[cctalk] Re: DECnet to be dropped from Linux

2022-08-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 2 Aug 2022 at 21:56, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > > Does dropping Decnet mean the the commercial versions like Redhat and any > others that you pay support for will also lose Decnet? When they eventually upgrade to that or later versions of the kernel: yes. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile:

[cctalk] DECnet to be dropped from Linux

2022-08-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-DECnet-2022-Removal https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220731190646.97039-1-step...@networkplumber.org/ -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~ Skype:

Re: Xerox 800 Word Processor 1974 promo film

2022-07-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 at 10:10, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > Actually I knew them only as Rank Xerox many years ago, when they were > commonly known as office suppliers, e.g. photo copiers and printers. Ditto. I think this may be another of those US/rest-of-world things. To this Brit,

Lisp machine PCBs

2022-04-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
A chap I know -- not on the list -- has some old LispM bits that he would like to find good homes for. Quote: « LISP Machine boards - attached are a couple of pictures of the two sizes of boards we have. The smaller boards are two ESDI "paddles" and two console boards. The larger boards are six

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 19:11, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > Back in the 90s, we bought these things by the carton, modified them to > work with Japanese DOS 2.0 format (PC98) 3.5" floppies, rewrote the > drivers, added a VxD for Win3.1 compatibility and sold a bunch of them. > Popular with

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 13:44, Liam Proven wrote: > 5¼": > https://www.amazon.com/MICRO-SOLUTION-1-44MB-Backpack-Parallel/dp/B512MS Oops, sorry, badly-chosen link. Both of those are, of course, 3½ drives. The company *did* also offer 5¼" units, though, as did others...

Re: PCI floppy controller

2022-04-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 01:48, Charles Dickman via cctalk wrote: > > Were there ever any floppy controllers for the (parallel) PCI bus? Floppy *controllers*, no. Floppy *drives*, yes. The Backpack range were the most well-known, I'd say. e.g. 5¼":

Re: Looking for Atari Mega ST peripherals

2022-04-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 at 03:42, Ryan Eisworth via cctalk wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'm looking for a keyboard and mouse for a Mega ST. Please contact me if you > have either available. I'm in Texas, USA, 77833. I have a keyboard. Possible snag: I live in Prague, Czechia. -- Liam Proven ~

Re: Glass memory?

2022-04-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 at 00:34, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > And, as you say, an Arduino or a Pi that fits in my pocket is orders > of magnitude more powerful and costs pocket money. The comparisons of size, power, storage, cost, power usage, heat output and so on are often made. What is

Re: Looking for computer and individual to read old floppy disks

2022-03-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 at 22:38, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > I could do it, but I'm a little squeezed for time and energy right now. > > Spending my mornings under the LINAC. Oh no. :-( Very sorry to hear that. I hope it's worth it and it works! (So far they've got 'em all early, but had

Re: 11/83 operating system load update -2

2022-02-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 19:04, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > Maybe for Win95, but Win98 and later uses its own 32-bit port drivers > (I'm not certain about 95 OSR2). 98 and 98SE are still loaded from DOS and you can shut down and exit to DOS again too, if you know how. There's no functional

Re: 11/83 operating system load update -2

2022-02-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 15:50, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > I think you're unnecessarily limiting your options by refusing to use Linux, > which as we've pointed out is something you can do on your existing PC > without overwriting the OS that is on it now. I agree. The same thought

Re: Origin of "partition" in storage devices

2022-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 at 14:50, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > > With contemporary ATA hard disks (and also SCSI disks) obviously the > opposite was the case, due to the ZBR sector mapping scheme. Zone bit recording? > The outer > cylinders had the fastest transfer speeds. Ah, OK. Also bearing in

Re: Origin of "partition" in storage devices

2022-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 at 10:14, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: > Of course, doing it that way has many disadvantages, not least the > fragmentation issue (which was the root cause of much periodic slowdown > on Windows machines in the mid 00's), but also the overheads involved > with transferring

