Re: Estate sale

2019-10-29 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
I know 8 items are getting harder to find, but I didn't know they were that hard to find. I think I still have a few of each kind around here. On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:41 PM Ethan Dicks via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 9:15 PM Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk >

Re: Estate sale

2019-10-29 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 9:15 PM Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk wrote: > This link was posted on an Atari forum. I noticed a PDP 8 faceplate, a > UNIVAC keyboard, and some other seriously retro parts. Might want to > > Hit this link: > >

Re: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Hi Paul! Pleasure to meet you. What kinds of things do you have? What I would love to do is get the latest versions of RSX11/M+ up and running. I have compiler licenses for Fortran77 and Cobol81, but only 11/M 4.1 and 4.0 media on RL02/01 packs. C On 10/29/2019 10:16 PM, Paul Anderson via

Re: Estate sale -- Univac Terminal Keyboard

2019-10-29 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
Someone really wanted a keyboard for a Univac Terminal in the last year, year and a half.  Added to subject line to maybe attract attention of who was searching. Someone in Europe though, IIRC? thanks Jim On 10/29/2019 7:15 PM, Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk wrote: This link was posted on an

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 4:38 PM Rich Alderson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > From: Liam Proven > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 10:01 AM > > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 17:32, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > > wrote: > > >> 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread allison via cctalk
On 10/29/19 8:50 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. via cctalk wrote: > We celebrated the 40th anniversary of the Internet less than 2 years > ago: > >> https://computerhistory.org/blog/born-in-a-van-happy-40th-birthday-to-the-internet/ > > The ARPAnet was a WAN (wide area network) and not an Internet, but

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On 10/29/19 5:50 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. via cctalk wrote: The ARPAnet was a WAN (wide area network) and not an Internet, but it was one of the three networks involved in that first test on November 22, 1977 (after a two network test the previous year). The option to use TCP/IP in addition to

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread allison via cctalk
On 10/29/19 8:21 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >>> The first "internet" packet was certainly a significant event. > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Paul Koning wrote: >> Indeed.  So "remote communication between heterogeneous computers" >> would probably be a good description. > > not so sure, . . . I

Re: Estate sale

2019-10-29 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
Any hints about where in the world this is? mcl

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/29/19 5:50 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. via cctalk wrote: > The ARPAnet was a WAN (wide area network) and not an Internet, but it > was one of the three networks involved in that first test on November > 22, 1977 (after a two network test the previous year). The option to use > TCP/IP in

Re: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread allison via cctalk
On 10/29/19 8:37 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: >> I assume your building up a Qbus PDP-11. > > Yup. They're easier to get going for starters and since I got rid of the > 11/44 the fastest system I've got. I like them for the many flavors of CPU and and possible configurations. I have a few

Re: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
Hi Chris, I have a lot of the parts you might need. Please feel free to contact me off list Thanks, Paul On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 11:28 AM Chris Zach via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi all! > > Re-subscribing to this list after a 20+ year "vacation" while raising > kids. I was

Estate sale

2019-10-29 Thread Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk
This link was posted on an Atari forum. I noticed a PDP 8 faceplate, a UNIVAC keyboard, and some other seriously retro parts. Might want to Hit this link:

Re: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Ok, first hurdle is down. In reading the RQDX3 Controller Module Users Guide it shows that for a BA23 the 50 pin cable goes down under the Q bus chassis then loops straight up into the RQDX3. Which is impossible to do with a modern (hee hee!) 50 pin SCSI ribbon cable as the cable keys are set

Re: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Oh the 9058 is the "Q Bus" card with the 50 pin breakout to 34 pin and 20 pin lines for the various drives. That's not the RQDX3, and I don't need that since I have the BA23 with a bulkhead connector. And yes, I do remember nothing could be after a RQDX1 or 2 so they had to be in the last

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr. via cctalk
We celebrated the 40th anniversary of the Internet less than 2 years ago: > https://computerhistory.org/blog/born-in-a-van-happy-40th-birthday-to-the-internet/ The ARPAnet was a WAN (wide area network) and not an Internet, but it was one of the three networks involved in that first test on

Re: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Oh yes. If you could drop David an email with my email I'd appreciate it. C On 10/29/2019 2:50 PM, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote: Chris Zach wrote: Maryland I'm in Maryland, but not much into dec. You may remember David Gesswein, he's here in MD as well. The MARCH group is

