Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 7:06 AM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > Yes, the TM02 and TM03 formatters allowed MASSBUS to connect to Pertec > drives, but I don't think you could run a tape drive and a disk drive on > the same MASSBUS channel anyway. Wonder why, technically the MASSBUS > cable is just a

Re: Funky electronics chain Fry’s is no more (Seattle Times)

2021-02-24 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 10:07 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > The worst were the Fry's sales people on the floor that would ignore you, > then badger > you to let them write a sale up so they'd get sales credit if you made the > mistake > of asking them where something was. And of course that

Re: Funky electronics chain Fry’s is no more (Seattle Times)

2021-02-24 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/24/21 8:29 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: there won't be much of any liquidation sales because they hadn't been paying vendors, who took all their stuff back that's why the shelves were empty, no one would give them any stock after that started to happen well over a year ago

Re: Funky electronics chain Fry’s is no more (Seattle Times)

2021-02-24 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 2/24/2021 8:07 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: The worst were the Fry's sales people on the floor that would ignore you, then badger you to let them write a sale up so they'd get sales credit if you made the mistake of asking them where something was. I always track down the Microcente

Re: Funky electronics chain Fry’s is no more (Seattle Times)

2021-02-24 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/24/21 7:51 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 2/24/21 7:38 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> The cashiers, of course, were minimum-wage and so had no idea of what >> was passing in front of them. > > They also had a no questions asked returns policy, which people abused. > > When som

Re: Funky electronics chain Fry’s is no more (Seattle Times)

2021-02-24 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
The worst were the Fry's sales people on the floor that would ignore you, then badger you to let them write a sale up so they'd get sales credit if you made the mistake of asking them where something was.

Re: Funky electronics chain Fry’s is no more (Seattle Times)

2021-02-24 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 2/24/21 7:38 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: The cashiers, of course, were minimum-wage and so had no idea of what was passing in front of them. They also had a no questions asked returns policy, which people abused. When something was returned, they'd rebag it and put it back on the she

Re: Funky electronics chain Fry’s is no more (Seattle Times)

2021-02-24 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/24/21 6:11 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > But, I remember the old days, when they had lots of "computer people" > food items, and even Jolt cola. You're forgetting Canfield Diet Fudge Chocolate Soda--I remember customers wheeling out dollies of the stuff.The idea was simplicity itsel

Re: Re: Funky electronics chain Fry’s is no more (Seattle Times)

2021-02-24 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/funky-electronics-chain-frys-is-no-more/ They could probably have hung on a little longer, by stocking those empty shelves with toilet paper, and maybe even some groceries. It has been many years since I was in a Fry's, because there weren't any very cl

Re: Funky electronics chain Fry’s is no more (Seattle Times)

2021-02-24 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 10:08 AM, Guy N. via cctalk wrote: > > https://www.seattletimes.com/business/funky-electronics-chain-frys-is-no-more/ > > So sad to see them go. There was a Fry's store close enough for me to > visit occasionally. What will I do now when I actually want to examine > th

Re: List your old computer

2021-02-24 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:01 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2/24/21 3:11 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: >> On 24/02/2021 23:02, stan via cctalk wrote: >>> By any chance, are you thinking of uptimes.net? >>> Some years ago (early 2000's?) it was tracking systems uptimes. I had >

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:06 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Chris Zach > >> technically the MASSBUS cable is just an extension of the Unibus > > No. > > For one thing, the MASSBUS has no lines for carrying memory addresses. So > there is no way to even build a box that 'tran

Re: FW: List your old computer

2021-02-24 Thread Santo Nucifora via cctalk
Looks a little different since the last time I looked around that feature (it was a while back) but I think it may be this site? https://www.1000bit.it/ Santo On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 7:32 PM Kevin Parker via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Thanks Stan - no it wasn’t anything to do with

Re: FW: List your old computer

2021-02-24 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/24/2021 06:01 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 2/24/21 3:11 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: On 24/02/2021 23:02, stan via cctalk wrote: By any chance, are you thinking of uptimes.net? Some years ago (early 2000's?) it was tracking systems uptimes. I had an Alpha system talking to

Re: List your old computer

2021-02-24 Thread Tom Owad via cctalk
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk > wrote: > I never got close to 1200 days, but I had an SGI machine at home talking to > uptimes.net. I remember watching it from work as it got close to 1 hours > (on the 416th day, 19th November 2002 according to syslog) when sudden

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Chris Zach > technically the MASSBUS cable is just an extension of the Unibus No. For one thing, the MASSBUS has no lines for carrying memory addresses. So there is no way to even build a box that 'translates' MASSBUS to UNIBUS; the semantics ('the things you can say', basically)

Re: FW: List your old computer

2021-02-24 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/24/21 3:11 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > On 24/02/2021 23:02, stan via cctalk wrote: >> By any chance, are you thinking of uptimes.net? >> Some years ago (early 2000's?) it was tracking systems uptimes. I had >> an Alpha  system talking to it at one time. >> >> IIRC, the record at one

RE: FW: List your old computer

2021-02-24 Thread Kevin Parker via cctalk
Thanks Stan - no it wasn’t anything to do with uptime. It was like a museum but people registered/listed their machines with some info about them and some pictures. Kevin Parker -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of stan via cctalk Sent: Thursday, 25 February 2021 10:02 AM To:

