Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:53, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > Too late to fix silicon, the 6522 issue surfaced. What 6522 issue? This is way more depth about a machine I never owned than I personally ever knew, I have to admit... > Oh, and re-use all the VIC peripherals to save NRE costs! I

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 23:17, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > > > Wait, PETs didn’t have graphics and Tic Tac Toe didn’t exist? Where did you > LIVE? The _name_ was new to me. & the Isle of Man. :-) -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk –

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:51, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > Quite a few Australians might not share your view that Dick Smith was > ‘niche’, Europeans may, largely because they’ll have never heard of him in > Europe. For proper niche see the RCA-1802 powered COMX-35. I do remember the

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:49, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > I apologise for offending you. Sloppiness and insnesitivity on my part, > not a deliberate attempt. Just saddened, Fred, not offended. I never had a ZX81, but the door-wedge joke is as old as the machine. I think its historical

Re: 3 stylewriter printers available for pickup only, Fairfield, IA

2020-05-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:42, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > I find Gmail > sends a lot of group posts and replies straight to the spam folder. If you filter ClassicCmp.org replies into a folder, then there is a checkbox in the "filter messages like these" screen that says "never mark as

Re: history is hard (was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC)

2020-05-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 20:22, Guy Sotomayor wrote: > > I hadn't thought about IBMCACHE.SYS in *years*. I wrote it in its > entirety (there's even a patent that covers some of its operation). I > was in an AdTech (Advanced Technology) group at the time and was > looking at how to make disk

Re: history is hard (was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC)

2020-05-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 05:30, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > I played briefly with Xenix on an XT (or MAYBE an AT) on a 15MB? drive > partition. MS-DOS was a better match for that hardware. Never tried Xenix on an XT, but it was the 2nd OS on my PC-AT in my first ever job. That machine was

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 05:14, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > The serial interface would have been fast enough, if the MOS folks had > talked to the design team about the bug and squashed it early. But, they > did not, and on the VIC-20, which did not expect to move many drives, no > one cared.

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 24 May 2020 at 03:42, Richard Cini wrote: > > Thanks Liam. Oberon is pretty interesting. I may download that just to see it > in action. I’ve used a ton of 3Com cards so the setup program is pretty > familiar. I haven’t used DESQview, well, since I had it installed on my > Compaq

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 22:24, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > On Sat, 23 May 2020, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > It is pretty much the *same* BASIC in the PET, VIC-20 and C64. It got > > trivial adjustments for the hardware, but bear in mind: the PET had no > > graphi

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 03:52, Richard Cini via cctalk wrote: > > You know, reading about this made me dig out the info I had on the Character > Oriented Windows ("COW") library. I was reading some of the docs and it > occurred to me that it operated much like Windows (probably Windows 1), but

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 21:56, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Microsoft did a BASIC for the Commodore PET. I wasn't aware that they did > the C64. It is pretty much the *same* BASIC in the PET, VIC-20 and C64. It got trivial adjustments for the hardware, but bear in mind: the PET had no

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 21:34, ben via cctalk wrote: > > > Confused here. Pirates or Micosoft history? > Runs. Yes. He meant that PoSV is a fictionalised, sanitised, MS-approved account and not very reliable. As is MS' own history. Written by the winners, etc. However, I'd say PoSV will give

Re: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC

2020-05-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 19:50, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > Recently found a movie Pirates of Silicon Valley which had some of early > > Microsoft history > > It is a work of fiction, and should be taken as such. You're right, but it contains the broad strokes of the story, more or less

Re: Keyboard inverters/converters for terminals

2020-05-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 18:21, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Similarly, I have a few 3.25" drives. NO, not 3.5"; not 3.0". 3.25" was > the entry in the "shirt pocket disk" wars that Dysan bet the company on. > (remember their disks?)Another discussion. I remember the Zenith Minisport, a

Re: Keyboard inverters/converters for terminals

2020-05-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 05:26, Rico Pajarola via cctalk wrote: > > > The whole concept of "if the plug fits, it will at least not blow up" is > kind of a late invention. Ha! I have an old external 3.5" IDE disk enclosure. It's a good enclosure, too -- Firewire 800 _and_ USB 2 _and_ eSATA. It has

Re: SEL 810A running lunar lander

2020-05-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 03:53, Eric Moore via cctalk wrote: > > https://youtu.be/L743MjJthHY > > I recently got my SEL 810A working. I hope you guys enjoy the video :). Very nifty indeed. Shared with the VCC on FB so you may see a few more viewers from there! :-) -- Liam Proven – Profile:

Re: Game Of Life, John H. Conway

2020-04-30 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 23:05, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote: > > I also wrote a version for the PDP-8; I was sure someone else had beat me > to it (an assembly version, that is), but I didn't find any versions online > other than for BASIC and FOCAL—neither of which supported very many cells > nor

Re: pdp11/05 key?

