Re: APL\360

2021-01-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 17:50, Liam Proven wrote: > So I resubbed online and now I get it again. providing that warm > comforting sensation of intellects vast and cool, as immeasurably > superior to my own as mine is to that of the transient creatures that > swarm and multiply in a drop of water.

Re: APL\360

2021-01-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 17:44, Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote: > > APL is still a going concern in a few places Oh, definitely. I subscribed to the British APL Association's newsletter from an advert in UK magazine PCW in the 1980s and continued to get its publication, _Vector_, for over 20Y.

Re: APL\360

2021-01-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 17:21, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote: > > In 1999, a fellow student in a UML course worked for a large information > company (Reuters, I think?) and told me that they had embarked on an > expensive s/w conversion project. Their back-end systems were > implemented in APL

Re: Rod Coleman's personal history of founding, building & running SAGE

2021-01-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 17:42, Bill Degnan wrote: > > Agreed. > > A fully provisioned IBM PC / XT in 1981-4 was pretty expensive too, that's > why 8-bit machines continued to sell well into the later 80's. 16-bit was > overkill for most home needs. Apple would not have survived the 80's

Re: Rod Coleman's personal history of founding, building & running SAGE

2021-01-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 15:35, emanuel stiebler wrote: > > I guess we have to be careful, comparing machines & CPUs. > 68000 came out as a CPU in 1980/1981 (available on the market (?)) > > You're comparing it to a ARM2 machine of 1987, where Motorola had the > newer 68020, and 68030 by than ...

Re: APE - ALTAIR peripheripheral emulator

2021-01-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 03:07, jwest--- via cctalk wrote: > > (not to be confused with the other APE, for Atari)? There's also an Apricot emulator by that name: https://ai.ansible.uk/ape.html from https://ai.ansible.uk/freebies.html Plan 9 has an APE too...

Re: Rod Coleman's personal history of founding, building & running SAGE

2021-01-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 03:53, Boris Gimbarzevsky wrote: > > Ran into 68000 processor for > first time in 1986 when my father bought a 512 K > Mac and couldn't believe performance of this CPU It is odd. I had read of it, of course, but for me the revelation was getting an Acorn Archimedes in

Rod Coleman's personal history of founding, building & running SAGE

2021-01-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
This may be old news -- it was new to me, though. https://suddendisruption.blogspot.com/search/label/Booting%20Sage%20Computer I'm not really familiar with SAGE machines. They were not as well-known in the UK, I think, being upmarket from the Apple ][ and IBM PC, both of which were

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 at 00:29, Nemo Nusquam via cctalk wrote: > > Thank you both for your information but I am still mystified as to why > Gmail marks Google alerts (from Google!) as spam. That is particularly amusing/irritating, yes. I have 3 or 4 connected accounts -- AOL, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc.

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 23:50, Bill Degnan wrote: > > Liam, > As I said I can set up a filter but that does not really solve the problem it > compensates for it in the cctalk world only. OK, that's fair. If I stuck a finger in the air and guesstimated, I'd say about 95% of my email is filtered,

Re: Emails going to spam folder in gmail

2020-12-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 23:12, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > Hi, > I have noticed the same email addresses' messages routinely end up in the > spam folder of gmail. I have 2 nested folders (labels/tags/whatever) in Gmail: classiccmp/talk and classiccmp/tech. In my rule which filters messages

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 21:23, geneb wrote: > > Hopefully Cancel Moose can return too. :) http://cm.org/ ...? -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/LinkedIn/Flickr: lproven – Skype: liamproven

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 17:46, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > Do it yourself HEART surgery??!!?? Yikes! As close as I've heard of: (1 b pic but not for the squeamish) https://web.archive.org/web/20121107053510/http://www.doctorross.co.za/antarctica/self-operation-tracking-down-a-good-story

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 18:20, geneb wrote: > > > That would be glorious. :) Looks like it's happened. https://www.big-8.org/wiki/Board_members https://events.opensuse.org/conferences/oSLO/program/proposals/3028 -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk –

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 17:12, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > What's Livejournal? :-o It was one of the first free blogging sites, before WordPress or Blogger or the like. It has a number of forks, one of which is extant and alive: Dreamwidth. It's the site that memcached was written for.

