Re: [TUHS] Old Unix books

2019-10-07 Thread Jim Capp via cctalk
Seth, If the 3B2 manuals are in a 3-ring binder, or are in condition to be scanned with a page feed scanner, I'll be happy to scan them and send you a copy. Cheers, Jim From: "Seth J. Morabito" To: da...@kdbarto.org Cc: "Jim Capp" , "The Eunuchs Hysterical Society" , "General Disc

Re: [TUHS] Old Unix books

2019-10-07 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 10/7/19 3:29 PM, Seth Morabito via cctalk wrote: I have access to a book scanner here in Seattle (full double page non-destructive scanning). It's certainly more work than sheet-feed scanning, but since it does no harm to the original material, it's worth it. Hum I wonder if it would

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 10/07/2019 12:26 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I hear you--I've been on Linux for day-to-day stuff for quite a few years, but keep a copy of XP on VirtualBox just in case. Some of the older systems that I have legacy peripherals in also require Windows, but it's all old versions. I rece

Re: [TUHS] Old Unix books

2019-10-07 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, David wrote: If the manual is in a 3 ring binder, I'd be happy to scan it for you folks. I've got an Epson DS-770 duplexing scanner that does an excellent job. I've scanned a pile of docs with it at 600dpi, and it's performed flawlessly. g. These are all standard bou

Re: [TUHS] Old Unix books

2019-10-07 Thread Seth Morabito via cctalk
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, at 2:20 PM, David via cctalk wrote: > > These are all standard bound books, so I’m unsure about how they would > get scanned in the best possible way without destroying them. > That shouldn't be an impediment. I have access to a book scanner here in Seattle (full double pa

Re: [TUHS] Old Unix books

2019-10-07 Thread David via cctalk
> On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:20 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Seth J. Morabito via cctalk wrote: > >> >> David writes: >> >>> These went exceptionally fast. >>> >>> Timing of the first response was Jim Capp by about 1 minute. So if Jim >>> will send me his physical address

Re: [TUHS] Old Unix books

2019-10-07 Thread David via cctalk
I’ll leave it to Jim to see about scanning it (?bitsavers?). I don’t have the equipment or the bandwidth to do it. David > On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Seth J. Morabito wrote: > > > David writes: > >> These went exceptionally fast. >> >> Timing of the first response was Jim Capp by

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Richard Pope via cctalk
Hello all, The problem as I see it are all of the sheep that buy pre-configured boxes from the likes of Dell and other such providers. They don't get the OS disc. They only receive restore discs. Most of these users only know how to turn on the power and operate the keyboard and/or mouse.

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread alan--- via cctalk
On 2019-10-07 08:49, corey cohen via cctalk wrote: So for example I own a DVD of raiders of the lost ark, I’m allowed to make a backup for myself. Just beware I don't believe there has been a DMCA challenge that validates your claim yet. Fair-use is always subjective. And truth often dro

RE: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Ali via cctalk
> "In 2013, federal authorities intercepted shipments of 28,000 restore > discs that Lundgren had manufactured in China and sent to his sales > partner in Florida. The discs had labels nearly identical to the discs > provided by Dell for its computers and had the Windows and Dell logos. > “If I had

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/7/19 8:28 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: > Its been a while but same game and I'm not a player. > > I just don't run windows. I jumped that ship back in 06 when > burned on NT. Since then its Linux. If you play in the swamp > of M$ then your run all the risks and costs. Its just not good

Re: [TUHS] Old Unix books

2019-10-07 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019, Seth J. Morabito via cctalk wrote: David writes: These went exceptionally fast. Timing of the first response was Jim Capp by about 1 minute. So if Jim will send me his physical address off list, I’ll coordinate with him in shipping them. All (and especially Jim and Dav

Re: [TUHS] Old Unix books

2019-10-07 Thread Seth J. Morabito via cctalk
David writes: > These went exceptionally fast. > > Timing of the first response was Jim Capp by about 1 minute. So if Jim > will send me his physical address off list, I’ll coordinate with him > in shipping them. All (and especially Jim and David!) I'm 100% fine with Jim getting these manuals

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Christian Liendo via cctalk
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 11:58 AM Ali wrote: > In none of the stories I have read, and I admit I haven't been following this > closely, there has been no mention of labels being copied (i.e. logos, > graphics, etc.). If he did do this then yes he screwed himself royally. > > -Ali > https://mashab

Re: Tandem Minicomputers

2019-10-07 Thread Don Fanning via cctalk
I worked at Canyon Park Data Center (one of Microsoft's original Data Centers in Puget Sound) and they had just as you walked into the data center floor a Unisys rack that had like 64 individual SBC to work in unison with WinNT Clustering. It was configured like a Cray where you had a maintenance

RE: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Ali via cctalk
> Ugh this is old and has nothing to do with what we do > > Also is has nothing to do with what anyone is discussing. > > The guy make exact copies of restore CDs with Dell and Microsoft > labels, so they were counterfeit. In none of the stories I have read, and I admit I haven't been followin

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Christian Liendo via cctalk
Ugh this is old and has nothing to do with what we do Also is has nothing to do with what anyone is discussing. The guy make exact copies of restore CDs with Dell and Microsoft labels, so they were counterfeit.

