Margaret Hamilton Guardian interview.

Another of the un-acknowledged people in the upcoming July 29 'celebrations'. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/13/margaret-hamilton-computer-scientist-interview-software-apollo-missions-1969-moon-landing-nasa-women --lyndon

Re: Email delivery protocols / methods.

> MMDF MMDF was[*] an MTA, not a protocol. (See also PMDF.) --lyndon * Is anyone still running MMDF? The last production shops I had my fingers in that ran it was circa 1996. That was when SCO was still a thing, and MMDF was its MTA of choice.

Re: Kids these days...

William Donzelli via cctalk writes: > It is a real company, but if you look into the SEC papers, there is a > LOT of shady stuff there. Its sole job may be to move money in and out > of the Ukraine. I was going to shy away from those thoughts, but ... * a "new" startup, since 2009? * actual

Re: 1983 UBC PDP-11 Unix tools distribution

Al Kossow via cctalk writes: > On 3/6/19 10:14 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk wrote: > sigh.. before this goes farther into the weeds, the tape > came from the University of British Columbia's Biosciences Data Center > > there is a short bio of Bill Webb at > http://archive

Re: 1983 UBC PDP-11 Unix tools distribution

Brent Hilpert writes: > On 2019-Mar-05, at 10:07 PM, Richard Loken wrote: >> TRIUMF was using /11s for cyclotron control I believe, that's not >> where you anticipate UNIX showing up. >> But was it Unix or something else like RT-11? Or was it a VAX? > Well, I don't know for certain, I was just

Re: Cybernex APL-100 terminal

On Mon, 23 Apr 2018, Norman Jaffe via cctech wrote: Does anyone in the group have access to documentation for the Cybernex APL-100 video terminal? All that I've been able to locate is a 4 page brochure for it; they were originally made in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Any help would be greatly

Re: Multics Lives

> On Apr 20, 2018, at 8:45 AM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk > wrote: > > It seems to go unmentioned here, so here you are. One guy have set up > a public Multics site. More than one ;-) $ ssh mult...@orthanc.ca HSLA Port

RE: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

Ok well I have checked and it looks like Lyndon is on the yahoo MTS list, but his mail supplier may be filing as spam. Umm ... his email supplier is him. I've been running my own mail servers since the early 1980s. If anything is getting bounced, it's because my email servers brand the

RE: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

Lyndon, Seeing as the folks who set up the original distribution are on the Yahoo list it's the best place to ask questions. I assume you don't want to set up a Yahoo account? Facebook perhaps? I did fight my way thought the Yahoo interface to get onto at least one of the MTS groups via the

Restoring MTS *FS distribution tapes onto a UNIX system

The answer to my previous question lives in the source code. The D6.0A MTS distribution doesn't have the source on disk, so the files need to be extracted from the *FS tapes. On an MTS system, that's a pain in the ass. Given the DRIVER file from the distribution, has anyone tried extracting

Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

Are any of you aware of an MTS mailing list that lives outside of the execrable Yahoo groups environment? And if not, is there any interest in starting one? Meanwhile, if there are any MTS hacks on the list, I have a question: When running *SAV or *SVW, what are the labels the system is

Re: OT: the death of shortwave / Re: Hallicrafters S-85

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 8:39 PM, Marc Howard wrote: > > That said, it is much easier to do coast to coast now with WebSDR. Go to > websdr.org and choose a receiving site. They have way better antennas than > you or I and you can (cheat) pick one near the person your

Re: OT: the death of shortwave / Re: Hallicrafters S-85

> On Oct 19, 2017, at 7:15 PM, Ed Thierbach via cctalk > wrote: > > I'd be interested in a classic computing net as well. I have 40 - 10 > meters available on HF. Our area is lagging in digital repeater coverage, > so no Fusion or DMR or D*Star for me just yet. This

Re: What's the matter with kids today (Was: The origin of the phrases

> On Oct 6, 2017, at 12:08 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > I have long held that while initial creation of software can benefit from > providing the programmers with the absolutel latest hardware, that at least > one significant stage of debugging and

Re: Subject: Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a microcomputer

> On Sep 11, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > >> Was Jerry Pournelle the FIRST to write a PUBLISHED NOVEL on a >> MICROCOMPUTER? Yikes! Talk about SHOUTING. > > It is EMPHASIS of individual words and phrases. > THIS IS SHOUTING! FIGURE OUT THE

Re: Solaris on PPC?

> On Aug 30, 2017, at 7:30 PM, jim stephens via cctalk > wrote: > > IIRC Jobs killed the effort. Been a long time ago to recall. I don't think > it died before he was involved. > > We had the x86 Solaris, and the office was there at least thru Solaris 2.7 > days. I

Re: Why women were the first computer programmers

> On Aug 23, 2017, at 9:27 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk > wrote: > > Well, this is the stupidest thing I've read today. "Do Not Feed The Troll" should go without saying. Really.