Re: WTB: CompuPro / Godbout RAM 17

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 21:31, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Other than "Buy It Now" I have pretty much given up on > ebay. Never had luck selling anything and very seldom > had any luck winning a bid. Got better ways to waste > my time. If you _really_ want something that is _not_ BIN,

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 01:02, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > > USENET is still around. But much like the rest of the infinite groups, it's > not where everybody is. Sigh. True. In fact a colleague of mine at $DAYJOB is trying to resurrect the Big 8 committee and get some active management

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 20:09, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: > > This is one of the reasons why I miss good old USENET - with a public list > of groups, and a clear hierarchy. I was thinking exactly the same thing. -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email:

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 10:35, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: > > Seems to be the usual FB problem - too many similar groups. :) How do you mean? Has it already appeared in some I'm not in? It's nothing new. 15y ago or something, there were umpteen Communities on Livejournal for any

Re: misc stuff - free

2020-12-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 22:52, Don Stalkowski via cctalk wrote: > > I'm listing this stuff just in case someone is desperate for > any of it. Would you like me to post these lists on the Facebook vintage-computer collectors' groups for you, Don? I can suitably anonymise your email, if you

Perkins-Elmer 3600 and PETOS

2020-12-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Does anyone know anything much about this early desktop computer and its OS? Example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Perkin-Elmer-3600-PETOS-Like-Microsoft-BASIC-Computer-6800-CPU-Works-/303540134722 Although it predated the PC, MS supplied the BASIC and apparently the CLI resembles early DOS. I ask

Re: Atari ST diskettes

2020-12-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 at 12:28, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > > Well, I guess for some anything that does not require you to toggle in > the boot loader or doesn't have a teletype console terminal is surely too > modern to even consider. :-D One of the things I enjoy about this group is that some of

Anyone want some LMI Lisp Machine tapes?

2020-12-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
https://www.ebay.de/itm/254795423667 €1 « LISP MACHINE INC 1/2" Reel Tapes Anyone who opens this auction will know what this is - and how unique these tapes are. The lot is consisting of 13 tapes, which are labeled as follows: LMI FORTRAN 77 #1352- LMI Release 2.0 two tapes LMI Boot / SDU

Re: Atari ST diskettes

2020-12-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 22:36, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > > I found a box of 45 Atari ST diskettes in my basement, from my 1980's > 520 ST (or maybe my brother's 1040 ST). > > I don't have a floppy drive, so I can't tell whether they're readable. > > Some are originals, for example for 1St

Re: NEC NEAX IVS2 PBX with NEAXMAIL AD-8 - hard drive clone, issues

2020-11-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 28 Nov 2020 at 23:33, keith--- via cctalk wrote: > > Hi Liam, > > As stated in my OP, I was using Windows 10 and USB adapters. *Goes back and re-reads* Ah, OK. I did not follow before. I think Windows is a really poor choice for this. Worse, it might have tried to mount the filesystem

Re: NEC NEAX IVS2 PBX with NEAXMAIL AD-8 - hard drive clone issues

2020-11-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 01:32, keith--- via cctalk wrote: > I have tried to copy it to an industrial CF > card but no luck. I have used Rufus, Active Disk Image, and Macrium > Reflect. First question: how did you try to copy it? You've not given us anywhere near enough info to try to

Re: evil thing to ask but I need keystroke logger

2020-11-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 13:19, Doug Jackson via cctalk wrote: > > Have you considered asking them what they are doing? As my only offspring is only 1y old, [a] I'm not too worried and [b] it would elicit no coherent response. However I've been doing my research and I am given to believe that

Re: Regional accents and dialects (Was: The best hard drives??

2020-11-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 17:58, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > As an American, I think Hugh Laurie and Bob Hoskins have quite > acceptable American accents AIUI, most people do. I think it's just to their countrymen that they sound artificial. > as does Jamie Bamber (Lee "Apollo" Adama > in Battlestar

Re: Regional accents and dialects (Was: The best hard drives??

2020-11-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 21:20, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > And the machines that Calcomp made (570, etc.) were called "plodders" I am well-used to that one; I think all Brits are, from TV and cinema. (Aside: it is amusing to me, at least, that some British actors succeeded in Hollywood or

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 17:15, Diane Bruce wrote: > > My expat FIL was from Lancs. Good part is I learned how to make a decent pot > of tea. The bad is, I couldn't understand him half the time. Being from Lancashire myself, I can't see the problem, but the rest of the UK regards us as

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 04:21, Tapley, Mark B. via cctalk wrote: > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk > mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: > > Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise > for using that nickname. :-( >

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 at 02:53, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Most of us "merkens" haven't truly mastered one language. I was very surprised to discover a couple of years ago that many in the USA pronounce "squirrel" as "skwerl". My surprise was subsequently pushed to its limits when I

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy > from overseas. Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise for using that nickname. :-( -- Liam Proven – Profile:

Re: The best hard drives??

