[cctalk] Re: NRAO Data tapes

2023-05-09 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Tue, May 9, 2023, 9:47 PM Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: > I wonder if those date to the first time I visited, where the PDP-11s > were still installed :-) > > Are there still T-shirts available? Mine from that trip is trash :-) > The pdp-11s were Gove by the time I got to tech in 85 I think

[cctalk] Re: NRAO Data tapes

2023-05-09 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
I wonder if those date to the first time I visited, where the PDP-11s were still installed :-) Are there still T-shirts available? Mine from that trip is trash :-) mcl

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
Not to complicate the haunt for the first Altair, but there is no guarantee that it ever existed. Maybe it was an urban legend that it was shipped. If it did, did it work? Might just buy the remaining issue of Popular Electronics featuring the fake Altair. Regards, Tarek Hoteit > On May 9, 20

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 4:01 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Both UPS and Fedex will sometimes falsely claim that they had made a > delivery attempt. I've experienced this. > Does REA claim to have delivered the Altair? > I don't know that anyone can ever know at this point. I'm thinki

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM steve shumaker via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: A mostly similar variation has it that they shipped the unit via Railway Express Agency (remember REA??) and as the story goes, it was in transit when REA closed their doors unexpectedly and with no warnin

[cctalk] Re: Rainbow H7842 PSU Fault

2023-05-09 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Coghlan via cctalk > Sent: 09 May 2023 17:58 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > > Cc: Peter Coghlan > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Rainbow H7842 PSU Fault > > > > > I am going to read your answer more carefully later. But I wanted t

[cctalk] Re: NRAO Data tapes {External}

2023-05-09 Thread Dani Werts via cctalk
Eric, More than happy to send a reel or two your way. Just give me some information and I can make it happen. Danielle -Original Message- From: Eric Moore via cctalk Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 3:08 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Eric Moore Subject: [c

[cctalk] Re: NRAO Data tapes

2023-05-09 Thread Eric Moore via cctalk
I have an SEL 810A operating, which some of these tapes were likely written with. If any of the tapes are labelled I can quickly identify if it is an SEL product. -Eric On Tue, May 9, 2023, 1:21 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 5/9/23 09:36, Dani Werts via cctalk wrote: > > Hello, > > > >

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread Henry Bent via cctalk
On Tue, 9 May 2023 at 16:53, Sellam Abraham via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > *In November 1975, REA Express terminated operations and filed for > bankruptcy. During the railroad strike of October 1974, the first Altair > 8800 microcomputer was lost. It had been shipped from Albuquerq

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM steve shumaker via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > A mostly similar variation has it that they shipped the unit via Railway > Express Agency (remember REA??) and as the story goes, it was in > transit when REA closed their doors unexpectedly and with no w

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread steve shumaker via cctalk
A mostly similar variation has it that they shipped the unit via Railway Express Agency   (remember REA??)  and as the story goes, it was in transit when REA closed their doors unexpectedly and with no warning, went bankrupt. Steve On 5/9/23 11:47 AM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: On Tue,

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread W2HX via cctalk
Ok thanks everyone for the clarification. 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos -Original Message- From: Brent Hilpert via cctalk Sent: Tuesday, May 9, 2023 2:29 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Brent Hilpert

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 11:29 AM Brent Hilpert via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Might note also that the Altair on/in the Pop Electronics issue is > physically vastly different than what shipped, it's not even the same case. Yes. According to lore, that unit got lost in transit to

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2023-May-09, at 11:08 AM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > I see some altairs have a metal escutcheon on the bottom with the stylized > words "MITS ALTAIR 8800 COMPUTER" whereas others, the front panel is just the > dark faceplate top to bottom. What is the difference? Would one have been a > kit and

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/9/23 11:11, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk wrote: > Everyone lost the metal strip! It's sandwiched in between the trim of the > outer case and the dress panel. Some folks stuck it to the dress panel with > glue, double-sided tape, etc. Those are usually the machines which still have > the meta

[cctalk] Re: NRAO Data tapes

2023-05-09 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/9/23 09:36, Dani Werts via cctalk wrote: > Hello, > > I'm an employee with the National radio astronomy observatory here in Socorro > New Mexico. > As part of our NGVLA upgrades, we are seeking to get rid of old data tapes > from the tape reel days of Computing. These contain things such as

[cctalk] Re: Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
Everyone lost the metal strip! It's sandwiched in between the trim of the outer case and the dress panel. Some folks stuck it to the dress panel with glue, double-sided tape, etc. Those are usually the machines which still have the metal strip. Thanks, Jonathan --- Original Message ---

[cctalk] Altair 8800 question

2023-05-09 Thread W2HX via cctalk
I see some altairs have a metal escutcheon on the bottom with the stylized words "MITS ALTAIR 8800 COMPUTER" whereas others, the front panel is just the dark faceplate top to bottom. What is the difference? Would one have been a kit and the other sold fully assembled? Or maybe later units vs ear

[cctalk] Re: Rainbow H7842 PSU Fault

2023-05-09 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > I am going to read your answer more carefully later. But I wanted to check > one thing. I measured the base-emitter voltage as negative in both cases, > and yet the TIP121 appears to be conducting on the bad PSU. Surely that > means that the TIP121 is not working correctly? > I'd be very reluc

[cctalk] Re: NRAO Data tapes

2023-05-09 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
It would be useful to know what systems these tapes were used on. All the best, --Chuck On 5/9/23 09:36, Dani Werts via cctalk wrote: > Hello, > > I'm an employee with the National radio astronomy observatory here in Socorro > New Mexico. > As part of our NGVLA upgrades, we are seeking to ge

[cctalk] Re: NRAO Data tapes

2023-05-09 Thread The Doctor via cctalk
--- Original Message --- On Tuesday, May 9th, 2023 at 09:36, Dani Werts via cctalk wrote: > As part of our NGVLA upgrades, we are seeking to get rid of old data tapes > from the tape > reel days of Computing. These contain things such as the boot loaders, OS, > specific > collection

[cctalk] Re: Rainbow H7842 PSU Fault

2023-05-09 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2023-May-09, at 12:28 AM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: > I thought I must be off somewhere by 10^n when first doing the calc. The 51Ω > is 3 orders of magnitude away from the 0.01Ω on the other outputs, so a > similar diff could be anticipated on the current sense. > > The low current sens

[cctalk] NRAO Data tapes

2023-05-09 Thread Dani Werts via cctalk
Hello, I'm an employee with the National radio astronomy observatory here in Socorro New Mexico. As part of our NGVLA upgrades, we are seeking to get rid of old data tapes from the tape reel days of Computing. These contain things such as the boot loaders, OS, specific collection programs and a

[cctalk] Re: Rainbow H7842 PSU Fault

2023-05-09 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2023-May-08, at 12:27 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > However, Brent's calculations show that the current trip value for the -12V > line is as low as 1.3mA and I can't see any reason to disagree with his > calculations or his conclusion that this seems very low (except that another > tiny

[cctalk] Re: Rainbow H7842 PSU Fault

2023-05-09 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2023-May-08, at 11:24 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > I am going to read your answer more carefully later. But I wanted to check > one thing. I measured the base-emitter voltage as negative in both cases, and > yet the TIP121 appears to be conducting on the bad PSU. Surely that means >