Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread shadoooo via cctalk
dear all, thanks for the useful informations! So now a question comes to mind... what is the best utility for Linux to be used to read and archive tapes? Thanks Andrea

Re: Computer History

2020-09-17 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Murray McCullough wrote: > We in the classic computer community need to know the history of our > hobby I for bigger iron history, I suggest "Dream Machine" by Waldrop. It's not just about Licklider, though his is a very interesting story by itself.

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Jeff Woolsey via cctalk
> On 17/09/2020 07:38, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: > >/The docs for SIMH .TAP files are here:- > >/>//>/http://simh.trailing-edge.com/docs/simh_magtape.pdf />//>/be careful > >as there are also non-SIMH .tap formats />//>/In the IBM Mainframe emulation > >world there is also .AWS, an IBM

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Jeff Woolsey via cctalk
> Acoustically, the best tapes were the short-record "stranger" tapes. > All sorts of interesting noise. I could tell from across the room when > someone was running the tape section of the Navy audit tests for COBOL > just by the sounds. > MALET was also pretty good, reading and writing a bunch

Re: Exploring early GUIs

2020-09-17 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
would early gui include hmi systems On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 9:19 PM Michael Kerpan via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering: > how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I > know that there

Exploring early GUIs

2020-09-17 Thread Michael Kerpan via cctalk
Something in another recent thread about LISP machines got me wondering: how many early graphical systems are well emulated (or emulated at all)? I know that there are more or less functional emulations of Alto, Star, and Lisa out there, but what about the various LISP machines or the early

Re: Computer History

2020-09-17 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
fix your links. CC yourself and see if you can click on them. On Thu, 17 Sep 2020, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Which links? You mean the "virus-free" thing at the bottom? That's just .signature spam. I don't know why people put that in, especially since a declaration in a piece of mail

Re: Computer History

2020-09-17 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
The links are to his anti virus pages, or email client filtered thru there.  Noting to see here, move along. Seriously, you need to dig out the link, trim all the crap after the ampersand, so that we don't inherit a bunch of tracking cookie crumbs, test it and forward. Thanks, would love

Re: Computer History

2020-09-17 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 17, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Randy Dawson via cctalk > wrote: > > fix your links. CC yourself and see if you can click on them. Which links? You mean the "virus-free" thing at the bottom? That's just .signature spam. I don't know why people put that in, especially since a

Re: Computer History

2020-09-17 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
+1 On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 8:25 PM Murray McCullough via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I've recently reread *Fire In The Valley, Ed. 1,2 &3.* They are the > seminal, authoritative & comprehensive sources for the history of the > microcomputer. We in the classic computer community need

Re: Computer History

2020-09-17 Thread Randy Dawson via cctalk
fix your links. CC yourself and see if you can click on them. From: cctalk on behalf of Murray McCullough via cctalk Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 5:25 PM To: cctalk Subject: Computer History I've recently reread *Fire In The Valley, Ed. 1,2 &3.* They

Computer History

2020-09-17 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
I've recently reread *Fire In The Valley, Ed. 1,2 &3.* They are the seminal, authoritative & comprehensive sources for the history of the microcomputer. We in the classic computer community need to know the history of our hobby to keep it vital and relevant to today's society. More than ever we

Re: Notes on HP3000 WCS Microcode, Series 37 on ebay in Germany

2020-09-17 Thread Frank McConnell via cctalk
On Sep 16, 2020, at 13:21, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 8:19, Lee Courtney via cctech wrote: > >> Al - it would be a Very Good Thing to get those APL ROMS dumped when >> possible. > > It would be good as well to dump the Series III main instruction

Re: Notes on HP3000 WCS Microcode, Series 37 on ebay in Germany

2020-09-17 Thread Frank McConnell via cctalk
On Sep 16, 2020, at 5:30, Rodney Brown via cctalk wrote: > > HP 3000 Series 37 on ebay in Germany (7954A, 9144AR, 30457A, 700/92 (German > keyboard)) > > https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HP-3000-Series-37-Computer-System-RETRO-SELTEN-RARE-ca-1985-1987/283988656899 > > Thanks to David Collins at the