Re: simulation of an entire IBM S/360 Model 50 mainframe

2022-01-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 17:20, Guy N. via cctalk wrote: > > This might be old news to a lot of people here, but I noticed a fun > article on The Register today: Oh cool. Thanks for the link -- that's one of my stories. Glad to hear people enjoyed it. :-) -- Liam Proven ~ Profile:

Re: Compaq Portable brightness knob

2022-01-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 07:28, David Griffith via cctalk wrote: > > Would someone please suggest a replacement for the Compaq Portable's > brightness knob? This was missing on mine when I got it. 3D print one? -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~

Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 12:00, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > > Get a LACK table from IKEA (€6.99) Speaking of LACK, I guess most people might know this, but it's the same size as a standard 19" rack and can be used to hold rackmount kit. https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack This may be

Re: AOL diskettes

2022-01-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 at 16:59, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > (BTW, trying to contact IKEA to get it sorted was very much like trying to > contact Google except that Google doesn't have sacrificial call centre workers > in a different country to intercept the complaints and lose them, Google

Re: OT: looking for help remembering name/info about security bug

2022-01-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 07:04, Stan Sieler via cctalk wrote: > > Somewhere between 4 and 6 years ago (I think), there was a fairly major > security bug reported (probably in Linux, or in SSH code, but > something widely used). Too vague. I think you need to narrow it down. Heartbleed, Spectre,

Re: Women of Computing

2021-12-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 at 16:09, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/4/21 12:37, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > > > > OK, Boomer. > > > There's really no call to be nasty about it. > > To those of us who are baby boomers, that usage is extremely offensive. I suspect that was the plan. Chris

Re: The precarious state of classic software and hardware preservation

2021-11-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 at 03:30, Ian McLaughlin via cctalk wrote: > > New owners of LCM? I thought Vulcan was the owner all along? His younger sister Jody used to be the deputy at Vulcan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jody_Allen She left in 2014:

Re: Electronika MC 0511

2021-11-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 at 00:08, Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk wrote: > > I just received my UKNC from what was Czechoslovakia. Made in 1990 it > was dirty but otherwise in good shape. I need to install an alternate > power supply as the Soviet one requires 220volts and has a wierd plug. > > Anyone

Re: Terminal Emulator for Android

2021-11-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 at 22:07, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > Juicessh ap for android has telnet. I use it for my vax boxes. Seconded. I almost never use SSH from Android, but JuiceSSH is my go-to for the once-in-a-blue-moon occasion. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven

Re: FTGH Various DLT and 4mm DAT Drives - Midlands UK

2021-10-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 06:38, James Attfield via cctalk wrote: > > I’m having a general clear out and the following are free for the collection > rather than they go in the skip/dumpster. You haven't said where you are. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email:

Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 85, Issue 3

2021-10-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 22:33, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > That is a DIFFERENT "Fred" 藍 Miser at miser.net? Still sounds pretty grumpy, though... -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk ~ gMail/gTalk/FB: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/LinkedIn: lproven ~

Re: Terminal Emulator

2021-10-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 3 Oct 2021 at 11:19, Ali via cctalk wrote: > Procomm was the first terminal program I used that was easy to understand and > work with. Oh my, yes, agreed. *So* much easier than Crosstalk or most of the other DOS biggies. -- Liam Proven ~ Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email:

Re: Found my favorite DOS editor

2021-10-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 2 Oct 2021 at 08:46, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote: > > In the late eighties I used to use E, an editor developed internally at IBM. > My dad had retired from there by then but got it from > ex-colleagues. I see you can get it from here now >

Re: Found my favorite DOS editor

2021-10-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 15:06, Adrian Graham wrote: > On 1 Oct 2021, at 12:58, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: >> >> Discontinued some years ago, sadly. > > Yes, and instead they made BBEdit free for the most part. That’s what I’m > using. Still got TextWrangler on the old

Re: Found my favorite DOS editor

2021-10-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 05:03, Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk wrote: > For the Mac, there is TextWrangler (free version > of BBEdit), with many useful capabilities (such as editing a remote file > via an sftp:// URL, for example). Discontinued some years ago, sadly. -- Liam Proven ~

Re: Found my favorite DOS editor

2021-09-30 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 30 Sept 2021 at 08:29, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On the west coast, we were doing our initial development on a VAX > 11/750, but at some point I asked the folks back in St. Paul what they > were using for an editor. OGNATE! I was dumbfounded--you see, the > ETA-10 has many fewer

Re: Found my favorite DOS editor

2021-09-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 20:25, ben via cctalk wrote: > I like TERSE for dos. A 4096 byte sized editor for DOS. > 64Kb files only, but good for editing from a floppy > when we had them. Still can be found on the web. > Ben. That is really quite impressive!

