[cctalk] Re: Looking for an HP 9000/778 workstation B160/180

2024-04-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Apr 4, 2024, at 7:17 PM, Kevin Bowling wrote: > > There is an ebay seller 'biff-howard-tanen' that has some C200s up > right now. All their items have "Make an Offer'' and they tend to be > fairly reasonable as long as you account for the free shipping they > offer. I've had mostly good

[cctalk] Re: Looking for an HP 9000/778 workstation B160/180

2024-03-24 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I just looked at the prices on eBay—yikes! All of my HP hardware from that era was pretty inexpensive a few years back. What are people using the B180L for that’s driven the prices so high? I assume it’s another “there’s a piece of equipment that was built around this specific platform 20+

[cctalk] Re: Vmebus

2024-02-06 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Feb 2, 2024, at 2:06 AM, David Brownlee via cctalk wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 at 18:34, Wouter de Waal via cctalk > wrote: >> If someone here has the warm fuzzies for PPC VME, we can talk :-) > > Other than a reflexive twitch to see if NetBSD can run on the MPC7448? :-p It’s NetBSD,

[cctalk] Re: Vmebus

2024-01-30 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jan 29, 2024, at 8:07 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > Anyone have a VMEbus system they use at least occasionally? If so, what > make/model/config? I have a variety of VME hardware that I use some of the time, and on the ClassicCmp Discord we even have a #vme channel. I've mostly

[cctalk] Re: Vmebus

2024-01-30 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jan 30, 2024, at 3:25 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > thanks. I suppose that gives me enough idea what time period and use they > had VMEbus was widely used as a successor to MultiBus in the workstation market, a lot of vendors that started with MultiBus (Sun/SGI for example)

[cctalk] Re: The Mac at 40

2024-01-24 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Apple didn't "steal" anything because Xerox received a tranche of pre-IPO Apple shares in exchange for allowing SJ and his folks to visit PARC for a bunch of demos and do whatever they wanted with what they saw. Nowadays you can also try out systems like Smalltalk-78, Xerox ViewPoint, etc. as

[cctalk] Re: Computhink Eagle 32 - software, docs, info?

2023-12-29 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I picked up this system from its previous caretaker yesterday, to hold onto for a friend. I’ve also inventoried the major functional ICs and archived the “IPL-M” ROMs. Here’s what’s in the Eagle-32: - Main Logic Board - 8MHz 68000 CPU - 2x D8255 programmable peripheral interface - left

[cctalk] Re: TI 960

2023-09-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Sep 4, 2023, at 1:01 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Weren't the TI 900 series the things called Transputers? No. Completely unrelated. — Chris

[cctalk] Re: Little Databases

2023-08-31 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Aug 19, 2023, at 7:33 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2023, 8:31 PM Gavin Scott via cctalk > wrote: > >> It [SQLite] has billions of installations and on the order of a trillion >> databases in use. >> > > Surely you hyperbole. This is not hyperbole, there are

[cctalk] Re: CPT Phoenix Jr system unit? Monitor and Keyboard

2023-06-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jun 7, 2023, at 5:09 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > > Sorry I missed this, you only sent it to the list and I haven't looked at the > list for a while. I've actually just acquired a CPT Phoenix Jr. computer to > go with my display and keyboard, so I now have a full sys

[cctalk] Re: CPT Phoenix Jr system unit? Monitor and Keyboard

2023-06-07 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Sorry I missed this, you only sent it to the list and I haven't looked at the list for a while. I've actually just acquired a CPT Phoenix Jr. computer to go with my display and keyboard, so I now have a full system that I'm planning to restore and use. In what way has your display failed? If

[cctalk] Re: The World Wide Web

2023-05-05 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On May 4, 2023, at 10:51 AM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote: > > It seems like all of the good USENET providers are subscription > services now. I'm not sure of any ISP that I've heard of who still > runs one. What about eternal-september.org? -- Chris

[cctalk] Re: NCD-17c and NCD-19 X terminal cap lists?

2023-04-05 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Apr 4, 2023, at 6:29 PM, Richard via cctalk wrote: > > In article <07a97414-a207-42f5-8c6b-64f4556e3...@eschatologist.net>, > "Chris Hanson via cctalk" writes: > >> Does anyone have a list of replacement capacitors to use for NCD X >> terminal

[cctalk] NCD-17c and NCD-19 X terminal cap lists?