2020-11-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 10:26, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > Five MyBooks bought 18 months ago had debranded He8 disks in there: very nice. > The three Elements a few months back have (non-SMR) WD Reds in them, which is > OK. Three more are supposedly turning up tomorrow. Oh blast, I wish I

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 19:27, Angel M Alganza via cctalk wrote: > Most of them, yes. Then there is K-9 mail for Android, > which almost makes me to not miss Mutt, when using the phone. Which is what I proposed in the first reply, complete with links. -- Liam Proven – Profile:

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 11:31, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: > > That is like asking how do you fix Windows/10 MAIL app. It’s the default, it > sends and receives mail. If you want something that works better and gives > you control then you switch to a supported app. > There is also Outlook

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 00:44, Ali via cctalk wrote: > Any > ideas/suggestions? TIA! https://k9mail.app/ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9=en=US -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts: lpro...@gmail.com

Re: Floppy disk: one drive per face

2020-11-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 21:41, ben via cctalk wrote: > > Is the Author find able? Do he still have 8" floppies? Dude. Really. Pay attention. The author has been posting in this thread. -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts:

Re: AOL CD and other old PC software...

2020-10-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 at 22:48, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 10/15/20 2:32 PM, Kevin Lee wrote: > > Link for the prodigy work please? Seems interesting.. > > Sorry, I don't have a link per say. That's _per se_, BTW. Latin. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/per_se -- Liam Proven – Profile:

Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 73, Issue 13

2020-10-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 at 22:28, Adam Thornton via cctalk wrote: > > I agree that whether a student learns has much more to do with the student > than what in particular they're studying. > > I quit my undergraduate physics degree when I had a moment of clarity that > even if I managed to squeak

Re: Maynard MaynStream

2020-10-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 at 01:08, Van Snyder wrote: > I'll send it for a PDF of a shipping label for a 20" x 10" x 10" 10lb box, > your choice of carrier. That is a very kind offer and I appreciate your generosity, but I think perhaps you mistake what I was trying to say. It's too old to be of

Re: college study

2020-10-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 at 00:19, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Do you want the degree? > Or do you want to LEARN? Fair! Both. > Take a course in your limited "spare time". > Then another. > and another > > I did grad school (UC Berkeley) while teaching full time plus running a > business, and

Re: Maynard MaynStream

2020-10-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 21:51, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: > > I have a Maynard MaynStream tape backup unit from the 1980's. > > It uses audio-format cassettes with 1/4" tape, but it's a different > tape composition, and the cassette has a notch in it to tell the device > it's not just plain

Re: college study

2020-10-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 at 21:17, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > It depends. In sciences, people understand that it's a lot of work. In what > Robert Heinlein called the "fuzzy subjects", you can often be a party animal > who does very little real work and get a degree anyway. If so, it

Re: Concurrent Controls Multiuser DOS

2020-10-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 18:14, Jonathan Haddox via cctalk wrote: > > I'm researching Multiuser DOS out of my own interest. A version made by > Concurrent Controls specifically. However, I have been unable to find > documentation on it to satisfy my curiosity on how it works and how it is >

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-10-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 19:20, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > (For those are are not familiar with Mini-Unix and LSX, they are both V6 Unix > variants lobotomized to run on PDP-11's without memory management: Aha! Like this? https://hackaday.com/2018/06/03/its-unix-on-a-microcontroller/

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-10-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 00:58, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > No, it looks like it uses a different fie-system layout. > > Besides; there's not much point: the big adantage of using V6 is that one can > use the V6 tool-chain to prepare Mini-Unix binaries; XV6 wouldn't allow > that. If all one

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 23:35, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > Good basic idea (using a different system to build on), but there's a > better/easier approach (in the same basic vein): bring up V6, and mount the RK > pack with Mini-Unix on it (it's a V6 file system, so is mountable); V6 is rock

Re: AW: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM?

2020-09-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 18:56, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > > On 9/8/20 6:04 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Date and time of Command.com and any other DOS files will identify the > > version number. Only after DOS 5 or so, I fear. > I've got 11/26/85 on command.com. > > > DIR /A or

Re: NetWare 5.1 / BorderManager 3.5

2020-09-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 06:34, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 9/8/20 7:18 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > I haven't tested that specific ISO. > > The particular ISO that you linked to is Novell NetWare 5.1 (Support > Pack 0). So it needs support packs installed on it. But that's

Re: AW: CGA card (Mitsubishi Electric) with 192K RAM?