Re: Found my favorite DOS editor

2021-09-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 06:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Writing to the video memory was the simplest and most straightforward way > to do it "*Real* programmers use a magnetized needle and a steady hand." https://xkcd.com/378/ -- Liam Proven • Profile: https://about.me/liamproven

Re: Found my favorite DOS editor

2021-09-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 01:47, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > > Control-C, Control-X & Control-P for copy, cut and paste in Windows 11 > dates back to Wordstar on 8-Bit CPM systems in the 80s. No they didn't. They came from the Mac:

Re: Found my favorite DOS editor

2021-09-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 01:37, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > I confess to having Wordstar so thoroughly burned into my reflexes It was once, yes. I got better. But now: http://wordtsar.ca/ > that > I still use joe under linux. Tilde FTW. https://os.ghalkes.nl/tilde > Let's not forget

Re: Found my favorite DOS editor

2021-09-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 00:41, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Can EMACS be expanded enough to emulate VI? https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/emacs-evil-mode/ > Can VI be expanded enough to emulate EMACS? https://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=300 There's something almost poetic in

Re: Found my favorite DOS editor

2021-09-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 23:55, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > > Fred Cisin said "'course, then there are the MAJOR religious battles. > Such as VI VS EMACS." > > I cannot agree more. I know many people who live in VI thought I cannot > fathom why. I worked at Red Hat briefly and SUSE for more

Re: An American perspective on the late great Sir Clive Sinclair, from Fast Company

2021-09-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 17:45, John Many Jars wrote: > > I had a TI 99/4 when I was a kid. It was my first computer (although I used > my friend's Apple ][ much more). > > All I can say is, what a piece of garbage. It was horrible in every way, and > it overheated if you left it on too long.

Re: An American perspective on the late great Sir Clive Sinclair, from Fast Company

2021-09-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 22:05, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > > I went and looked up the numbers. A 1983 Fiat Panda was £3k (list). At the > same time, the C64 was selling for £345. So it's an order-of-magnitude out, > but still a formidable sum of money: a factory-new rustbucket (e.g. Renault

Re: An American perspective on the late great Sir Clive Sinclair, from Fast Company

2021-09-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 22:49, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > > I think that it is truly tragic about the price gouging. Strongly agreed. The TI-99/4A wasn't a great computer, with foolish design compromises, but it was driven out of the market by unfair pricing. The Amiga was a superior

Re: An American perspective on the late great Sir Clive Sinclair, from Fast Company

2021-09-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 22:14, Yeechang Lee via cctech wrote: > > This was true in more wealthy countries outside the US, too. Sinclair never > got anywhere in Germany compared to Commodore, for example. This may be true; I work for a German company but I've never lived there. I know

Re: Programming Bipolar PROMs

2021-09-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 17:23, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > While restoring and repairing a Data General Nova 2/10 I found a bad > bipolar PROM on the CPU board. Maybe it was just feeling depressed this week. Try it again next week and you might find it works... maybe even really fast?

Re: Linux and the 'clssic' computing world

2021-09-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 16:07, Joshua Rice via cctalk wrote: > > and i'd rather prefer that this mailing list didn't fall for the same > petty bickering that can be found across the internet. +1 to that! -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk –

Re: Linux and the 'clssic' computing world

2021-09-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 15:55, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > > even though WIN 11 is much more secure than previous Windows > versions [[Citation needed]] ;-) There still are more choices than people realise. I sometimes play around with Haiku. It's getting there and is quite usable

Re: An American perspective on the late great Sir Clive Sinclair, from Fast Company

2021-09-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 13:38, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > > From the other side of that, growing up in the UK, nobody I knew talked > about Apple or Atari, and Commodore was only on the radar because of the > C64's capability as a games machine (and later the Amiga) - I don't think I >