2023-04-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Does anyone have a list of replacement capacitors to use for NCD X terminals, specifically the 17c and 19? A couple searches online don't turn up anything. I just got my NCD 17c up and running—I showed a pic or two on discord://classiccmp/#terminals a couple days ago—and now while I hear the HV

[cctalk] Re: Knockoffs, was: Low cost logic analyzer

2023-03-14 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Mar 14, 2023, at 2:55 PM, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > > On 3/14/2023 4:16 PM, Jonathan Chapman wrote: >> There are other things that we've chosen not to run for the same basic >> reason, and others that won't get open sourced. > > I will admit I am trending in that direction. I put

[cctalk] Re: PT-68K

2022-12-28 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:47 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: > >> On 12/27/2022 9:36 PM CST Chris via cctalk wrote: >> >> Those are for a different board. Maybe close enough? > > If you read the description it says the only difference is the clock chip, > which I believe is "fully" compatible.

[cctalk] Re: Data General Nova and Eclipse Hobbyist License...

2022-11-29 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:12 PM, Bruce Ray via cctalk wrote: > It is not a sublicense, Wild Hare Computer Systems, Inc., now has copyright > and title to the legacy DG/EMC software. That's awesome news, congratulations! -- Chris

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-11-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Oct 31, 2022, at 11:45 PM, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > Thank you Rich for shedding light on this. Most of it makes sense to me, > but the secrecy part where you weren't allowed to talk to those still at > the museum is weird. I can't see any possible commercial reason for > preventing

[cctalk] Re: LC:M+L (Living Computer Museum)

2022-11-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Oct 31, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote: > > Tour guides and front desk personnel were immediately let go, because it was > clear that it would be several months, up to a year, before we could open > again. Microsoft, Google, Apple, Facebook etc. were willing to pay all of

[cctalk] Re: 50 Years of the HP 3000

2022-11-03 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Nov 1, 2022, at 11:55 AM, Mark Moulding via cctalk wrote: > > I'd like to see $2000, but will cheerfully entertain offers (cheerfully if > they're reasonable, or met with hysterical laughter if not). You may need to adjust your expectations on that front. Even with pandemic-related

[cctalk] Bubbl-Tec bubble memory (QBus)

2022-09-13 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I just acquired the several Bubbl-Tec bubble memory boards for QBus, and was wondering if anyone had manuals or more information than the couple of web pages I've found with high-level descriptions: MBC-11A bubble memory controller MBB-11A bubble memory board for use with MBC-11A QBI-11C bubble

[cctalk] Re: DECnet to be dropped from Linux

2022-08-02 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
It just sounds to me like the implementation should move to userspace. Why does it need to be in the kernel? -- Chris

Later Data General (D214/AViiON) keyboards?

2022-05-05 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
No, I'm not looking for old Dasher keyboards because "omg Severance." I have a couple of Data General terminals (D214) and a couple of Data General UNIX workstations (AViiON, using m88k CPU) and only one keyboard. The one that uses an 8-pin DIN connector similar to the 5-pin IBM PC XT keyboard

Re: Sun-2 and Sun-3 mice (eBay)

2021-10-27 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Oct 26, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Rico Pajarola via cctalk wrote: > > I bought some of his stuff, but I picked it up. No complaints, it cleaned > up nicely. Try "make an offer"... As have I, got a Sun-2 monitor too! He should list his whole stock, not just one item at a time. (I gather he's got a

Re: FTGH

2021-10-15 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Oct 11, 2021, at 11:52 AM, John Forecast via cctalk wrote: > Due to family medical issues I have to downsize and move into a retirement > facility at the end of this month. Oh no! I hope everything will be OK, and that you're not being forced to downsize *too* much as part of this. > >

Seeking DEC BC19S (VS2000 color video/keyboard/mouse) cable

2021-09-22 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I now have a 4-plane color graphics card for my VAXstation 2000, and I'd like to actually connect it to a display. Does anyone have a DEC BC19S cable that needs a good home? For reference, this has a DA15F connector on one end that plugs into the VAXstation, which leads to a box that screws

Re: Linearizing PDF scans

2021-08-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Aug 14, 2021, at 3:54 PM, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: > I guess the operative question is whether people tend to view PDF pages on > a server or download files and view them locally. Even when viewing files locally, linearization is important for not having to load too much of the

Re: Writings on AI from 17 years ago....