2020-04-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 13:55, Chris Elmquist wrote: > > This might be one of those jokes that if you have to explain it, it looses > the punch ... but I’ll try, > > There used to also be something called a Hong Kong Whore House, similarly > staffed with young Asian women, but they didn’t make

Re: pdp11/05 key?

2020-04-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 04:05, Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: > > CDC had a memory manufacturing facility in SE Asia, staffed with mostly young > Asian women. > An older colleague at ETA helped set it up (he just passed away; RIP Carl). > > He called it the Hong Kong Core House. There's a few

Re: State of New Jersey needs COBOL programmers

2020-04-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 at 11:28, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: > > Speaking of COBOL and Admiral Grace Hopper, I have one of her actual > nanoseconds, a piece of insulated solid wire about 11.2 inches long, when > she was a Superintendent's guest lecturer. Since I was a Navy MSCS > student, she

Re: State of New Jersey needs COBOL programmers

2020-04-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 23:02, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > I'm reminded of a T-shirt company that was around when I was in college, > named "Outer products". They had various math and physics related shirts, > for example with Maxwell's equations (your choice of differential or integral >

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 18:00, Warner Losh wrote: > > Thanks! Nice talk! I wish I'd stuck around but I was kinda fried after my > talk... I understand. I was the same, and went to the café for a couple of beers. :-) > Surprised you didn't mention that we had 80 column xterms due to 24x80 25x80

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 21:26, Warner Losh wrote: >> > Now I'm going to have to find that talk... :) I was at FOSDEM, but too > preoccupied with my own talk to go to other talks and run the room too full > gauntlet. I know. Your talk was directly before mine in the same room, and I

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 17:24, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > > BTW, nice talk at FOSDEM 2020, I was there. :) Oh wow! Thank you! *Blushes* :-) -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts: lpro...@gmail.com

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 16:13, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > This is the listing: > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIntage-DEC-VS4000-memory-SIMM-50-19464-02/223624600040 That is... not very informative. :-( I also note that the listing just says VS4000 and does not specify a model. It could be one of 5

Re: Identifying Machine for DEC Memory

2020-04-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 1 Apr 2020 at 09:08, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > I mistakenly bought some memory thinking it was for a VAXstation 4000 VLC. > It turns out that it isn't. It physically fits a VAXstation 4000 Model 60, > but putting it in that machine the machine fails to power up. The part > number

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 at 17:46, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > A company may close down, but that doesn't mean it is "gone" as far as its > property is concerned. Ownership passes to others, perhaps creditors or the > like, or the majority shareholder. Who that is may be quite hard to find

Re: stuff for sale - recent move

2020-03-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 17:58, Joseph Zatarski via cctalk wrote: > > I've started inventorying a lot of the stuff I'd like to pass on here: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19vhF-o6vx9g7l-D8cvLJ5OPJzpdmU9PTTknbxY-mY58/edit?usp=sharing I can't see these in the Google sheet, for some reason:

Re: stuff for sale - recent move

2020-03-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 07:13, Kevin Lee via cctalk wrote: > > Hi. > > I forgot to mention it’s an eye phone > 11 PRO 256gb. I may be missing something -- *what's* an "eye phone"? I thought you were listing vintage kit, not smartphones? -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven

Re: Old tape data retrieval

2020-02-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 03:49, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > Hoo boy. I'll throw my experience in and see if you can avoid nausea... > > First of all, you don't need a special controller to run most floppytape > drives, nor do you need to give up a floppy drive to use them--they > don't use

Re: HP 9000 Series 360 Thin LAN

2020-02-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 at 19:20, Roger Addy via cctech wrote: > > I'm > wondering if it's possible to connect it to a modern ethernet network? Run a single piece of thin Ethernet into the back of an old 10base-T hub. Cable the hub into a modern switch. Job done. -- Liam Proven - Profile:

Re: Larry Tesler

2020-02-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 16:10, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > https://www.cultofmac.com/685669/larry-tesler-the-apple-employee-who-invented-cut-copy-paste-dies-at-74/ > > https://twitter.com/cdespinosa/status/1229996808052469760 Oh no. :-( "Don't mode me in!" I saw him speak, just once... --