Re: An American perspective on the late great Sir Clive Sinclair, from Fast Company

2021-09-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 27 Sept 2021 at 03:44, Bill Degnan wrote: > > My girlfriend commented to me that Americans don't understand London"s Fleet > Street scene of the 70's and early 80s and how Sinclair products were > represented there. In the US the "Timex Sinclair TS-1000" was a budget $99 > computer

An American perspective on the late great Sir Clive Sinclair, from Fast Company

2021-09-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
I found this interesting for perspective. The British media (and AFAICS of Australia, New Zealand and several bits of Europe) have been saturated with coverage of a much-loved, widely-celebrated and revered hero of tech. As FC points out, even the American _tech_ media barely noticed. « The

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 18:28, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Not true. HP still owns it. VSI is licensed to continue development, > nothing more. HPE no longer cares about VMS and the Hobbyist Program > has ended. VSI has a Hobbyist type program but it does not cover VAX. I sit

Re: Setting up a VMS system

2021-09-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 14:21, Philip Pemberton via cctalk wrote: > I'm thinking of using SIMH, unless there's a better emulator available. I like VMS but I can't claim much expertise, unfortunately. I have sysadminned a few boxes, but never brought one up from scratch. However I did

Re: Data General Terminal Question

2021-09-21 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 21 Sept 2021 at 19:06, Mike Nealey via cctalk wrote: > > Hi! > > Sorry for the slow reply. I have attached some pictures of the terminal. > Thanks for your help!! It looks like you may be new to mailing lists. You should bottom-post -- i.e. your reply goes _underneath_ the trimmed text

Re: C.mmp OS

2021-08-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 at 21:48, Eric Smith wrote: > > At USENIX conferences, at some point the "sex, drugs, and Unix" buttons gave way to "condoms, aspirin, and POSIX" buttons. > :-(  -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts:

Re: C.mmp OS

2021-08-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 23:42, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > >> The answer to the question is Hydra I believe. > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > But since you are not replying to anything, we don't know what the > > question _was_ ... >

Re: C.mmp OS

2021-08-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 17:53, Mark Kahrs via cctech wrote: > > The answer to the question is Hydra I believe. But since you are not replying to anything, we don't know what the question _was_ ... -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk –

Re: Linearizing PDF scans

2021-08-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 at 23:21, Wayne Sudol via cctech wrote: > > Out of curiosity, is there a reason you do not use Acrobat for creating > pdfs? I have been making PDFs for at least 20 years now, probably more. AFAIK I have _never_ used Acrobat to create them. I print from LibreOffice to its PDF

Europe-based restorer of old mechanical keyboards?

2021-08-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
I am not a collector exactly -- I just salvaged a bunch when they were being sent to recycling. My Model Ms are going strong, no bolt mod needed, but I also have 2 Apple Extended II and an Extended I and both, sadly, need some attention. I am almost devoid of electronics skills. Does anyone know

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 04:21, Tony Aiuto via cctalk wrote: > > I would argue that this is totally wrong. iOS, Which is a Unix. Derived from Mac OS X, which is an Open Group certified UNIX™. > Android A Linux distro. > and other mobile > systems, QNX as in Blackberry 10? A Unix. Jolla

Re: Ian Hirschsohn - DISSPLA, Superset Inc. and sad news

2021-08-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 at 07:56, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote: > Well, he is dead I find out, killed last year in Mexico is what the news > says, buried in a well with his wife. They went often, many times a year.

Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-07-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
This was a talk at a recent Chaos Computer Club congress: https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-525180-what_have_we_lost#t=1707 « We have ended up in a world where UNIX and Windows have taken over, and most people have never experienced anything else. Over the years, though, many other system designs have

Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s

2021-07-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 at 02:29, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 7/26/21 5:36 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > I got it down to 14MB and it would, just barely, boot from the 16MB > > SSD, although you could barely do anything as there was almost no > > free d

Re: Inventory (was Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s)

2021-07-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 at 19:52, Kevin Anderson via cctalk wrote: > > Here is an inventory of what I have for parts that I am desiring to pass on > to others if they are interested or to seek permission to pitch to an > electronics recycler (or rubbish bin) if these things are of limited value >

Re: Microsoft OSs (was: Install Floppies)

2021-07-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 at 18:41, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > Talk about a chicken and egg / priming problem. How do you get the > CD-ROM drivers off of the CD-ROM that you need a driver to access. ;-) > The quintessential answer is to have (access to) another system (or > driver) assist.

Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s

2021-07-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 at 01:29, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 7/23/21 11:23 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > Win95: 13 disks. > > That's fewer than I remember. > > Though, Windows 3.1 was 6 disks and Windows for Workgroups 3.11 was 8 > disks. That was on top

Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s

2021-07-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 at 18:56, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > If memory serves, that mass of floppies was dwarfed by Windows 95, > particularly later versions. Win95: 13 disks. Win98: 38 disks. Netware 3.1: can't remember... lots: http://www.os2museum.com/wp/diskette-puzzle/ Ha! Trying to

Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s

2021-07-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 at 14:55, Christian Groessler via cctalk wrote: > > I think Compaq was the first company to offer a 386 PC back then (before > IBM). > > I remember, when I worked as a student at MBB around 1988, that we > visited another department (just next door) to see the Compaq 386 they

Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s

2021-07-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 at 01:25, Christian Groessler via cctalk wrote: > > My boss back in 90/91 or so bought a Compaq 386SX desktop. The 386SX was > at the low end back then already, but the keyboard which came with it > was top-notch! > > Forget early IBM PC keyboards. This Compaq keyboard had the

Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s

2021-07-21 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 19:51, r.stricklin via cctech wrote: > > > Regarding your "IDE HDDs were extremely rare" comment, did *anyone* other > > than Quantum release an IDE drive in that 5.25" form factor? I can't think > > of any, everything else was 3.5", although some early vendor's drives

Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s

2021-07-21 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 18:00, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > > I suspect there are more people restoring ISA systems than PCI systems. > But that's probably a matter of time. True. What I was thinking of was the relatively narrow gap between PCI systems starting to appear and most of them

Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s

2021-07-21 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 16:32, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > > Not quite answering the question you asked, but optical drives from 15-25 > years ago are 5.25" IDE devices. If one were inclined to be _excessively_ persnickety, one could say that they were ATAPI devices, which in turn implies

Re: Compaq Deskpro boards/hard drives from the late 1990s

2021-07-21 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 at 20:11, Kevin Anderson via cctalk wrote: > But at the same time I also acquired (pulled) from these same computers and > their siblings a whole bunch of wired Ethernet network cards I _think_ ISA ones are in more demand these days. > one or two video cards, PCI? > a

Re: RP/M2 by Micro Methods Inc

2021-07-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 18 Jul 2021 at 07:52, Ali via cctalk wrote: >> I found a copy of RP/M2 for the IBM PC by Micro Methods Inc. with manual >> and some floppies, 8" and 5.25". According to the manual, this was a >> CP/M compatible operating system. > David, Did you see the article on page 94:

Re: INFAPLUG LAN

2021-06-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 at 00:31, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > Would you mind sharing link(s) to said conversation? It sounds like one > I'd like to learn from / maybe be part of. Would appear to be: https://twitter.com/BinaryDinosaurs/status/1407993695006232579 Twitter has a search

Re: VT340 Emulation

2021-06-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 19:15, Douglas Taylor via cctech wrote: > > Does anyone have experience with the Reflection software that will > emulate a DEC VT340 color graphics terminal? I did try Reflection waaa back in the day, possibly around 1990 or so. It worked, but I had no need of graphics

Re: VAXstation 4000/vlc mouse issue

2021-06-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 at 05:08, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > > I now have my VAXstation 4000/vlc up and running OpenVMS 7.3, DECnet Phase > IV, and part of my cluster. It’s using a SCSI2SD v5.2 board for the hard > drive. While have plenty of DEC Hard Drives, I like the lower noise, power, >

