disks and using them. It now seems there are some serious strings attached to that idea. I know it works for small disks as I have done it with RL02 and RX/Ry disks. I have one more thing to try

Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-18 Thread Kevin Monceaux via cctalk
Grant, On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 11:05:23PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > Is that by chance a 9291? Looks like a white / bage box with a grey > strip on the front with lights or buttons and a serial port and ""phone > (PSTN) network jack on the back? Checking our hardware list it

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
I'll add a postscript to my bit on Wupro disinterest. Exxon went into the WP business briefly by purchasing Vydec along with Qyx. Nobody seems to remember those either. Who collects old FAX machines, for example? FWIW, on eBay, there's an Exxon Verbex voice recognition box that seems to have

Re: Free: 2x DEC Alpha workstations - 164LX and XP1000

2019-02-18 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
For anyone that isn’t familiar with the XP1000, it’s seriously worth rescuing. It’s a Compaq system with an Alpha 21264 CPU in it. Basically it is something like a DEC PWS 433au/500au/600au. Good for both OpenVMS and Tru64. I know they made at least a 500Mhz and 667Mhz version (I have

Free: 2x DEC Alpha workstations - 164LX and XP1000

2019-02-18 Thread K. Arun via cctalk
Hello, I have a couple of Alpha workstations that were last used 5-6 years ago with some version of Tru64 on them. They haven't been turned on since, and may need some work to get running again. They're free to anyone who thinks they can use them, and can pick them up from the 78722 zip code

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/18/19 8:10 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > Of the items in > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/4Q8Jx7n36fmVczLN8 > > This photo depicts a Raytheon VT302, I did not see the keyboard in the > photo, hoping it is not lost: > >

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-18 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
True, there were large reels on a rack, most were educational films. There was a room dedicated to tube radios, most were in very rough shape aesthetically. Also a room with reel-to-reel audio decks from AKAI, Teac and other brands that looked nice. Phonographs of varying decade, a bunch of

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-18 Thread dwight via cctalk
There were a couple hp XY plotters that had the mylar plate delaminating. I've reworked these with model airplane mono coat. I'd be interested in one of these if they'd not been to far away. If you do a search, there is also a youtube video of a more extended walk through. The fellow was also a

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-18 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Of the items in https://photos.app.goo.gl/4Q8Jx7n36fmVczLN8 This photo depicts a Raytheon VT302, I did not see the keyboard in the photo, hoping it is not lost:

Re: PDP-11 disk image question

2019-02-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 17, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > > >> On Feb 16, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> ... >> First, my hardware. I have a PDP-11/93 with a CMD SCSI Module and >> a BA350 with 6 2GB hard drives. The Module is set up to present

Re: Kemners Surplus - Real time walkthrough

2019-02-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I see 4 Boxes of punch cards. All blank? > > https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN-btB2yizsHBmabHb7xtHr_zUWZlS6QENHMHbb-beU6Jf4oNqEABuPoVWamYFUtg/photo/AF1QipP1COpYtcSYKVmiBAZskOJL5yujK8d2561Fepk?key=MmhXdXRtVkhoZkNGODBleGFNeGYza2xvV1BkbjV3 > > Too bad he wants $25 a box. 25 dollars for a

Re: Speaking of sounds made by machines

2019-02-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 22:53, Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk wrote: > > Of all machines I've used, the beloved Atari 8-bit is most vocal. It > has the feature of 'i/o noise' by default. It can be disabled with a > Poke, but every kind of io has distinctive sounds and actually > represents the

Re: PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem

2019-02-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 01:43, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > Days turned into weeks, weeks into months and months into > years. It continued to occasionally make the same ghastly noises that > never should be heard coming from a hard disk but with absolutely no sign > of any errors being

RE: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks?

2019-02-18 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
I will apologise at the top as this is slightly rambling... > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Grant Taylor via > cctalk > Sent: 18 February 2019 03:46 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: IBM 3174 C 6.4 Microcode Disks? > > On 2/17/19 2:23 AM, Dave Wade wrote: > > I