Re: Sun external SMD cables

2020-02-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 23:43, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > PS I forgot to thank Liam for offering assistance, so thanks, Liam. You're very welcome. Sorry I misunderstood and couldn't help. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google

Re: Sun external SMD cables

2020-02-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 00:42, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > > > Liam, he's looking for SMD, which need a Bus and Radial. One Bus can > daisy chain from drive to drive, and us usually 60 pin. The radial RF > cables are usually 26 pin ribbon. A separate cable from the controller > to each

Re: Sun external SMD cables

2020-02-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 19:06, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > I supplied part numbers. How can I be more specific? Oddly, some of us do not have a mental look-up table of Sun part numbers. In fact I think I can safely say that I could not identify a single cable of any form for any machine ever

Re: Sun external SMD cables

2020-02-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 18:46, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > > Anyone here have a set of Sun external SMD cables (530-1079 and 530-1080) > that they can loan or want to sell? > > I ordered from a set from MemoryX at the beginning of Jan. They haven’t > arrived and MemoryX isn’t answering my

Design flaw in the SCSI spec?

2020-01-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
With his express permission, I'm forwarding a mail from a public list. I am interested in Gene's comments about the design of SCSI, but I don't know enough electronics to judge. I thought others here might. I have trimmed the mail a little to the relevant parts. -- Liam Proven - Profile:

Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 64, Issue 3

2020-01-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 02:00, Stefan Skoglund wrote: > > Well in some way or another i got a copy with the book to Sweden. > > Ran it from 1999 to 2002 or so (got a SGI challenge S as NetBSD machine > and a pc as a linux machine at that time in 2002 or so.) > > Host was a 6100 with the Apple tilt

Re: OpenStep Solaris

2020-01-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 at 06:25, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > On 1/6/20 3:53 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > Any screeenshot galleries or better still videos anywhere? > > I found this photo that I took - > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZjYMdZZrIygvsQas9b40QWW7uNxM

Re: OpenStep Solaris

2020-01-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 00:22, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > I demoed OpenStep Solaris on top of CDE in my last exhibit at VCF PNW. > It could be awkward trying to figure out where to look for application's > menu. Just to make things extra ugly, I ran MAE (Macintosh Application > Environment)

Re: OpenStep Solaris

2020-01-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 00:12, Chris Hanson wrote: > > Not quite! Sun was a participant in creating the OpenStep standard (the NS > class prefix stands for “NeXT/Sun”) and *created their own implementation* of > OpenStep for Solaris. (Just as GNUstep is an independent implementation of > the

Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 64, Issue 3

2020-01-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 23:30, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: > > Yes. We first started with Mach 3.0 build MK58. We did our final > fork at MK68. We made some *significant* changes from what CMU > had (things like changing mach messages from IPC to RPC) and a > whole lot of work in the area of

Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 64, Issue 3

2020-01-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 20:58, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: > > Just to clarify, the reference to "i810 RISC" should be the i860 > ("N-10"), their second general-purpose RISC design - versus the 960MX > from the BiiN project with Siemens in the mid-80s as their first (?), > which would become

Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 64, Issue 3

2020-01-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 19:02, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: > > I had been working on the IBM Microkernel (was one of the original 6 > people onthat team). It was eventually to form the basis of OS/2 for > PPC. The way thatthe microkernel project was structured was that most > of the "OS" was

Re: cctalk Digest, Vol 64, Issue 3

2020-01-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 09:56, Jeffrey S. Worley via cctalk wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 12:00 -0600, cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org wrote: > > On 1/2/2020 1:35 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: > > > > > Anyone done anything with Netware *for PowerPC*? Allegedly > > > > > there was > > > > >

Re: First Internet message and ...

2019-12-31 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 at 07:51, Nemo via cctalk wrote: > > Would you have the citations handy? I would be interested to read that. I thought the same thing! -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com

Re: Mac 3.5" floppies for anyone who wants them

2019-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 18:05, David Barto wrote: > > And claimed. Oh! Well, that was quick. :-) -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44

Re: Mac 3.5" floppies for anyone who wants them

2019-12-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 17:52, David Barto via cctalk wrote: > > Last retry. I’ve still got them and if anyone wants them, let me know. May I pass this message on, e.g. to one of the many LowEndMac groups? Anonymised if you prefer. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email:

Re: First Internet message and ...