2021-05-24 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On May 24, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > However, it looks like they may be trying to re-form it as a charitable > organization, Vulcan Arts & Entertainment, similar to what happened with > EMP/MoPOP. They have a fancy new website (https://vulcanae.com) and are >

WTB: HP 9000-340 memory (HP 98268A), AUI (HP 98235A), SCSI (HP 98658A)

2021-02-15 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I've acquired an HP 9000-340C+ and I'd like to kit it out with the maximum RAM, SCSI, and AUI rather than thin Ethernet. Desired: - RAM boards: HP 98268A RAM board (three of them to get to 16MB, I'd probably buy extra just to be safe) - AUI LAN board: 98571-66534, aka HP 98235A AUI LAN Upgrade

Re: Greaseweazle

2021-02-03 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:58 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: > > You're absolutely correct, however the only thing Al contributes (for the > purposes of this particular discussion) are complaints about how other people > are doing it wrong. I think Al has contributed enormously to the archival and

Re: Greaseweazle

2021-02-01 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Feb 1, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > > Indeed. The important part is that someone's written some firmware. Oh, and > it's cheap too, of course. And that it's something available for the community to work with and improve, rather than something where people are

CPT Phoenix Jr system unit?

2021-01-29 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I’ve acquired the display and keyboard portion of a CPT Phoenix Jr but the seller didn’t have the system unit. (I suspect someone along the chain of custody thought it was a generic PC and recycled it.) Does anyone have one that needs a home? — Chris — who has an affinity for portrait

Re: personal history of personal computers

2021-01-24 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jan 24, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > What happens if it's not possible to talk to you? Can you write up just what > the deal is with the drive, so that everyone can learn? And now I see that you've done so—thank you! -- Chris

Re: personal history of personal computers

2021-01-24 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jan 4, 2021, at 1:31 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > > There was a little known 68K machine. It was the Canon Cat. Although, it was > generally not intended as a development machine, in its short life, several > applications were developed. > It was primarily sold as a word processor ( quite

Re: Anyone want some LMI Lisp Machine tapes?

2020-12-03 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Dec 2, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/2/20 7:37 PM, r.stricklin via cctech wrote: >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Chris Hanson via cctech wrote: >>> I’m bidding on these tapes with the intent to get them into the hands of >>> someone like Josh and/or Al who has the

Re: Anyone want some LMI Lisp Machine tapes?

2020-12-02 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I’m bidding on these tapes with the intent to get them into the hands of someone like Josh and/or Al who has the skill and equipment to read and archive them. I hope nobody is trying to acquire them just to “have” them. — Chris

Re: DEC PDP-8/E wanted

2020-11-22 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Nov 20, 2020, at 10:08 AM, Tom Uban via cctalk wrote: > > For those interested in a PDP-8 system but don't want the large size/weight > and > maintenance issues, I built the full set of Spare Time Gizmos SBC6120 > (integrated > PDP-8), FP6120 (front panel for SBC6120) and IOB6120 (Jim

Re: Crypto Ancienne: TLS for the Internet of Old Things

2020-11-18 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Nov 18, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: >> Another option for these systems is mbedTLS, originally by ARM. It only >> requires C89, > > I looked at mbedTLS (formerly PolarSSL) before I even embarked on it based > on other recommendations, but it claims to require c99: Oh,

Re: Crypto Ancienne: TLS for the Internet of Old Things

2020-11-18 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Nov 16, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: > > If you have an older pre-C99 system, I've backported a TLS 1.2 library to gcc > versions as early as 2.5 as long as it has 64-bit ints (long long, usually) > and stdarg.h. > > https://github.com/classilla/cryanc Great work,

Re: Anyone want to part with a DEC MXV11-B (M7195) and/or M8012 (BDV11)?

2020-10-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Oct 4, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: > >> For the latter two, I need to figure out whether my backplane supports ABCD >> use in the first couple of slots, or if it’s purely an ABAB model. (The >> KDF11-A, RLV12, and MLSI-SCM11 came in the backplane, but I’m hesitant to >>

Re: Anyone want to part with a DEC MXV11-B (M7195) and/or M8012 (BDV11)?