Re: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I assume your building up a Qbus PDP-11. Yup. They're easier to get going for starters and since I got rid of the 11/44 the fastest system I've got. To go from RQDX3 to any drive you need a distrbution panel as used in BA23 or M9058 distribution board usually used in BA123. Yup, got one

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
The first "internet" packet was certainly a significant event. On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Paul Koning wrote: Indeed. So "remote communication between heterogeneous computers" would probably be a good description. not so sure, . . . I think that there had been others. BUT, first with the IP

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 29, 2019, at 3:40 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > >> ... > > The first "internet" packet was certainly a significant event. Indeed. So "remote communication between heterogeneous computers" would probably be a good description. > But, calling it "The first inter-computer

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/29/19 4:19 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > None of the objections to "first inter computer communication" should > diminish the importance of the "first packet of the internet".  It was > surely a moment of rejoicing when it finally worked. I suspect that the first inter-computer

RE: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Maybe you've got a digit wrong? On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote: 500 years ago? A pair of abaci (or abacuses?) linked with strings? It has been said that when more digits were needed, that two abaci were put together, . . . "a digit wrong" could also mean 60 or 70

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
The first inter-computer communication happened 50 years ago today. L. Kleinrock part of that historic moment, said, and I paraphrase here, ARPANET was the instrument that was to enable computers to talk to each other remotely. He sent ~@~\LO~@~] because the system crashed(how surprising was

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/29/19 12:11 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > The historic event was comms between heterogenous computers over a > standardised protocol (IP, I think So, more properly--50 years of IP? --Chuck

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread dwight via cctalk
Until recently, a computer was a person that did calculations. I suspect that if they we smart enough to do the calculations they were smart enough to talk to each other. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of ED SHARPE via cctalk Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/29/19 11:39 AM, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > > New to this list, are you? > EVERYONE knows that Steve Jobs invented the microcomputer and Nikola Tesla invented alternating current. --Chuck

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/29/19 11:53 AM, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote: > Chuck Guzis wrote >> 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it was >> a standard option in most vendors' catalogs. >> >> Maybe you've got a digit wrong? > > 500 years ago? A pair of abaci (or abacuses?) linked

Re: [cctalk] First transistors

2019-10-29 Thread Gregory Beat via cctalk
Jack Ward would be happy to include in the museum collection. http://semiconductormuseum.com/Museum_Index.htm Helped Jack over a decade ago, to document the usage of transistors in Explorer I. He did oral history interview with Dr. George Ludwig before he passed in 2013.

RE: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
From: Liam Proven Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 10:01 AM > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 17:32, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: >> 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it was >> a standard option in most vendors' catalogs. >> Maybe you've got a digit wrong? > Tim

Re: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread allison via cctalk
On 10/29/19 2:13 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > On 29/10/2019 16:28, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: >> The real problem is I'm trying to put an RQDX3 in there instead of the >> ESDI controller so I can boot off RX50's. And I have no idea which way >> all the various ribbon cables are supposed

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
I will have to see if our  old next  boots!  -Ed# In a message dated 10/29/2019 10:01:21 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: Tim Berners-Lee says it's the 50th anniversary of the first internet packets. I believe him more than pretty much anyone. It's also in multiple

RE: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
Chuck Guzis wrote > 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it was > a standard option in most vendors' catalogs. > > Maybe you've got a digit wrong? 500 years ago? A pair of abaci (or abacuses?) linked with strings? -- This email has been checked for viruses by

RE: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
Chris Zach wrote: > Maryland I'm in Maryland, but not much into dec. You may remember David Gesswein, he's here in MD as well. The MARCH group is technically in New Jersey, but most of us down here belong to that as well. Bill S. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast

Re: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 29/10/2019 16:28, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: The real problem is I'm trying to put an RQDX3 in there instead of the ESDI controller so I can boot off RX50's. And I have no idea which way all the various ribbon cables are supposed to go. Will any 50 pin cable work between the RQDX3 and the

Re: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Maryland On October 29, 2019 1:41:27 PM EDT, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: >On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:28 PM Chris Zach via cctalk < >cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> Re-subscribing to this list after a 20+ year "vacation" while raising >> kids. I was pretty active in the Dec