2019-11-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 18:29, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > On 11/27/19 7:13 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > Okay, you're right and I'm wrong. Everyone should play games on their > 8 bit computers because they'll grow up to be real computer scientists. Play,

Re: First Internet message and ...

2019-11-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 15:47, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > No, I meant "commercially viable" computers. [1] You didn't say that, though. [2] If it sells enough units for someone to make a living off it, that is the _definition_ of "commercially viable". As such, my first link qualifies.

Re: First Internet message and ...

2019-11-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 04:02, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > Other than in very low-level MCUs, I don't see 8 bit micros making a > comeback. And 32/64 bits seems to be the rule for MCUs today. You might be surprised. E.g. https://rc2014.co.uk/ (selling strongly, I believe)

Re: First Internet message and ...

2019-11-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 05:38, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: > > One of my special tours at the CHM is "Mistakes That Kept Getting Repeated" That is something I would _really_ like to hear. Sadly I am on the wrong continent for it and that's not likely to change in the foreseeable future. Between

Re: First Internet message and ...

2019-11-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 at 23:07, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > > The first Internet message was sent 60 yrs. ago on Nov. 21 between SRI and > UCLA. 50, not 60. https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/internet-50-years/ Source: ARPA.

Re: message from andrew (was 3270 controller simulation)

2019-11-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 02:46, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > Please feel free to copy the above to the mailing list - I definitely > want to join (do you know if it is possible to join with a GMail > account, the last I heard was I was waiting to be approved) It absolutely is -- that's how I use

Re: Question about "Distributed" in the DFT name.

2019-11-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 19:24, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 11/18/19 11:10 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > > > For example, I'm not sure anyone would call VMS an open system, yet > > clearly it's distributed (VAXcluster). > > What is "open" in this context? Is it open source? Is it open >

Re: Repurposing cable for IBM Model M Keyboard

2019-11-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 16:50, Anders Nelson via cctalk wrote: > > Maybe buy a more modern cable and hack that instead?: > > https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F283062451183 That's pretty cool, actually. I have about ½ dozen Model Ms and most of my

Re: Repurposing cable for IBM Model M Keyboard

2019-11-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 15:31, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > However, I now have a pang of conscience about hacking around with a > perfectly good cable, particularly if they are uncommon. How common are > these cables? I don't know for sure but I've certainly seen people looking for them. Not

Re: TI994/A Power Supply

2019-11-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 06:59, Kevin Parker via cctalk wrote: > > > These voltages appear to neatly align with most PC power supplies so I > should be able to tap into an old AT power supply of which I have quite a > few. The PSU apparently outputs AC, not DC, which is unusual... but a PC PSU can

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-30 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 03:34, allison via cctalk wrote: > > The whole story of what was going on was far more complex and interesting. Conceded. > Funny thing was DECnet was in 1983 the largest world wide network > period. By then is was well over 300 nodes and climbing fast. > And none of it

Re: 50 yrs. ago today

2019-10-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 17:32, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it was > a standard option in most vendors' catalogs. > > Maybe you've got a digit wrong? Tim Berners-Lee says it's the 50th anniversary of the first internet

Re: [Simh] Fwd: VAX + Spectre

2019-09-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 02:19, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > ... > Speaking of timing, that reminds me of two amazing security holes written up > in the past few years. Nothing to do with the Spectre etc. issue. > > One is the recovery of speech from an encrypted VoIP channel such as Skype,

Re: Vulnerabilities (Was: [Simh] Fwd: VAX + Spectre

2019-09-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 21:09, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > One student (who later became my best friend and buddy) > skipped the technical details and said, "The primary design error for > MacOS and Windoze (sic) is that they placed a lower priority on security, > than on being able to

Re: TRS-80 Fireworks

2019-08-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 10:16, Marvin Johnston via cctalk wrote: > > I'm just curious how many people have powered up their TRS-80 computers, > and ended up with a bang and a room filled with smoke? "They all do that, sir." Computers older than 20y or so, that is. :-( -- Liam Proven -

Re: VCF Midwest 14 Talks and Talkers

2019-08-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 21:04, Jason T via cctalk wrote: > > I took a lot of, uh, "inspiration" from that page :) :-D -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn:

Re: VCF Midwest 14 Talks and Talkers

2019-08-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 at 19:28, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: > > Especially the > > "Notice: Undefined index: currentpage in /var/www/vcfmw.org/footer.html on > line 34" > > at the bottom. I felt right at home ;) I liked that too! Reminded me of: http://www.coboloncogs.org/INDEX.HTM (c)

