Re: HP9816 PAL16L8

2019-06-10 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/10/19 8:44 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > > You can detect sequential logic in the PAL by : > > For each combination of inputs : >Read the outputs > Toggle an input (change from 0 to 1 and back again or vice versa) > Compare the outputs to what they were before -- if they

Re: HP9816 PAL16L8

2019-06-10 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 12:23 AM Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: > > > On 2019-06-08 7:14 a.m., Piero Andreini via cctalk wrote: > > desperately looking for jedec file of PAL 16L8 position U69 part # 1820-2991 > We can hope that it is all combinational logic and I can run trough all > combinations

Re: HP9816 PAL16L8

2019-06-10 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2019-06-08 7:14 a.m., Piero Andreini via cctalk wrote: desperately looking for jedec file of PAL 16L8 position U69 part # 1820-2991 I pulled the CPU board out of my HP9816 and was happy to see that the component in question is in a socket however there is a problem.  The component in

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-10 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 01:43:40PM +0200, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 at 20:06, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > > > I don't think that my Fossil (Palm-OS WATCH) does IRDA. > > I should find somebody who will pay me money for such a piece of > > crap^H^H^H^H NEAT

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> The disclaimer at the bottom of the page is good for a laugh, and could be a > hint. > > http://www.gopherprotocol.com That is pretty boilerplate legal, actually. -- Will

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2019-Jun-10, at 11:11 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > I wouldn’t invest in an IoT buzzword company whose web page admits that the > products they are talking about don’t exist yet, headed by a non-engineer, > even without the fishy international money laundering smell. It’s interesting

RE: Old soaftware and documentation

2019-06-10 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
> From: Cindy Croxton > I have a large qty to donate Roughly what does it go to - old PC's; Windows boxes; etc? Noel DOS/early Windows/Tandy for the most part A small amount of SCO and other odd Unix type stuff. Cindy --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast

Re: Old soaftware and documentation

2019-06-10 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Cindy Croxton > I have a large qty to donate Roughly what does it go to - old PC's; Windows boxes; etc? Noel

Re: Old soaftware and documentation

2019-06-10 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 6/10/19 1:04 PM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: I have a large qty to donate to a vintage computer group. I do not want to ship. Someone in Austin or San Antonio area want to come and get it? I would like it gone before this Saturday. How large is large? Are we talking fills a desk

June 22

2019-06-10 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
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Old soaftware and documentation

2019-06-10 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
I have a large qty to donate to a vintage computer group. I do not want to ship. Someone in Austin or San Antonio area want to come and get it? I would like it gone before this Saturday. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk
William Donzelli via cctalk writes: > It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a > LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out > of the Ukraine. I was going to shy away from those thoughts, but ... * a "new" startup, since 2009? * actual

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 07:56:29AM -0700, geneb via cctalk wrote: > Get a load of this: > http://www.gopherprotocol.com > > I pointed them to RFC 1436 in case they haven't been paying attention. The lousy page does not open in any of four browsers I tried (lynx, w3m, dillo, even firefox).

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
I wouldn’t invest in an IoT buzzword company whose web page admits that the products they are talking about don’t exist yet, headed by a non-engineer, even without the fishy international money laundering smell. It’s interesting how quickly you ferreted that out, William. I don’t have a clue

Re: HP9816 PAL16L8 (a...@alanlee.org)

2019-06-10 Thread Piero Andreini via cctalk
Yes it’s true but my knowledge is not enough to do it. Maybe you would like to take a look at schematic? http://www.hpmuseum.net/capcha/freecap_wrap.php?r=4020 The output signal /HPIBGr from pin 18 of the PAL (sheet 17) is stuck at 3

Re: HP9816 PAL16L8 (a...@alanlee.org)

2019-06-10 Thread Piero Andreini via cctalk
> L series are combinatorial only. You (or someone who has a working one) > should be able to figure out a logic map by either running through all > the input permutation or putting it in a reader that will do the same > (vs reading the fuse data). > > -Alan > > Good luck. unfortunately I

Re: HP9816 PAL16L8 (a...@alanlee.org)