Re: Motor generator

2021-05-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 16:13, Paul Koning wrote: > > I suppose APL might come closest, but it's hardly mainstream. > > No reason why it couldn't be. It's the same age as C, so why not? :-) I think because for lesser minds, such as mine, it's line noise. A friend of mine, a Perl guru, studied

Re: Motor generator

2021-05-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 02:19, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > > I seem to recall an anecdote about Acorn hooking up the first prototype > ARM-1 processor and it working, despite showing no current draw on the > connected ammeter - it then transpired that the power supply was still > switched

Re: That VAXStation4000vlc 3W3 video connector

2021-05-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 17:59, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: > I, for one, did find this helpful - one could make one of these up to > test before possibly forking over the funds to build one properly. If anyone were up to making a small batch of these, I'd be happy to pay for a few, plus shipping

Re: That VAXStation4000vlc 3W3 video connector

2021-05-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 4 May 2021 at 07:50, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: > > Kindest regards, > > Doug Jackson > > em: d...@doughq.com > ph: 0414 986878 > > Check out my awesome clocks at www.dougswordclocks.com > Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net > >

Re: FTAG: AlphaServer DS15, Sun T5140, Sun Blade 10, HP Proliant DL380 G7, VT220 [London, UK]

2021-04-21 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 14:27, Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk wrote: > > Hello all again, > > With a heavy heart I need to find a new home for the following beautiful > hardware: > > - AlphaServer DS15 server > - Sun SPARC Enterprise T5140 1U rack server > - Sun Blade 10 mini tower > - HP

Re: Looking for VAXSET Software Engineering Tools for VMS 4.x

2021-04-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 17 Apr 2021 at 20:35, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > ddrescue Agreed. Important note: `ddrescue` is the newer tool and is more modern than either `dd_rescue` or `gddrescue`. They are *NOT* the same tools under different names. GNU ddrescue or just `ddrescue` It is the preferred choice

Re: Anyone know ancient versions of XLC?

2021-04-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 18:57, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: > I've used FrameMaker a lot...it's great for handling large documents and > collections of documents. Used it quite a bit at IBM and handled 1000+ > page documents (of course that wasn't all one "source" file). ISTM that for DTP,

Re: Anyone know ancient versions of XLC?

2021-04-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 16:00, Stefan Skoglund wrote: > > Ha, on my debian system i get more memory available when instead of > gnome i instead run e. E as in Enlightenment? I can believe that. I quite liked Bodhi Linux for its take on E, but E is not as configurable as I'd like. E.g. I like a

Re: Anyone know ancient versions of XLC?

2021-04-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 18:44, Kevin Bowling wrote: > > Linux tends to churn that amount of code in a release. I find it interesting > how large systemd has become as well: > https://www.theregister.com/2020/01/06/linux_2020_kernel_systemd_code/ I didn't know but I can well believe it.

Re: Anyone know ancient versions of XLC?

2021-04-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 15:10, David Schmidt via cctech wrote: > > On 4/12/21 1:00 PM, Liam Proven wrote: > >> AIX 3.2.5 was so much leaner and meaner than 4.x that came along next... > >> I never did warm up to it the same way. > > > > Twas ever thus, no? > > A universal truth. > > > I remember

Re: Anyone know ancient versions of XLC?

2021-04-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 at 19:46, David Schmidt via cctech wrote: > > AIX 3.2.5 was so much leaner and meaner than 4.x that came along next... > I never did warm up to it the same way. Twas ever thus, no? I remember an ad campaign for AIX when it was quite new... "We took UNIX and added millions of

Video presentations on 2 interesting OSes for vintage kit

2021-04-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Minerva and SMSQ/E, both related to Sinclair QDOS, the original OS for the Sinclair QL. https://youtu.be/yU0ptNyNqcI And EmuTOS, a FOSS recreation of Atari TOS & GEM, which reached v1.0 about 6 months ago. https://youtu.be/eqrM4TE5jTM I knew about the 1st 2, but this video taught me a lot.