MULTIPROCESSING FOR THE IMPOVERISHED Part 1: a 6809 Uniprocessor

2019-08-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
1993 article on building a multiprocessor 6809 box. http://www.bradrodriguez.com/papers/6809cpu.htm -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44

Re: IBM 5160 with oddball MDA input/output card

2019-07-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 13:23, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote: > > Someone on one of the Facebook vintage groups Oh? Which one? -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven -

Re: keycaps / switches for Tek 4006

2019-07-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 02:40, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: > > After disassembly, I can see the keyboard assembly are marked "Cherry" and > part number is B76-07AA. I'm not enough of a keyboard wonk to know if these > are still-mfg'd cherry key mechanisms? Cheery are still around. Ask

Re: Computer Reset shop, liquidation. (USA)

2019-07-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 at 14:41, Ethan O'Toole wrote: > > > This LGR guy took 15 min to get to the point. Any point. And his > > channel doesn't even explain what "LGR" stands for. > > LGR is short for Lazy Game Reviews. His channel used to be reviews of old > MS-DOS games or something. Random dude

Re: Computer Reset shop, liquidation. (USA)

2019-07-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 at 13:52, William Donzelli wrote: > > Cleanouts like this are a big part of my business. CR is by no means > small, but is also not that big. The last big place I was in - well, > the entire CR space would have been part of one of the floors of the > building. One of six

Re: Computer Reset shop, liquidation. (USA)

2019-07-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 at 15:00, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > > Well, I think he kind of created a shitstorm and gave CR a little too > much exposure. The CR liquidation seems to have been going at a nice > controlled rate. Now that the whole world knows, it would not be a > surprise if

Re: Computer Reset shop, liquidation. (USA)

2019-07-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 at 06:37, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: > > At 10:14 PM 16/07/2019 -0700, Al Kossow wrote: > >> Exploring a MASSIVE Retro Computer Warehouse! > > > >old news, dredged up again because of a youtube jackass > > > Ah yes, now I see there was exactly one previous mention a month

Re: visit to Bletchley Park / comp museum - Elliot 803

2019-07-15 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 at 14:04, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > > Bill, > Ask Peter about emulators. Pretty sure some one at the museum did an 803 > emulator, (not in SIMH) >From a casual Google there seem to be several... https://sourceforge.net/projects/elliott803/

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 at 06:04, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Be careful about taunting a time traveller. > He might read what you write and it might give him ideas. Oh no! Roko's basilisk! You've wok+++ATH NO CARRIER

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 17:02, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > Practically speaking, what's the difference between a close working > replica and the original? Are the bits somehow imbued with some > additional spiritual property? > > The replica may actually be more reliable. Spoken like a

Re: Wtd: advice upcoming visit to Bletchley Park / comp museum

2019-07-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 at 14:53, Dave Wade wrote: > > I wouldn't like to comment on relationships, but they appeal to very > different audiences. There is now some signage at the main gate but its > minimal... OK, noted. So apart from my comment that BP depended on the revenues and draw of TNMOC,

Re: Wtd: advice upcoming visit to Bletchley Park / comp museum

2019-07-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 11:40, Bill Degnan via cctech wrote: > > Refined question - When would I have to depart the museum in order to > travel by rental car (driving legal speeds) from Bletchley to Gatwick > Airport in time for a 4PM flight on 7/11 (A Thursday)? To echo what others have said: *

Re: Wtd: advice upcoming visit to Bletchley Park / comp museum

2019-07-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 00:23, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > > When I visited Bletchley park and TNMOC I went by train from London. Euston > I believe. From Gatwick there are trains to Victoria which are quite quick. Me too. But then, I lived in London. Still took nearly 2 hours. But I think

Re: Lots of Apple 1 computers @ VCF West

2019-07-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 09:12, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: > > I just _love_ being reminded of the circumstances of my NOT buying an Apple > I, and what that mistake cost me. > > http://everist.org/NobLog/20181001_missing_wave.htm Sad reading... -- Liam Proven - Profile:

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 17:46, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > I sold a $3500 car once for cash to a guy who sold his goods at a booth > at fairs and shows. He received lots and lots of $20 bills in payment, > so that is what he paid me with. I kept the cash instead of depositing > it in the bank

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 15:26, Patrick Finnegan wrote: > Checks can be relatively convenient and cheap compared to other options. I > can (for free) send a check of any size to anyone I want by filling out a > form on my bank's website to pay someone (mostly limited by my account's > balance).