RE: Original DEC logo in PostScript

2019-10-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
I know next to nothing about PostScript and fonts, is it possible to convert this to a font that can be installed on Windows? I found a site that says it converts it (convertio.co), but I am suspicious of free sites like that. Regards Rob > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf

Re: Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:28 PM Chris Zach via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hi all! > > Re-subscribing to this list after a 20+ year "vacation" while raising > kids. I was pretty active in the Dec pdp10, pdp11, and pdp8 communities > back in the 80's and managed to acquire a lot of

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Nemo via cctalk
On 29/10/2019, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote (in part): > The first inter-computer communication happened 50 years ago today. L. > Kleinrock part of that historic moment, said, and I paraphrase here, > ARPANET was the instrument that was to enable computers to talk to each > other remotely.

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 17:32, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it was > a standard option in most vendors' catalogs. > > Maybe you've got a digit wrong? Tim Berners-Lee says it's the 50th anniversary of the first internet

Re: IBM 1500 [was RE: Vintage Computer Warehouse Liquidation]

2019-10-29 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/28/19 12:14 PM, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > The 1500 I worked with at the University of Texas School of Education was > based > on an 1800 (which is of course the same architecture as the 1130, but in > highboy > industrial cabinetry rather than a desk. Coursewriter II and APL\1500

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/29/19 6:15 AM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > The first inter-computer communication happened 50 years ago today. L. > Kleinrock part of that historic moment, said, and I paraphrase here, > ARPANET was the instrument that was to enable computers to talk to each > other remotely. He

Introduction and need help bringing some pdp11's back

2019-10-29 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Hi all! Re-subscribing to this list after a 20+ year "vacation" while raising kids. I was pretty active in the Dec pdp10, pdp11, and pdp8 communities back in the 80's and managed to acquire a lot of "stuff". Now that I have some time and space again I'm looking back into the pile of "high

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:21 AM William Donzelli via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > You may want to reword that statement ("first inter-computer > > communication"). The SAGE Direction Center computers were talking to each > > other (cross-tell) in 1958, via Bell 101 modems. > >

Re: And yet another batch of IBM big iron one Ebay Germany..

2019-10-29 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 10/29/2019 09:45 AM, jos via cctalk wrote: an IBM 4331 for 1000 Euro b.i.n. seems OK to me, if I was in that sort of thing ! See https://www.ebay.de/itm/IBM-grosrechner/184010116585 and his other offerings... WOW, this is some amazing stuff he has! Jon

And yet another batch of IBM big iron one Ebay Germany..

2019-10-29 Thread jos via cctalk
an IBM 4331 for 1000 Euro b.i.n. seems OK to me, if I was in that sort of thing ! See  https://www.ebay.de/itm/IBM-grosrechner/184010116585 and his other offerings... Jos

Re: IBM 1500 [was RE: Vintage Computer Warehouse Liquidation]

2019-10-29 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> The 1500 I worked with at the University of Texas School of Education was > based > on an 1800 (which is of course the same architecture as the 1130, but in > highboy > industrial cabinetry rather than a desk. Coursewriter II and APL\1500 for the > educational software, FORTRAN II and

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> You may want to reword that statement ("first inter-computer > communication"). The SAGE Direction Center computers were talking to each > other (cross-tell) in 1958, via Bell 101 modems. "First" is a dangerous word, isn't it? -- Will

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Mike Loewen via cctalk
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: The first inter-computer communication happened 50 years ago today. L. Kleinrock part of that historic moment, said, and I paraphrase here, ARPANET was the instrument that was to enable computers to talk to each other remotely. He sent

50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
The first inter-computer communication happened 50 years ago today. L. Kleinrock part of that historic moment, said, and I paraphrase here, ARPANET was the instrument that was to enable computers to talk to each other remotely. He sent “LO” because the system crashed(how surprising was that!)

IBM 1500 [was RE: Vintage Computer Warehouse Liquidation]

2019-10-29 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
From: William Donzelli Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 6:45 PM > PICTURES! PICTURES! PICTURES! >> I have been unable to find anything about the 4505 display station. Does >> anyone know any details about this item? It resembles an IBM 2260, but the >> keyboard is not built-in, as in the 2260.