Re: FW: List your old computer

2021-02-24 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 24/02/2021 23:02, stan via cctalk wrote: By any chance, are you thinking of uptimes.net? Some years ago (early 2000's?) it was tracking systems uptimes. I had an Alpha  system talking to it at one time. IIRC, the record at one time was a VAX cluster, with an uptime of 1200+ days. Windows N

Re: FW: List your old computer

2021-02-24 Thread stan via cctalk
By any chance, are you thinking of uptimes.net? Some years ago (early 2000's?) it was tracking systems uptimes. I had an Alpha system talking to it at one time. IIRC, the record at one time was a VAX cluster, with an uptime of 1200+ days. Windows NT systems fared a lot worse, average of about

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
Do you have 3-phase power?  Will they even spin up? I do, but I don't care enough about them to try. I just want them gone. Bring your own fork lift, the battery in mine is dead and they are 15 feet up.

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > >> I happen to have a massbus adapter and the cabling with terminator for my >> 11/750, but I never came across any massbus peripherals. Considering the >> price back then and the size for these, they seem nowadays quite rare,

Re: SaturnCalc, Graph, and WP disks uploaded

2021-02-24 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
onsdag 24 februari 2021 skrev Chris Zach via cctalk : > They are RT11/TSX versions. > > Now for the problem of the day. The TSX 5.1 distribution have damage to > track zero, my guess is they were in the Solarex drives where the wonderful > silicon dust did a job on them. Anyone got really good 8

Re: archive of DEC Notes

2021-02-24 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 24, 2021, at 9:08 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk > wrote: > > On 24/02/2021 03:26, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: >> Does anyone have contact information for the proprietor of this site: >> http://www.activityclub.org/decnotes/ >> The site has an index of messages archived from

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/24/2021 12:26 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: I have two RP07s sitting on the upper mezanine here that were left behind by the former tennant of the building my shop is in. Do you have 3-phase power? Will they even spin up? Jon

RE: SaturnCalc, Graph, and WP disks uploaded

2021-02-24 Thread Mark Matlock via cctalk
Hi all! Spent some serious time this evening with the RX02 drives: I managed to download the images of the SaturnCalc 3.0, Saturn Graph, and Saturn WP software to RX02 images. I think it's set right, can someone take a look at the images and see if they are good? Should be RT11 format, RX02 (of

Re: SaturnCalc, Graph, and WP disks uploaded

2021-02-24 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
They are RT11/TSX versions. Now for the problem of the day. The TSX 5.1 distribution floppies have damage to track zero, my guess is they were in the Solarex drives where the wonderful silicon dust did a job on them. Anyone got really good 8 inch floppy skills and want to take a crack at readi

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
I have two RP07s sitting on the upper mezanine here that were left behind by the former tennant of the building my shop is in.

Funky electronics chain Fry’s is no more (Seattle Times)

2021-02-24 Thread Guy N. via cctalk
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/funky-electronics-chain-frys-is-no-more/ So sad to see them go. There was a Fry's store close enough for me to visit occasionally. What will I do now when I actually want to examine the merchandise before I pay for it?

Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/23/21 10:57 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:53 PM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is impressive and all that. I started on an 11/750 in 1984. They are fantastic little machines. If you only have

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Well, I had a program that could examine the home blocks, and I knew where to find the backup home blocks.  So, I hacked that program to copy the backup block to the main one, and then change the checksums to agree. That is one way to avoid a very long restore :-) The other issue is the voice

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Yep. I actually had one. The lid flew off the top of it while we were driving it back from Eastern shore to Baltimore on Rt. 50 but the rest of it was intact. Very different MBA controller from an RM02/03. Unfortunately when Doug closed up the storage place someone swiped MC from there before

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
On 2021-02-24 11:06 a.m., Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 02/24/2021 08:06 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: >> >> Sort of. MASSBUS was a very overpriced and to be honest weird system >> that DEC developed in an attempt to be like IBM and charge very high >> markups for generic peripherals. While

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/24/2021 08:06 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Sort of. MASSBUS was a very overpriced and to be honest weird system that DEC developed in an attempt to be like IBM and charge very high markups for generic peripherals. While it did support a variety of interface formats (I don't think t

Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den ons 24 feb. 2021 kl 04:57 skrev Ethan Dicks via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:53 PM Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > > Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is > > impressive and all that. > > I started on an 11/750 in 1984. They a

Re: archive of DEC Notes

2021-02-24 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 24/02/2021 03:26, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: Does anyone have contact information for the proprietor of this site: http://www.activityclub.org/decnotes/ The site has an index of messages archived from DEC's internal "Notes" (kind of their equivalent of UseNet). It appears from the

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I happen to have a massbus adapter and the cabling with terminator for my 11/750, but I never came across any massbus peripherals. Considering the price back then and the size for these, they seem nowadays quite rare, which is a real pity. Sort of. MASSBUS was a very overpriced and to be hone

Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread P Gebhardt via cctalk
Am Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2021, 03:53:19 MEZ hat Chris Zach via cctalk Folgendes geschrieben: >Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is >impressive and all that. However it doesn't look like that one has a >MASSBUS adapter so I will have to pass... > >And I just