Re: Able document at VCF Midwest

2019-10-07 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Do we know where the docs were before they hit the Free Pile? I took > home a few boxes of Will D's DECdocs, which I can double-check to make > sure yours didn't intermix. Otherwise, stuff flew off the Pile as fast > as it was placed there. This title does not ring a bell with me - I likely wou

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread allison via cctalk
Its been a while but same game and I'm not a player. I just don't run windows. I jumped that ship back in 06 when burned on NT. Since then its Linux. If you play in the swamp of M$ then your run all the risks and costs. Its just not good enough to be worth the pain. Any new machine I might bu

RE: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
original license holder being the purchaser. If he had given the discs away with a refurbished system, even if he worked the price into the system price, with a license I think he would have been fine. US Customs looks for items with trademarks of certain protected brands and then you get in t

RE: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Ali via cctalk
> I think what screwed the guy selling the 25 cent computer disks is that > Microsoft, according to the article ,sells $25 replacement restore > disks. So technically he is counterfeiting a current Microsoft > product, the physical restore disk they sell. I am not sure about the veracity of tha

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread John Many Jars via cctalk
I'm glad retirement is now only 15 years away... no make that 17, soon to be 20? On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 16:13, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: > I'm fairly sure that the (near) future will be OSaaS, and you will be > paying monthly for your Windows Vi... er... OS. Not just your office > productivity

RE: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread jwest--- via cctalk
I'm fairly sure that the (near) future will be OSaaS, and you will be paying monthly for your Windows Vi... er... OS. Not just your office productivity and LOB software.

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
downloaded for free is meaningless to the actual case. Not saying I agree with the law they got him on as there should be some exceptions but facts are the facts. Btw. This was the first version of the story I read that mentioned that Microsoft sold replacement restore disks to computer refur

Re: Able document at VCF Midwest

2019-10-07 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Jason T > didn't know you were at the show. Thanks for coming out! I wasn't! :-) This is via Paul A, who was there. I don't recall where they were before they got free-piled (he told me who it was who had it, but I had no particular reason to store those bits in my memory).

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread corey cohen via cctalk
Ok the original topic. I think what screwed the guy selling the 25 cent computer disks is that Microsoft, according to the article ,sells $25 replacement restore disks. So technically he is counterfeiting a current Microsoft product, the physical restore disk they sell. The whole argument t

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Doug Jackson via cctalk
It is. He ended up serving 15 months in prison for making rescue disks that were based on downloadable software that required licence keys that the PCs that he refurbished already had. It's a complex.case and the judge didn't understand the actual value of the media which was zero. Sadly technic

Fw: [rescue] Very Last Chance - E6000 and/or parts

2019-10-07 Thread Arno Kletzander via cctalk
Hi everybody, as I don't recall seeing this offer around here (may be just rusty memory on my side however...), I thought I'd forward this for good measure. (I'm trying a second time, to cctalk, now as it seems I fell out of the classiccmp universe somewhere around 2016-17. Sorry if this appear

Fw: [rescue] Very Last Chance - E6000 and/or parts

2019-10-07 Thread Arno Kletzander via cctalk
Hi everybody, as I don't recall seeing this offer around here (may be just rusty memory on my side however...), I thought I'd forward this for good measure. I'm considering making the 2k mi trip together with my Dad but would do so only as a last resort to save the machine from being scrapped.

Re: [TUHS] Old Unix books

2019-10-07 Thread David via cctalk
These went exceptionally fast. Timing of the first response was Jim Capp by about 1 minute. So if Jim will send me his physical address off list, I’ll coordinate with him in shipping them. David > On Oct 7, 2019, at 6:05 AM, Jim Capp wrote: > > David, > > I’m interested and will giv

Old UNIX Books

2019-10-07 Thread David via cctalk
I’ve got a few books I’ve just pulled off the shelf and no longer want/need. I’m hoping someone will give them a good home. UNIX System Labs Inc UNIX(r) System V Release 4 Programmers Guide: System Services and Application Packaging Tools Device Driver Interface/Driver-Kernel Inter

RE: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 05:51 AM 10/7/2019, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: >Must be the USA PC World. In the UK they would have tried to sell you an >extended warranty as well which is really just an insurance policy >.. but the question is why PC World. Don't US universities have student >discount stores? Universi

RE: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Must be the USA PC World. In the UK they would have tried to sell you an extended warranty as well which is really just an insurance policy .. but the question is why PC World. Don't US universities have student discount stores? Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of

RE: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Note:- This storey is a year old... Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Jeffrey S. Worley > via cctalk > Sent: 07 October 2019 04:24 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Nuke Redmond! > > A fellow who was putting the air in "Microsoft Tire" (c) is going to prison. >

Re: Nuke Redmond!

2019-10-07 Thread John Many Jars via cctalk
Ha. I was recently in PC World (gross) buying my son a laptop for University. They tried to sell him (me) a whole load of crap he didn't need. They tried to sell me an Office 365 subscription that he gets for free from the Uni. They tried to sell me A/V software you can get free. They tried to