2019-06-10 Thread dwight via cctalk
Again, is it just an address decoder or something more complicated. One can often determine the logic by looking at a schematic and knowing what it needs to do. Dwight From: cctech on behalf of Piero Andreini via cctech Sent: Monday, June 10, 2019 7:58 AM To:

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread Eric Christopherson via cctalk
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 11:44 AM William Donzelli via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them... > > Did the page not smell fishy to you? > > -- > Will > It looked/sounded like typical IoT marketing speak to me :) > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Oh, it is a legit company - the SEC filings could not faked on the government website. I went down a quick rabbit hole, and I saw things about the HQ being in Kiev, 1000 to 1 stock splits, and so forth. No one would ever invest in that company unless they specifically wanted weird things to

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them... Did the page not smell fishy to you? No more so than normal. They've got at least one "live" trademark going: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc=4802:o29p87.2.1 The dead

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Well, you said you pointed out the RFC to them... Did the page not smell fishy to you? -- Will On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:14 PM geneb via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: > > > It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a > > LOT of shady

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out of the Ukraine. Interesting. I still don't see how I "fell" for something. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out of the Ukraine. -- Will On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:01 PM geneb via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: > > > Wow, you fell

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019, William Donzelli wrote: Wow, you fell hard... Eh? (don't top post!) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Wow, you fell hard... -- Will On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:56 AM geneb via cctalk wrote: > > Get a load of this: > http://www.gopherprotocol.com > > I pointed them to RFC 1436 in case they haven't been paying attention. > > I eagerly await their next protocols, IPX and TCP/IP! > > g. > > > -- >

Re: Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On June 10, 2019 at 9:56 AM geneb via cctalk wrote: > > > Get a load of this: > http://www.gopherprotocol.com > For me, the funniest part is the image of a PCB full of 16 pin 74LS chips in DIP packages -- that should REALLY change how people use "mobile" technology Will

Kids these days...

2019-06-10 Thread geneb via cctalk
Get a load of this: http://www.gopherprotocol.com I pointed them to RFC 1436 in case they haven't been paying attention. I eagerly await their next protocols, IPX and TCP/IP! g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 15:51, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > > Adding pockets ruins the look, or something. Yup. They're going beyond the realm of their own previous products into such severe minimalism it's becoming inconvenient. I want an LED to tell me my charge/power status, message

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 at 15:45, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > > So long as said companies don't just make yet another Android device based on > a > cheap-and-nasty Mediatek SOC which requires proprietary Android-only drivers > to > work well, and then make misleading claims about Linux

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-10 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 01:58:53PM +0200, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: [...] > Agreed again. My old Mac mini had a power LED. It pulsed softly when asleep. > The iMac that has replaced it has nothing. I can't tell if it is on, > off, asleep or what. > The cost saving of this change must be too

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-10 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 01:57:34PM +0200, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: [...] > I just wish a few more companies thought like Planet Computers and tried to > make devices for rich niches, rather than the cheap mass market... > https://planetcom.squarespace.com/ So long as said companies don't

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 at 13:49, Stefan Skoglund wrote: > > I also hate my samsung a5 mobile - the stupid thing > doesnt have something which the two ericsson mobiles i used before (and > a nokia and i believe a samsung to) had. > > Namely a small led which was on all the time. A great thing when >

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 9 Jun 2019 at 13:45, Stefan Skoglund wrote: > > The economist wrote about this ( > https://www.economist.com/briefing/2019/06/08/how-the-pursuit-of-leisure-drives-internet-use > ) > > The current situation is this: > it is much more important for Apple and Samsung to sell overpriced >

Re: SGI IRIX 6.5 Screen Savers (emulated Indy w/ 24-bit XL graphics) running in MAME

2019-06-10 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
That is impressive! Is it close to real time we are seeing? /P On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 10:38:35AM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > pretty cool.. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6E0_qgfGGQ >

VCF Midwest: Hotel Reservations Open

2019-06-10 Thread Jason T via cctalk
After long delay, we can finally share the location of this year's show! Room registration is open and awaiting your reservation. We've got a new venue this year and that means a new table layout, which we're hard at work on and will be posted Real Soon Now. Then we can start signing up