On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 10:26 PM Tomasz Rola via cctalk
wrote:
> I guess we are all prisoners of our own mental frame. I recall that
> Ken Olsen (DEC founder), once quipped "There is no reason for any
> individual to have a computer in his home." - that was in 1977,
> according to wikiquote:
>
>
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 02:43:06AM -0500, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote:
> I don't think Gates ever actually said this - but that's just based on my
> own examination into this from a few years back.
>
> But, over the years I've done some thread programming, and I was once
> solving a problem by
Remember 32 bit code is 2x the size of 16 bit stuff.
On 2023-06-16 2:31 p.m., r.stricklin via cctalk wrote:
Are you, like, trying to play the list for laughs, with this kind of
comment?
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023, ben via cctalk wrote:
It is not? 3x's better.
All I know after x86 programs keep
On 2023-06-16 4:56 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 6/16/23 12:48, ben via cctalk wrote:
What cpu?
Minix was 16 bit code only. I suspect 16 bit code here as well.
Remember 32 bit code is 2x the size of 16 bit stuff.
32-bit, I'm afraid. To quote:
WHAT IS LINUX?
Linux is a Unix
On 2023-06-16 2:31 p.m., r.stricklin via cctalk wrote:
On Jun 16, 2023, at 12:48 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
Remember 32 bit code is 2x the size of 16 bit stuff.
Are you, like, trying to play the list for laughs, with this kind of comment?
It is not? 3x's better.
All I know after x86
On 2023-06-16 2:12 p.m., Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 6/16/2023 3:51 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Jun 16, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
On 6/16/23 12:02, ben via cctalk wrote:
Ken , Jobs and Wozniak need their fair share.
Graphics and file system
On 6/16/23 12:48, ben via cctalk wrote:
> What cpu?
> Minix was 16 bit code only. I suspect 16 bit code here as well.
> Remember 32 bit code is 2x the size of 16 bit stuff.
32-bit, I'm afraid. To quote:
WHAT IS LINUX?
Linux is a Unix clone for 386/486-based PCs written from scratch by
> On Jun 16, 2023, at 12:48 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
>
> Remember 32 bit code is 2x the size of 16 bit stuff.
Are you, like, trying to play the list for laughs, with this kind of comment?
ok
bear.
On 6/16/2023 3:51 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Jun 16, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
On 6/16/23 12:02, ben via cctalk wrote:
Ken , Jobs and Wozniak need their fair share.
Graphics and file system buffers take up more
space than you expect.
I just transferred
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 1:49 PM ben via cctalk
wrote:
> On 2023-06-16 1:40 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> > On 6/16/23 12:02, ben via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >> Ken , Jobs and Wozniak need their fair share.
> >> Graphics and file system buffers take up more
> >> space than you expect.
> >
>
> On Jun 16, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 6/16/23 12:02, ben via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Ken , Jobs and Wozniak need their fair share.
>> Graphics and file system buffers take up more
>> space than you expect.
>
> I just transferred a DC150 tar tape. Total
On 2023-06-16 1:40 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 6/16/23 12:02, ben via cctalk wrote:
Ken , Jobs and Wozniak need their fair share.
Graphics and file system buffers take up more
space than you expect.
I just transferred a DC150 tar tape. Total (uncompressed) file size was
11MB.
On 6/16/23 12:02, ben via cctalk wrote:
> Ken , Jobs and Wozniak need their fair share.
> Graphics and file system buffers take up more
> space than you expect.
I just transferred a DC150 tar tape. Total (uncompressed) file size was
11MB. What was on it? The complete source to Linux 1.0.
On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:02 PM ben via cctalk
wrote:
> On 2023-06-16 12:24 p.m., Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
> > I was at a Comdex once in Chicago where the featured speaker was Bill
> > Gates and he said that Microsoft would never write a program that needed
> > more than 256K of memory.
> >
On 2023-06-16 12:24 p.m., Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
I was at a Comdex once in Chicago where the featured speaker was Bill
Gates and he said that Microsoft would never write a program that needed
more than 256K of memory.
A few years later, Microsoft Exchange Server required a minimum of
I was at a Comdex once in Chicago where the featured speaker was Bill
Gates and he said that Microsoft would never write a program that needed
more than 256K of memory.
A few years later, Microsoft Exchange Server required a minimum of 256MB
of memory to run.
Just for comparison my new
640K was maybe "enough for anyone"
Weird but I even seem to remember someone saying "who woukd been more than
64k"
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023, Adam Thornton via cctalk wrote:
And let's not forget "what's the hardest part about emulating Gerald Ford
on a PDP-8? Figuring out what to do with the other
> 640K was maybe "enough for anyone"
>
> Weird but I even seem to remember someone saying "who woukd been more than
> 64k"
> Ed# SMECC
>
>
>
And let's not forget "what's the hardest part about emulating Gerald Ford
on a PDP-8? Figuring out what to do with the other 3K."
Weird but I even seem to remember someone saying "who woukd been more than 64k"
Ed# SMECC
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On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 12:43 AM, Steve Lewis via
cctalk wrote: I don't think Gates ever actually said
this - but that's just based on my
own examination into this from
I think what he meant was ' no application needs more than 640k - the rest
is for the operating system'
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023, 08:43 Steve Lewis via cctalk,
wrote:
> I don't think Gates ever actually said this - but that's just based on my
> own examination into this from a few years back.
>
>
I don't think Gates ever actually said this - but that's just based on my
own examination into this from a few years back.
But, over the years I've done some thread programming, and I was once
solving a problem by loading a lot of data into main memory (like 8-16GB of
data to process as one huge
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