Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 8/21/20 1:49 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: How many here think that 2010 Macbook Pros running Windows are "CLASSIC"? Certainly sympathize with the problems, but if 4MHz processor and bumping the RAM up to 64K doesn't work, then perhaps a "CURRENT MODEL Macintosh" group (there might be

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Aug 21, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > How many here think that 2010 Macbook Pros running Windows are "CLASSIC"? > > Certainly sympathize with the problems, but if 4MHz processor and bumping the > RAM up to 64K doesn't work, then perhaps a "CURRENT MODEL Macintosh"

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
How many here think that 2010 Macbook Pros running Windows are "CLASSIC"? Certainly sympathize with the problems, but if 4MHz processor and bumping the RAM up to 64K doesn't work, then perhaps a "CURRENT MODEL Macintosh" group (there might be some on Facebook) might be a more productive

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread Tapley, Mark B. via cctalk
My 2011 has a new battery as of this spring. *Everything* worked, including a several-hour battery life, but the swelling of the battery made it hard to click the trackpad. That is indeed worth a check. Tom’s suggestion is a good one. - Mark

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
NO excessive fan noise. I had the back off while changing disks and were pretty clean. Yes.. I could add temp monitoring to see if they are being throttled. Thermal paste can get hard and stop conducting heat. Also, the heatpipes can fail and quit moving the heat from the processor or GPU

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread George Rachor via cctalk
Battery was replaced in the 15 inch last year… On original battery in the 17…. George > On Aug 21, 2020, at 6:24 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk > wrote: > > Hi Fred, > > I am curious how your batteries are doing in those two MacBook Pros. Are > they still original? If yes, is there any swelling

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
Hi Fred, I am curious how your batteries are doing in those two MacBook Pros. Are they still original? If yes, is there any swelling noticeable and any weirdness with the touch pad? Thanks Tom Hunter On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 7:16 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > There must be a better

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
There must be a better resource than this list for something THAT obsolete. On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, George Rachor via cctalk wrote: I have 2 2010 macbook pro's. Each have 8GB of Ram and both have a 2 TB hybrid seagate hard drives. Running Windows via Parallels. 15 inch system have reasonable

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread George Rachor via cctalk
NO excessive fan noise. I had the back off while changing disks and were pretty clean. Yes.. I could add temp monitoring to see if they are being throttled. George > On Aug 20, 2020, at 11:11 PM, Raymond Wiker wrote: > > It may be good idea to check the CPU temperature and the airflow

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread George Rachor via cctalk
I got the 17” just before Ecobinary moved from the Beaverton location. I have heard they are no more. They both have ESET internet security but will run Malware bytes in the morning. George > On Aug 20, 2020, at 10:58 PM, Zane Healy wrote: > > Do you have “Tech Tool Pro”, or anything like

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread George Rachor via cctalk
Oh ya.. Both are running the current version of ESET Internet security for what that is worth. No problems detected with full scans. George > On Aug 20, 2020, at 10:50 PM, George Rachor wrote: > > I’ll check in the morning but believe the 2 machines are identical except for > screen size.

Re: ITS version 671 from 1971 found

2020-08-21 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Warner Losh wrote: >> A rather complete full dump of the MIT-AI PDP-10 from 1971 has been >> found. > > Where? How? Will it be made available? Where: In the "ToTS" archives, see https://archivesspace.mit.edu/repositories/2/resources/1265 How: MIT has given me access to the archives, for research

Re: ITS version 671 from 1971 found

2020-08-21 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 12:21 AM Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > From the incompatible department of classic computement: A rather > complete full dump of the MIT-AI PDP-10 from 1971 has been found. It > includes full source code and documentation for the system,

ITS version 671 from 1971 found

2020-08-21 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
>From the incompatible department of classic computement: A rather complete full dump of the MIT-AI PDP-10 from 1971 has been found. It includes full source code and documentation for the system, including ITS version 671, DDT, TECO, MIDAS, (MAC)LISP, CHESS (MacHack), MUDDLE, LOGO, MACSYMA, etc.

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread Raymond Wiker via cctalk
It may be good idea to check the CPU temperature and the airflow inside the computer - dust buildup may reduce airflow and cooling, which in turn may cause CPU throttling. > On 21 Aug 2020, at 07:50, George Rachor via cctalk > wrote: > > I’ll check in the morning but believe the 2 machines

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

2020-08-21 Thread George Rachor via cctalk
I’ll check in the morning but believe the 2 machines are identical except for screen size. I’ll also check for the same version of Parallels. I assume since these are 2010 machines I could upgrade the Parallels to current. They are both running High Sierra. On startup the 17” . Takes a very