For Sale: FANUC A860 papertape reader with DOSTEK BTR (adapter)

2021-08-02 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
FANUC A860-0056-T020 Papertape Reader and DOSTEK 440A BTR https://www.ebay.com/itm/274883740917 Ebay listing includes my project notes. Hopefully someone here will want it. Bill

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-02 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/2/21 5:53 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > He did say "in the 1960s" so it may have been an early one without the high > quality optimizations that grew over time. FTN was spawned during the 1960s. Bitsavers has the GIM from 1966: http://bitsavers.org/pdf/cdc/cyber/lang/fortran/60176400_FTN_Extd

Re: Compilers and languages (Was: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-02 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 6:07 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > One of the rites of passage (not necessarily the only one) in "computer > science" education is that every grad student invents a new language, and > writes a compiler. The compiler is not considered finished until the > current itera

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-02 Thread Tony Aiuto via cctalk
You are conflating the OS kernel with the developer A On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:11 AM Liam Proven via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 04:21, Tony Aiuto via cctalk > wrote: > > > > I would argue that this is totally wrong. iOS, > > Which is a Unix. Derived from Mac

Compilers and languages (Was: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-02 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Some might argue with you about that.  PL/M was done in Fortran IV. A REAL programmer can write a FORTRAN program in any language. A REAL programmer can write any program in FORTRAN.  (although, it is often the wrong tool for the job, possibly resulting in too much work and poorer performance.)

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 8/2/21 4:47 PM, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: Depending on what he was trying to do that may well be a valid assessment. CDC Fortran was known to be pretty good, but Fortran is not the obvious answer for implementing interpreters or other language processors, which this sounds like.

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 8/2/21 4:42 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Mon, 2 Aug 2021, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Some might argue with you about that.  PL/M was done in Fortran IV. A REAL programmer can write a FORTRAN program in any language. A REAL programmer can write any program in FORTRAN.  (although, it is

RE: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-02 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> > Depending on what he was trying to do that may well be a valid > assessment. CDC Fortran was known to be pretty good, but Fortran is not > the obvious answer for implementing interpreters or other language > processors, which this sounds like. > > > > Some might argue with you about that.

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-02 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 2 Aug 2021, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Some might argue with you about that. PL/M was done in Fortran IV. A REAL programmer can write a FORTRAN program in any language. A REAL programmer can write any program in FORTRAN. (although, it is often the wrong tool for the job, poss

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-02 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 2, 2021, at 4:14 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > On 8/2/21 12:19 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >>> On Aug 2, 2021, at 11:11 AM, James Liu via cctech >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for feedback and offers to assist. I received the tape from >>> one of the maintainers of

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 8/2/21 12:19 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Aug 2, 2021, at 11:11 AM, James Liu via cctech wrote: Thanks for feedback and offers to assist. I received the tape from one of the maintainers of Schoonship at CERN, and it was probably made around 1978 at SLAC. For some background, Tin

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-02 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 2, 2021, at 11:11 AM, James Liu via cctech > wrote: > > Thanks for feedback and offers to assist. I received the tape from > one of the maintainers of Schoonship at CERN, and it was probably made > around 1978 at SLAC. > > For some background, Tini Veltman developed Schoonship in t

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-02 Thread James Liu via cctalk
Thanks for feedback and offers to assist. I received the tape from one of the maintainers of Schoonship at CERN, and it was probably made around 1978 at SLAC. For some background, Tini Veltman developed Schoonship in the 1960's at CERN on the CDC 6600. My understanding is that he more or less in

RE: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-02 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Zane Healy via > cctalk > Sent: 02 August 2021 04:24 > To: William Donzelli > Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What > We Have Lost" > > > > >