2020-10-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Thanks to everyone who replied, on- and off-list! There’s an MXV11-B (M7195) on its way to me. :) Since people were asking about my setup, here’s what I have: - MDB BA11-clone enclosure, PSU, and 8-slot 22-bit backplane - DEC KDF11-A (M8186) rev C processor with FPP added - DEC DLV11-J (M8043)

Anyone want to part with a DEC MXV11-B (M7195) and/or M8012 (BDV11)?

2020-10-03 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
My little LSI-11 system doesn't have a usable Line-Time Clock because it lacks the register, which it expects to be in either an MXV11-B (M7195) or a BDV11 (M8012). My power supply theoretically supplies the LTC but I haven't confirmed that, so my preference would be an M7195 if possible. Does

Re: Old Terminals

2020-10-02 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Oct 2, 2020, at 12:01 PM, John Many Jars via cctalk wrote: > > I've always had a weakness for terminals. > > I have a question, are all those RJ-11 style keyboards interchangeable? No, virtually every manufacturer had its own signaling and protocols, and in a lot of cases individual

Re: Exploring early GUIs

2020-09-21 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Sep 21, 2020, at 9:29 PM, Richard Pope wrote: > >The Amiga 1000 with AmigaDos and Workbench was released in late 1985. > AmigaDos is based on Unix and Workbench is based on X-windows. Neither of these claims is correct. — Chris

Re: Exploring early GUIs

2020-09-21 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Sep 21, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: > > Almost looks like a SunView ancestor. I’m pretty sure SunWindows/SunView predates MGR by 2-3 years. — Chris

Re: Care and feeding of some Lisp machines (TI Explorer and Xerox Star)

2020-09-15 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Sep 14, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > > The Star mouse pad can be recreated with a laser printer (I've used this: > http://www.digibarn.com/collections/devices/xerox-mousepad/index.html, and > there's a postscript file floating around out there…). Here’s some PostScript

Re: CMU Andrew system (and wm) preservation

2020-09-07 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Sep 7, 2020, at 6:24 AM, dst...@execulink.com wrote: > > The description I have for AUIS (6.3.1) is: > > "AUIS (Andrew User Interface System) - compound document > environment offering a word processor, mail/bulletin board > reader/writer, drawing editor, spreadsheet, font editor, >

Re: CMU Andrew system (and wm) preservation

2020-09-06 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Sep 6, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Don Stalkowski wrote: > > Forgive a dumb question, but is this somehow related to the Andrew Tool Kit > or the Andrew User Interface System? Yes indeed, the Andrew window manager and the Andrew Tool Kit were both part of the Andrew User Interface System. -- Chris

CMU Andrew system (and wm) preservation

2020-09-06 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Back before X11 took off, IBM funded CMU's development of Andrew, which had its own complete window system represented by its "wm" window manager. One of the many things that led to X's prevalence was that to get ahold of Andrew and wm, you had to license it from IBM, whereas X was licensed

Micro Memory VME card info? MM-6316

2020-09-05 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I have a Micro Memory Inc. 16MB VME DRAM card MM-6316 but unlike many other Micro Memory products I can’t find a user’s manual. Does anyone know anything about the jumpers/switches for this board? — Chris Sent from my iPad

Re: SIMH on low overhead platform

2020-08-20 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Aug 20, 2020, at 4:30 AM, Jan-Benedict Glaw wrote: > It's debateable whether or not the all-in-one builds are good or bad. > Ie. GCC went into quite some development effort to gain LTO (link-time > optimization) up'n'running, which was built quite exactly to allow > optimizations that would

Re: SIMH on low overhead platform

2020-08-18 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Aug 18, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 8/17/20 5:34 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: >> One thing that would make it much easier to experiment with SIMH in >> scenarios like this is if its build system wasn't horribly redundant. > > Why a

Re: Sun/3-powered 737 flight sim

2020-08-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Yeah, there's good reason more modern AUI-based Ethernet and more modern SCSI systems use resettable polyfuses... -- Chris > On Aug 17, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Michael Thompson > wrote: > > I have also seen the SCSI terminator power fuse blow when the terminator is > hot plugged. > > On Mon,

Re: SIMH on low overhead platform

2020-08-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Aug 17, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > > NetBSD runs SIMH just fine and can be made to boot extremely quickly. Oh yeah, NetBSD 9.0-stable 64-bit also only takes a few seconds to boot on a Raspberry Pi 3B+. It's easy enough to just throw on an SD card and try out.