2020-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 06:47, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > 1) If the drive is larger than 32MB, then boot with DOs 3.31 or newer. > Although even with the older ones, you can still do quite a bit. 3.31 is > the first where DOS supports a partition larger than 32MB > MS-DOS 5.00 is first where

Re: NetWare 5.1 / BorderManager 3.5

2020-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 08:18, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > Does anyone have any idea where I can get install media at various > support pack levels and / or support pack install files for NetWare 5.1 > and / or BorderManager 3.5? Something like this any help?

Re: Brittle plastic

2020-09-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 11:02, Stefan Skoglund via cctalk wrote: > Textilmuseet (textiles and clothes museum in Borås, Sweden) have a > number of items which was haute couture in the 70s and 80s. Some of > them was done in a plastic which today is basically an awful mess... > > And so they are

Re: Basement Haul

2020-09-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 15:09, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > Unfortunately access to the pictures is restricted, silly of them. Agreed but this is normal for VCFED. I do have an account but I've not used it in years -- the forums are a bit too US-centric for me, and I hate web fora in general.

Re: IBM 3270 compatible terminal connected to Hercules IBM mainframe emulator.

2020-09-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 08:24, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > > I have been working on a project for some time to connect a IBM3270 > compatible Alfaskop terminal with its IBM 3274 compatible cluster > controller to the Hercules mainframe emulator. > > Yesterday I eventually succeeded. I was able

Re: Sun SPARCstation LX boot from CDROM?

2020-09-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 15:33, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > About 70% of the PCB had solder joints that were nice and shiny like brand > new. The remaining section near the front of the drive was quite badly > corroded and it also looked like there was some liquid spilled over that > section of

Re: Looking for an IDE simulator

2020-08-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 at 18:07, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > After having a run of almost half a dozen IDE hard drive failures recently in > a short period of time (on my older desktops which use them, I've decided that > I should see if there's an IDE emulator (using SD cards) SD (and the

Re: Buying and running an IBM PC-XT in 2020

2020-08-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 15:10, Bill Degnan wrote: > > I remember when the IBM XT was too new for a VCF exhibit, back when Sellam > ran shows. I can believe that. I gutted 2 original working PC-ATs in about 1996 for cases for Pentium-class machines. I deeply regret it now but it was 25y ago --

Buying and running an IBM PC-XT in 2020

2020-08-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
I found this blog post quite interesting. I've left what I hope is an informative, helpful comment. I wonder if anyone else here would have more to add? https://www.forsure.dev/-/2020/05/19/640-kilobytes-of-ram-and-why-i-bought-an-ibm-5160/ -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven

Re: SIMH on low overhead platform

2020-08-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 09:43, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > Has SIMH been ported to a low overhead (instant-on) platform? > > I ask the question because the startup time of Linux is distracting when > powering on a PiDP-11/70 or similar clone systems based on SIMH. Not that I know of. I have

Re: Any interest in "newer" hardware, software?

2020-07-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 08:36, Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk wrote: > > Was about to toss a 1987 box containing DOS 3.3 but then figured > someone might want it. Have a couple of XT systems kicking around > somewhere A chap on the FB Vintage Computing group was seriously asking if an original

Re: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 14:09, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > > Funny story about that: In 1990 I installed a Compaq systempro for > Hechinger's that cost over $100,000. I just about remember the SystemPro machines. One of my bigger clients in my first job got one, but they hired a full-time guy

Re: Compaq Smart Array 3200 Controller as a SCSI Controller

2020-07-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 at 22:09, Ali via cctalk wrote: > > > There is no good use case for them in 2020, which is why they're all > > suddenly > > quite cheap. > > Peter, > > Why do you say that? Not disagreeing per se but just wondering the reasoning > behind it. Happily for me I don't do stuff

Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 18:14, Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk wrote: > > Flebay is quite overpriced, sadly ( personal opinion anyway, from the point > of view of someone that's now looking at finding a thing since months and is > fixated about a real price vs an enflated one I often hear comments

Re: IBM System/36 5360 For Sale - Alabama

2020-07-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 04:08, STAN IRWIN via cctalk wrote: > > I recently found an IBM System/36 5360 for sale, with 5251 Terminal and > Keyboard. System is supposed to be in good running condition, taken out of > service in September 2019, single owner. Asking price seems to be about 10k >

Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 at 17:05, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: > > Thanks - good hint. I was a bit surprised to see the prices people are asking > on fleabay. I think I sold my last 2 or 3 before I emigrated for circa €50 each. 5.25" HD floppy drives went for more than that. -- Liam Proven –

Re: About to dump a bunch of Compaq SCSI disk caddies (and disks)

2020-07-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 22:19, Johan Helsingius via cctalk wrote: > > Hi! > > I have a box full of Compaq SCSI server disk caddies (with 9.1G disks in > them). Feels silly to dump them into e-waste recycling, but there > probably isn't much point in shipping them very far either (I am in >

Re: A tool many of you may make find useful!