Re: Hard To Believe This Person Is Serious

2021-03-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 21:11, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > > Shirley this thread has run its course already I just wanted to tell you, good luck. We're all counting on you. -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts:

Re: VCF Swap Meet in Wall, NJ

2021-03-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 05:39, Tony Aiuto via cctalk wrote: > > That sounds like um, I think the technical term is, a big pain in the butt. Look, TBH, sorry to be That Guy, but what it sounds like is made-up mumbo-jumbo with as much basis in science as saying his choler is too low and phlegm and

Re: 80286 Protected Mode Test

2021-03-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 19:37, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: > > At the time I was fairly familiar with the LOADALL instruction. I had > modified PC/AT Xenix to use the LOADALL instruction to allow for running > Xenix programs and multiple DOS programs simultaneously. Incidentally, I believe

Re: 80286 Protected Mode Test

2021-03-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 at 19:37, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: > There were many heated discussions in various task forces (this was of > course IBM) about the next generation OS (to become OS/2) about the > '286. First and foremost was how to be able to run DOS programs on the > '286. Over very

Re: digital group's Richard Bemis

2021-03-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021 at 16:00, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: > > No, he means "The Digital Group". It was a microcomputer company in the > 1975-1979 time frame. > > http://bytecollector.com/the_digital_group.htm > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Digital_Group Thanks for the

Re: digital group's Richard Bemis

2021-03-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 05:23, Brad H via cctalk wrote: > > Hi there, > > I am working on a 30 minute historical video about the digital group. [Spelling out my thought process] "the digital group" -- so he means Digital Equipment Corporation. Never heard them called a "group" but fine. > when

Re: Wanted: Info on Optisys/Optidisk WORM file system

2021-02-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 21:12, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > > My partner passed away about 2 weeks ago and would possibly have > recalled who it was, but can't ask now. I'll try a scan of our contact > files and see if "opti" anything shows up. Oh, I am sorry to hear that. My condolences.

Re: OT: pints, pounds (Was: APL\360

2021-02-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 21:07, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > That is what it MEANS. > But, it's not quite right. It's off by about 4%. > A US pint of water weighs 1.043 pounds. > One "fluid ounce" (volume) of water weighs 1.043 ounces (weight)! Close enough for government work. With all the

Re: APL\360

2021-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 20:00, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > I had always been told, "A pint is a pound, the world around." Aha! Does that mean a pint of water weighs 1lb? Interesting. I did not know. > I had already assumed that pub prices had inflated to higher than a pound. It was under

Re: APL\360

2021-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 30 Jan 2021 at 02:56, dwight via cctalk wrote: > I constantly see people claiming how much better decimal is than the English > system of meassurment. Um. I am a native English speaker, as well as an English citizen, and I count in decimal. Do you mean metric (SI / Systeme

Re: APL\360

2021-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 22:14, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > such as 42 > WHATDOYOUGETWHENYOUMULTIPLYSIXBYNINE  -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/LinkedIn/Flickr: lproven – Skype:

Re: APL\360

2021-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 10:34, Tor Arntsen via cctalk wrote: > > Some sheep herders in (IIRC) the Caucasus do, or did at least. I > learned about that some decades ago. Counting sheep on their fingers. > I use the system sometimes. Fred Pohl's short story "Digits and Dastards" explains it well. I

Re: Epson QX-10 hard drive

2021-02-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 at 19:36, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > > Greetings > > I recently purchased a QCS external hard disk on ebay. This was one of the > companies that was selling DEC Rainbow hard drives. I had hoped it was an > old Rainbow drive with interesting to me bits... Turns out it is

Re: UNIVAC

2021-01-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 15:20, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > Ah yes, radium. You'll get my original R-390/URR meters when you pry > them from my cold, dead, glowing hands. Relevant (& from a list member): "My vintage vacuum tubes are radio-active!"

Re: APL\360

2021-01-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 13:11, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > > It is *also* the use of symbols. Firstly, some people are just symbol-blind > and prefer stuff spelled out in words. It's just how brains are wired. Agreed. I submit this is also why some people find Lisp (and perhaps Forth and

Re: 50 free 8 inch floppies!

2021-01-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 at 03:54, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > > I'm offering > these disks for free. > > So if you need 50 disks with various versions of RT11 and god knows what > data on them or 50 frisbees let me know and they're yours for the cost > of shipping. I need to either pitch these

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