Re: SIMH on low overhead platform

2020-08-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
One thing that would make it much easier to experiment with SIMH in scenarios like this is if its build system wasn't horribly redundant. It genuinely looks like someone looked at make and said "How can I turn this into a procedural scripting system?" and then wrote the SIMH makefile in that

Re: Sun/3-powered 737 flight sim

2020-08-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Aug 17, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Michael Thompson via cctalk wrote: > > I have a Sun 3/E, including a SCSI/Ethernet board, that ran fine the last > time it was powered on. There is a collector in southern Germany who also > has a 3/E board set. I didn't see any contact information for the

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jul 28, 2020, at 4:41 PM, Zane Healy wrote: > > On Jul 28, 2020, at 4:30 PM, Chris Hanson via cctalk > wrote: >> >> Can someone please post a link to some text describing the new licensing >> program and how to apply to it? >> >> Just se

Re: OpenVMS Community License

2020-07-28 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Can someone please post a link to some text describing the new licensing program and how to apply to it? Just sending a video isn't useful for everyone. -- Chris

Re: Motorola 12Xbug?

2020-07-19 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Thanks once again! — Chris Sent from my iPad > On Jul 19, 2020, at 7:54 AM, Plamen Mihaylov > wrote: > >  > http://afterpeople.com/vmefiles/ > >> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 8:43 AM Chris Hanson via cctalk >> wrote: >> Does anyone know where to fi

MVME225 documentation

2020-07-18 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Does anyone have MVME225 documentation? I have one of these boards now and no docs for how to set the addressing jumpers/switches. -- Chris

Motorola 12Xbug?

2020-07-18 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Does anyone know where to find Motorola 120bug or 12Xbug? I have an MVME121 but it has a third party ROM, not the typical Motorola boot ROM. (The 12Xbug manual would be handy too, of course.) -- Chris

Re: MVME332XT documentation?

2020-07-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
m my iPad > On Jul 3, 2020, at 11:50 PM, Plamen Mihaylov > wrote: > >  > Here you go http://m88k.com/files/ > >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 9:13 AM Chris Hanson via cctalk >> wrote: >> I’ve acquired a couple of MVME332XT (plus port panels and cabling) and was

Re: MVME332XT documentation?

2020-07-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Excellent, thank you! — Chris

MVME332XT documentation?

2020-07-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I’ve acquired a couple of MVME332XT (plus port panels and cabling) and was surprised to find that there’s very little documentation online, only a few references for setting up the board as part of specific systems. And a driver for it in OpenBSD 5.5—for their mvme88k platform only, because for

Re: UUCP on macOS / *BSD

2020-07-01 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jun 28, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > - uuto / uucp copy files from my non-root / non-(_)uucp user to the UUCP > spool. But the (demand based) ""call (pipe over SSH) is failing. macOS switched to launchd from inetd a very long time ago. If you're going to use

Re: CSPI SC-3XL and SC-4XL documentation?

2020-06-19 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
It looks like what I’m looking for from CSPI (aka CSP, Inc.) is the “SuperKit” board support, function, and RPC library for the SuperCard SC-3XL and SC-4XL, along with their documentation. There are mentions of it in the Wayback Machine for http://www.cspi.com/ and the vendor is still around,

CSPI SC-3XL and SC-4XL documentation?

2020-06-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I've just come into a couple of CSPI VME cards, an SC-3XL and an SC-4XL (both with attached memory), and I was wondering if anyone has documentation. They're based on the Intel i860 and intended for VME-based array processors. -- Chris

Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jun 17, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020, ED SHARPE @ AOHell.com via cctalk wrote: >> These 2 have my vote as well >> I do not know, anyone using a text only mail reader anymore! >> >>> The one thing I would change here is removal of the

Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jun 17, 2020, at 1:50 AM, Tor Arntsen via cctalk wrote: > There is also groups.io, and it has some very nice features compared to > > Please please, no groups of any kinds. They're all horrible to use. Do you mean "web forum" where you say "groups?" > A > genuine mailing list like

Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jun 16, 2020, at 10:23 PM, Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk wrote: > > Jon Elson wrote: >> Yes, several other groups I read and contribute to have moved to >> groups.io, and they are working quite well and reliably. Some options >> require $10 a month to be free from ads. > > That's a red flag.