2020-06-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 22:55, Richard Pope via cctalk wrote: > > Will, > Ultimate Zip is showing that the file is empty. Hum! I have been > using Ultimate Zip for decades. Hum! I wounder what is going on! I've never even heard of this tool before. I looked it up, and

Re: IDE-SD adapter question

2020-06-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 at 02:30, W2HX via cctech wrote: > > Could it be related to the fact that it is a 2GB SD card and I believe IDE > controllers of that day could only address something like 500MB? It could well be, yes. > Should I consider trying to partition the SD card into a 500MB

Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 17:36, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > There are *no* "modern" newsreaders, > apart from the occasional kitchen-sink monstrosity which does nothing well.) There was... https://panic.com/blog/the-future-of-unison/ -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven

Re: Origin of 3-D printing (again)

2020-06-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 07:27, Stan Sieler via cctalk wrote: > > Hi, > > Back in 2017, I posted something about seeing a possible first-ever > reference to the idea of 3-D printing in a 1951 issue of Galaxy Science > Fiction magazine. > > I stumbled over an even earlier one tonight... > > The

Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 11:10, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > Dave -- I suppose the solve is to write it out long hand as in > One Dollar One Cent One Pound... Dear hypothetical deities, no. That causes problems with translation, people not knowing the name of another country's

Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 10:42, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > > I wrote this as one dollar => $1.00 Dollar symbol, one > This as one pound => $1 Dollar symbol, 1 > And this as one euro => €1 Euro symbol, one > Lastly one cent => ¢1 Cent symbol, one Fascinating. -- Liam Proven – Profile:

Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 19:04, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > I do not know, anyone using a text only mail reader anymore! Several of my colleagues at a Prominent German Linux Distributor use Mutt/Neomutt. I don't, I am on Thunderbird and rather like it. -- Liam Proven – Profile:

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 02:15, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > > I would say that was cool. Me too! :-) > I guess so, too. Connecting Amiga to plasma was probably the least > hassle of all alternatives. PC would need something special (either > card or converter?), and a hard drive, and a big

Re: Farewell Etaoin Shrdlu

2020-06-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 21:59, Bill Degnan wrote: > > Liam, > I rescued a Linotype and gave it to Bob Roswell for his museum in Hunt > Valley, MD USA...should you ever be in the Washington/Baltimore area. > Syssrc.com is the URL and the museum is housed within their consulting and > training

Re: Ancient transistor ?computer board

2020-06-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 21:29, Fred Cisin wrote: > > Q: Is that link adequate to unambiguously identify any specific location > within any sub-atomic particle in the universe? (such as far more > detail than is required for the PHYSICAL LOCATION of the start of the file??) It's simple. All we

Farewell Etaoin Shrdlu

2020-06-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
https://archive.org/details/FarewellEtaoinShrdlu 28min documentary on the last ever edition of the NY Times to be printed using hot metal -- before they switched to what are now a quite choice assortment of late-'70s minicomputers. I think I spotted a PDP, a Data General and some IBM device, but

Re: Ancient transistor ?computer board

2020-06-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 16:51, Peter Van Peborgh via cctech wrote: > > Guys, > > I have acquired this board and have trouble assigning it to a particular > computer manufacturer and type: > > https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/byRPH3wCR2aqxGX9U8BZfFTT_XtF7QCKSyVXoNmGIk >

Re: Aquarius (was Re: Apple 1)

2020-06-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 15:25, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote: > > > Actually, Al was hired as an Apple Fellow in 1985. His first project was > > "Trojan" a 68000 mac on an ISA card that mixed EGA and square pixel Mac > > video. I was the Mac-side programmer on the project. Marketing killed it > >

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 20:31, ben via cctalk wrote: > > And soon another version of something so marketing has new something > to make you buy a new version hardware and software.The problem was with > Amiga it was designed as 'game box' rather than a computer. (Nowdays you > phone is PC and the