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 14:01, William Donzelli wrote: > > US currency is the most most seriously counterfeited in the world, due > to being useful almost anywhere. This is why the bills are not very > distinctive - you are supposed to look at them. Most counterfeits are > good, but not good

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 15:57, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > USA makes a pretense of accommodating disabilities, but is actually pretty > hostile to the disabled. :-( > The "new" paper currency, that is s'posedly good for blind people has > slightly different shades of the same colors. (!)

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 29 Jun 2019 at 13:39, William Donzelli wrote: > > Your knowledge is way out of date. I was first there about 25y ago, and last there about 17y ago. The much-vaunted redesign was, to my European eyes, so subtle as to be indistinguishable. No, I'm not kidding. > US currency changed about

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 22:55, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: > > Two weeks ago I was in London, and had brought my pound notes/coins from > a visit a few years earlier. When trying to buy lunch, the cashier > refused my £10 note since new £5 and £10 notes had been issued over a > year before. I

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 22:50, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > Yea, I'm just the right age to have seen them in circulation and have it as > a unit of measure for "just bigger than an inch". Sorry for the crazy > measurement... It's fine really. It's provoked an interesting if offtopic

Re: OT: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 18:57, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Oh, FAR FAR FAR less than 5%. *Chuckle* > Most residents of USA haven't seen a half dollar or "50 cent piece" in > decades. They are as much of an oddity as the $2 bill. They are > nominally still in circulation, most recent being

Re: "half-dollar"/"50 cent piece" Was: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR

2019-06-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 21:47, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > Just for fun, I went to the bank and bought about $1000 in half dollar and > dollar coins. My son collects them, and we went through them all. We did find > some silver half dollars. The ones we are not keeping now go to

Re: Identifying some boards

2019-06-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 23:11, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > These look like they're from 486 era file server hardware. Not even slightly, IMHO. They're from 1989. That is the year the 80486 was first introduced, so too early, and also huge wide slots like that aren't from any kind of Intel

Re: Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 at 17:21, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > I saw this > half-dollar sized plastic fob on the desk and asked what it was for. If I may just say -- only about 5% of humanity know how big that is. I don't. I don't even know if a half a dollar is a note or a coin, and that's

Recovering the ROM of an IBM 5100 using OCR (among other things)

2019-06-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
This is *epic*. https://github.com/stepleton/5100NonExecutableROSDecode/blob/master/WRITEUP.md -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44

Re: One of the deeper dives into RISC vs CISC I've seen

2019-06-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 12:31, Tony Aiuto via cctalk wrote: > > On a related note, a fun talk about ARM > https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2045=_6sh097Dk5k Remarkable. Thanks for the link. Astounding. Very thought-provoking. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 00:36, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > I too had a soft spot for Windows 98 Second Edition. I ran it for a > LONG time. > > I found it quite stable and used it for a server for a school in '99-'00 > before putting a Linux box in place the following year. > > They had

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 14:53, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > I was speaking from a user's perspective; I never did much coding under > Windows (well, a fair amount under Cygwin, using only the portable I/O > library, but that's not really _Windows_ programming). Well, me too. I don't really

Re: Modems and external dialers.

2019-06-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 at 20:33, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > Great rant. :-D Thanks! > I myself much prefer my Windows98 machines to my Windows 10 laptop, which > I had to buy because i) many Web sites won't work without the latest and > greatest browser (in many cases because of the

Re: One of the deeper dives into RISC vs CISC I've seen

2019-06-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 at 18:55, David wrote: > > I found it most interesting, thanks for sending out the link. Oh good. I'm glad to hear that. One "thank you" makes it worth the while. :-) -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus:

Computer Reset in Dallas has re-opened... temporarily

2019-06-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
AIUI the owner is now in a nursing home. Thanks to Justin Scott and a group of enthusiasts, rather than sending all the stock to the scrappers, the store is occasionally re-opening in an effort to sell as much as possible to collectors. It's here:

One of the deeper dives into RISC vs CISC I've seen

2019-06-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Goes a bit over my head but may be of interest: https://userpages.umbc.edu/~vijay/mashey.on.risc.html -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK:

Re: What Makes a PDP-11/35 or 40 Tick?

2019-06-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 at 01:42, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > IFF your old post had a solution! (rather than being an unresolved > query) https://xkcd.com/979/ There are a couple of things now where I know that if I try to find sources, I'll find myself. The details of how id Software's game

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