Re: Living Computer Museum

2020-05-28 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On May 28, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Tony Aiuto via cctalk wrote: > > So depressingly true. I run the little museum in Google's NYC office. > I've had a bunch of working 80's-90's era machines and workstations on > display, but they require constant repair because people are too lazy or > entitled to

Re: Living Computer Museum

2020-05-28 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On May 28, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Robert Harrison via cctalk wrote: > > Does anyone know what it would take to sustain the museum until it can > reopen? Are tickets a major source of income? > This is the first I have heard of the museum, so I don’t know much about it, > but it sounds like

Re: Living Computer Museum

2020-05-28 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On May 28, 2020, at 10:31 AM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > >> Loans are standard practice in art museums, from other museums as well as >> from private collections. Perhaps not so much in science/technology museums. > > Art museums work under a different set of rules and ethics than

Re: Living Computer Museum

2020-05-27 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On May 27, 2020, at 8:48 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr wrote: > > I would think that if people you liked got replaced with people who > don't care then you might have a major battle trying to get back stuff > you loaned. It might be a battle, possibly even a major one, but it would be fundamentally

Re: Living Computer Museum

2020-05-27 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On May 27, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Alan Perry wrote: > > That wasn’t an option for most folks. They told me that they didn’t accept > items on loan. Well, that really sucks. -- Chris

Re: Living Computer Museum

2020-05-27 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
The big problem with this situation is that it’s simply unnecessary: Living Computer Museum + Labs is not independent of Vulcan, and Vulcan can *easily* afford to keep the people who work there on payroll and working from home indefinitely. This is happening entirely because the people holding

Re: Living Computer Museum

2020-05-27 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
This is why people should avoid donating equipment directly to institutions and instead lend hardware to them. At least then you have a claim with which to try to get your stuff back if they fold, close, or decide to go in a direction you don’t like. -- Chris

Re: (V)HDL Toolsets

2020-05-23 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On May 23, 2020, at 7:54 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > I don't think a 100K character IBM SMS machine needs DDR. 8D For my > old student ECE ZAP machine, I just used very simple > on-development-board RAM, with a layer in between. Probably do the same > here. These days, the RAM on a lot of

Re: (V)HDL Toolsets

2020-05-22 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On May 21, 2020, at 8:46 AM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: > > Helpful tips - I agree with avoiding vendor extensions. Thanks. I’d strongly suggest that the situation with FPGAs & HDLs requires a bit more nuance than that. You *should* probably avoid or carefully isolate vendor *language

Re: Any fun SunWindows/SunView stuff?

2020-03-09 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Mar 9, 2020, at 2:26 PM, Jason T via cctalk wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 2:19 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk > wrote: > >> Were there any fun SunView applications or hacks back in the day? >> >> Other than the demos, the only stuff I currently have is emacsto

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-09 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Mar 9, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > On 3/9/20 1:33 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: >> On 3/9/2020 12:20 PM, Eric Smith wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:32 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk >>> mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: >>> >>> I would

Any fun SunWindows/SunView stuff?

2020-03-09 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I have my Sun-4/110C set up and running SunOS 4.1.4. Were there any fun SunView applications or hacks back in the day? Other than the demos, the only stuff I currently have is emacstool (built as part of emacs 18.59) and the PLATO client (which I haven’t actually built yet). I know I can read

Mach

2020-01-05 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: > > It did seem for a while that a lot of things were based on Mach, but >> >> very few seemed to make it to market. NeXTstep and OSF/1, the only >> version of which to ship AFAIK was DEC OSF/1 AXP, later Digital UNIX, >> later

OpenStep Solaris

2020-01-05 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jan 5, 2020, at 7:02 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > Sun *did* do a full port of OpenStep to Solaris, but while I know > people who saw it, I am not sure if it got a full commercial release. Not quite! Sun was a participant in creating the OpenStep standard (the NS class prefix stands

Taligent

2020-01-05 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jan 5, 2020, at 12:56 AM, Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk wrote: > Does Talingent Pink sound familiar? OS/2 was ported to powerPC, and so > was Netware iirc. The field was quite busy with hopeful Microsoft > killers. OS/2 was to be morphed into a cross-platform o/s, to wean > folks from

Re: IBM RS/6000 Model 320 (7012-320) SCSI cabling

2020-01-04 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:31 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > > I don't have any internal SCSI cables left from those systems. I do > still have a 70F9733 5-foot external SCSI cable that has the weird > 60-pin connector on the system end, and the weird pass-thru normal > 50-pin connector on the