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 19:51, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > > From time to time I behave like a normal human and, for example, zip > channels on my cable tv. Few years ago, while stopping at their "see > what we have on offer to you, prospective viewer" kind of channel, it > cracked open and I

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 14:45, David Brownlee wrote: > > The big issue with the Hydra was its lack of cache coherency between > processors, which made conventional SMP somewhat... challenging. You > could do very cool multiprocessor stuff with it, just not in a > conventional SMP capable OS (I

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 13:41, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > > The 4000T that I have was built in May of '96, and it amazes me that there > was any kind of market for it in light of how widespread PCs on the desktop > had become by that time. Agreed. VideoToasters might have been the main

Re: Amiga Vendors?

2020-06-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 at 09:52, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > > I'd say the Amiga really lost its shine around 20 years ago, about the > time Linux was getting serious and Windows 98 dominated the desktop. Unfortunately, yes, I think you're right. Ditto the Acorn RISC OS platform -- I know,

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-06-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 03:52, Richard Cini via cctalk wrote: > > You know, reading about this made me dig out the info I had on the Character > Oriented Windows ("COW") library. I was reading some of the docs and it > occurred to me that it operated much like Windows (probably Windows 1), but

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-06-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 01:57, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > A Tesla is a rather expensive electric car, a product of Elon Musk. > STARTING (minimal stripped down) at 40,000 pounds, and some models over > 80,000 pounds. > > Sell one of THOSE, and you can buy a car AND a lot of great computer >

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-31 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 19:56, Tony Duell wrote: > > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 7:24 PM Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > There were also some pretty high-spec British microcomputers, but they > tended to flop owing to the price. Things like the HH Tiger (did it > ev

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 18:17, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > > > > And I have had earnest youngsters on Twitter and elsewhere very > > seriously tell me that _no_ language could even theoretically be > > immune to the problems of C, because _all_ languages are implemented > > in C at the lowest

Building an IBM 3270 terminal controller

2020-05-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
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Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 21:40, John Ames wrote: > Agreed. While I'm much more favorably disposed towards C than you are, > the increasing homogeneity of almost all modern languages is > discouraging and, I think, detrimental to the field as a whole. Forth > and Smalltalk alike were eye-openers

Re: PRIVATE: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 21:47, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > On Tue, 26 May 2020, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > >>> I do not know what a "sheering section" means. > >> Typo: "cheering". :-) > > > > Aha! I still didn't know, but t

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 21:11, geneb wrote: > > CP/M was huge in the US, especially among the S-100 system users. It was > a pretty narrow window though - from probably 1978-1982. Kaypro had a > good portion of the market as well, but like pretty much all the other > manufacturers of CP/M

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 06:01, ben via cctalk wrote: > What keyboard are you using to get the fancy arrows? Unmodified IBM Model M from 1991 in my case. ⇒ is compose, equals, greater-than Snag is, I can't get one going the other way... I get less-than-or-equal-to etc: ≤ ≥ -- Liam Proven –

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 21:52, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > > Well, *I've* heard of them, but I enjoy knowing about such things. Most > in the US do not. *Nod* Shame but it's fair enough. I think there is at the least an article (and possibly an entire university course module) comparing

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 21:35, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Well, there were some products whose role was to SHEAR THE SHEEP. > The Apple3 belonged in a shearing section. Maybe even the Lisa, although > that wasn't its intended role. (?) > When I taught C, we gave the course a prerequisite

Re: IBM 3178 keyboards available in MN

2020-05-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 19:22, Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: > > A friend has unearthed approximately (5) of these IBM keyboards in his > dad's shed in MN. These are not PC keyboards but instead likely 3178 > terminal keyboards. They probably came out of 3M a very long time ago. > >

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 18:50, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > > TO help save a few bits in everyone's mailbox, I will link to some docs: > > http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f=4=1514 Whoah. OK, TMI for this dilettante. I think the only CBM kit that went through my home was a C16 I fixed for a

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 18:25, Tony Duell wrote: > > Err, the Acorn Atom could do colour at least in some graphics modes. > It used the 6847 video chip that turned up in the Tandy Color > Computer/Dragon. Maybe the base machine was monochrome video only, but > there was a PAL encoder board

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 17:49, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > > On 26 May 2020, at 12:57, Liam Proven via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > & the Isle of Man. :-) > > Suddenly your comments about Trash-80s and MSX machines makes perfect sense > too :) Fair enoug

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