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 17, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 9/17/20 8:56 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > >> This is not necessarily true. Many systems can handle "VBS" (Variable >> Block Sequential) tape files. >> But, yes, fixed block size is more common. > > "Hybrid" files

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/17/20 8:56 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > This is not necessarily true.  Many systems can handle "VBS" (Variable > Block Sequential) tape files. > But, yes, fixed block size is more common. "Hybrid" files are quite common, where all blocks are the same size, but for the last one. Or, in

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 09/17/2020 12:29 AM, shad via cctalk wrote: Hello, I have a question about 9 track tapes and block sizes. What I know is that tape is subdivided in files by means of marks, and each file is subdivided in blocks of equal size. This is not necessarily true. Many systems can handle "VBS"

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/17/20 6:19 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > CDC also supports "long blocks" in which the I/O for a single block is done > in pieces, so blocks can be read or written that are longer than what you > would think is the limit from the device limits. I'm not sure how long the > longest

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 17, 2020, at 1:29 AM, shad via cctalk > wrote: > > Hello, > I have a question about 9 track tapes and block sizes. > What I know is that tape is subdivided in files by means of marks, and each > file is subdivided in blocks of equal size. As others have said, no, "equal size"

Tektronix 4953 Graphics Tablet

2020-09-17 Thread Justin Keogh via cctalk
Hello everyone! I present to you a rare bird; the Tek 4953 graphics tablet, with (I think!?) everything. https://www.ebay.com/itm/203108439922 I am look forward to posting a series of _nice_ Tek terminals and complete DG rack systems. Please contact me directly if you have any questions.

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 17/09/2020 07:38, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: > The docs for SIMH .TAP files are here:- > > http://simh.trailing-edge.com/docs/simh_magtape.pdf > > be careful as there are also non-SIMH .tap formats > > In the IBM Mainframe emulation world there is also .AWS, an IBM format > introduced

Re: Care and feeding of some Lisp machines (TI Explorer and Xerox Star)

2020-09-17 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Josh Dersch wrote: > Not a ton to see, lisp-wise, it's just a port of Franz Lisp to > Uniflex. I can try to benchmark fibonacci later this week if you want. Thanks! I wasn't expecting a benchmark, just a little defun. For the record, I have a Maclisp over here that will do (fib 40) in less than

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
shad via cctalk wrote: > Hello, > I have a question about 9 track tapes and block sizes. > What I know is that tape is subdivided in files by means of marks, and each > file is subdivided in blocks of equal size. > Programs like tar use a specific block size to create files on tape. > However

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Dave Wade wrote: > The docs for SIMH .TAP files are here:- > > http://simh.trailing-edge.com/docs/simh_magtape.pdf > > be careful as there are also non-SIMH .tap formats Haha, yes very much so. For the fun of it, people like to mix and match these options: - Records padded to even length or

Re: Notes on HP3000 WCS Microcode, Series 37 on ebay in Germany

2020-09-17 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 8:19, Lee Courtney via cctech wrote: > Al - it would be a Very Good Thing to get those APL ROMS dumped when > possible. It would be good as well to dump the Series III main instruction set ROMs, assuming they're socketed. Bitsavers has a Series II microcode

RE: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Dennis Boone via > cctalk > Sent: 17 September 2020 06:53 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes > > > What I know is that tape is subdivided in files by means of marks, > and each > file is subdivided

Re: 9 track tapes and block sizes

2020-09-17 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 9/16/20 10:29 PM, shad via cctalk wrote: > Hello, > I have a question about 9 track tapes and block sizes. > What I know is that tape is subdivided in files by means of marks, and each > file is subdivided in blocks of equal size. > Programs like tar use a specific block size to create