IBM RS/6000 Model 320 (7012-320) SCSI cabling

2020-01-03 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Does anyone have a spare internal or external SCSI cable for the IBM RS/6000 Model 320 with the IBM MCA SCSI-1 card (3-1)? For those who don’t know/remember, this card uses a pair of edge connectors (like MFM/ESDI) rather than an IDC connector to connect to its internal two-drop cable, and its

IBM RS/6000 Model 320 (7012-320) and AIX 3.2.5

2020-01-03 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I have an IBM RS/6000 POWERstation 320 (original 7012-320) with plenty of RAM and SCSI storage. I’d like to install AIX 3.2.5 on it. Here’s the hardware setup: - POWERstation 320 - 8MB RAM currently, soon to be 72MB - Serial port adapter so I can use a terminal - Correct IBM keyboard (not

Re: Vigra MMI-210 (VME DSP/audio card) documentation?

2019-10-24 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Oct 24, 2019, at 10:30 AM, Ethan O'Toole wrote: > >> I just acquired a Vigra MMI-210 VME DSP/audio card that I’d like to get >> working. Does anyone happen to have manuals or know where I could find them? >> The Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive provides some Anyone have a >> source

Vigra MMI-210 (VME DSP/audio card) documentation?

2019-10-23 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I just acquired a Vigra MMI-210 VME DSP/audio card that I’d like to get working. Does anyone happen to have manuals or know where I could find them? The Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive provides some programming information

Re: Data General AViiON AV300D docs?

2019-09-28 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
One thing I’ve done is dump the ROMs in my two AV300D. They’re identical except for the last 4 bytes, which I suspect is where their host/Ethernet ID comes from. Unfortunately while the ROM is a JEDEC 1Mbit part, my dump doesn’t look coherent, in that there’s no simple ASCII text like appears

Re: HP vintage boards being sold as scrap

2019-09-27 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Sep 26, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote: > > 3. Just because you have different opinions doesn't mean their ways are > wrong. Hell, they even seem to be willing to work with people interested in > single boards. I'm sure they're putting "GOLD!!!" in the title for >

Re: Data General AViiON AV300D docs?

2019-09-24 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Thank you! -- Chris > On Sep 24, 2019, at 7:32 AM, alan--- via cctalk wrote: > > > I mean to add, that view is looking through the machine not the connector. > So with the PSU oriented in it's natural position, that is the pinout of the > solder pin tails coming up through the PSU PCB

Re: Data General AViiON AV300D docs?

2019-09-23 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
I’ve seen that datageneral.uk at least has a pinout for an Eclipse MV SCSI port, which hypothetically might match the AViiON DB-50 SCSI. In the absence of real docs though, who can say? Can you post the AViiON AV300D power supply pinout you’ve figured out? Maybe I can power on my system with a

Data General AViiON AV300D docs?

2019-09-21 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Does anyone have AViiON AV300D or related docs? I got a pair that have bum power supplies and I’m hoping to find something that will makes servicing them easier. After I get them running, I’ll obviously be looking for software. And a pinout for their unique SCSI port, though I hear they can

Re: Pinout for current loop interface

2019-08-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Aug 17, 2019, at 9:14 AM, Charles via cctalk wrote: > I just hate having to make a custom cable for every terminal and computer I > own or work with ;) Ah, but isn’t doing what so many before you have had to part of the charm? :) -- Chris

Re: VCF West?

2019-07-31 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jul 30, 2019, at 11:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Is there a reason why there has been no mention of VCF West? Some of us have been busy trying to prep for it. :) -- Chris

Re: Scanning question (Is destruction of old tech docs a moral crime?)

2019-07-23 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jul 20, 2019, at 8:00 PM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: >> While I agree that making a non-optimal digital copy in such cases, is, >> well, non-optimal (because for _many uses_, the basic information is still >> available, wheras for many important documents, not even that remains), >>

Re: Computer Reset shop, liquidation. (USA)

2019-07-17 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jul 17, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Daniel Seagraves via cctalk wrote: > This. People on the internet are insane. I have gotten literal death threats > for refusing to sell keyboards. People threatening to find my home address > and do things about my “hoarding”. I should never have said a goddamn

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Evan Koblentz via cctalk wrote: > > Today I can announce that 10 original Apple 1 computers will be displayed at > VCF West, and we're working on getting more. Why? That is, what’s the advantage of having 10+ instead of one or two? The Apple I never did very much,

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