Re: xv and VMS

> The motion carries. > > Retirement as an attempt to gain more free time just doesn't work. You people obviously don't know Richard. He will hrumph and blunderbuss his way through local space-time until reality bends to his requirements. Also, the word "free" is never a descriptor of "time"

Re: mc68010+mc68451 Unix source?

> On Oct 3, 2016, at 8:19 PM, Phil Budne wrote: > > I have an ancient Unix system made by ProComp in Switzerland that has a > 68000 CPU, 4 MB RAM and that 68451 MMU. Unfortunately, I didn't get a hard > disk > or system media for this oldtimer :( It ran a port of 7th

Re: Ill-considered complaints [was: RE: early networking (was Re: G4 cube (was Re: 68K Macs with MacOS 7.5 still in production use...))]

Actually, Mr. Cook, the standard for the last 35 years or so has been to change the subject line, with the old subject in SQUARE BRACKETS with the characters "was: " prepended. Not the standard, but a convention. The standard is documented in RFC 5322 section 3.6.4 (and dates back to RFC822).

Re: Subjects, Topics and Threading

How is sending a new email any different than replying / changing subject line? A brand-new (not reply) message does not carry the References: header chain from the previous thread. For threading-aware MUAs, this makes sure the new conversation doesn't get buried in the old thread. Or

Re: Source for server lift/hoist?

> On Jul 4, 2016, at 5:26 PM, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > > Also nice but I doubt the front wheels at 3.5" dia would slip under a rack > base so the equipment mass can be lifted directly inside the rack frame. No wheels are going to slip under a bolted down rack frame.

Re: Excessive Bounces

> On Jul 2, 2016, at 2:37 AM, Jay West wrote: > > Of those bounces, almost 100% of them were due to DMARC/DKIM mechanisms. I > view DMARC/DKIM as less than useless. First, they are far from universally > implemented - so most valid email is not DMARC/DKIM "protected".

Re: what's vintage? was Re: Latest addition: A bondi-blue iMac

> On Jul 1, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > We're entering another interesting period of time. For those who want a > desktop PC to read email and surf the web, the display could well turn > out to be the most expensive component by far. Interestingly, the RPi

Re: Wanted: Ann Arbor Ambassador terminal

> On Jun 24, 2016, at 6:22 PM, Richard Loken wrote: > > I have an Ann Arbor Ambassador here with the original owner's manual. > It has been sitting on my shelf for 15 years or so, I must say the > always evil, "It worked when I put it on the shelf" and I am not about > to

Re: Quadra 660AV what's with the "PowerPC" label?

> On Jun 15, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Mouse wrote: > > The BSDs just sit there and work, for the most part. The major thing I > see them lacking is a PR department. And thank $GOD for that. It was P.R. that created (and perpetuates) Linux.

Re: Real Mice (was real keyboards ...)

> On May 31, 2016, at 7:25 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > Some scroll-wheel mice also employ > the wheel as a third-button--just push down on it. No, that "button" in the middle is B2, as anyone from the original days of the 3-button mouse knows. The perversions that Microsoft

Real Mice (was real keyboards ...)

Since we are moaning about real hardware, is there anything available these days that comes even close to the Logitech ergonomic three button mouse from the mid-late 1990s? The sculpted to fit in your hand model? Before the scroll wheel abomination had been invented? They were a joy to

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

> On May 31, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > Yet I had a colleague whose keyboard was made with all-blank caps. Very > interesting when he needed help, or got me to demonstrate a problem - which > luckily were very rarely. My other Cherry keyboard I love

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

>> >> Hehe, I use my Model M mostly with SGI's that have PS/2 ports. So, I'm >> right there with you. The only sane modern keyboards are the WASD 'CODE' series. I have the 87 key model:

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> On May 27, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg <lyn...@orthanc.ca> wrote: > > And THAT is the best part of everything. I.e. get derailed! Lose complete track of what you set out to do. Discover the unexpected, instead. Break the kit! Make LEDs burn out. Then figure out wh

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> On May 27, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Tapley, Mark wrote: > > but it has a lot of potential to get distracted from what I think you are > aiming for. And THAT is the best part of everything.

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> On May 27, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Ali wrote: > > Yes, of course that makes assumptions on my knowledge level as well > which does not quite extend to Forth or APL. So learn with him, already!

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> On May 27, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Jay West wrote: > > At the risk of being flamed... I'll mention that if the kid is more visually > driven, you might try introducing him to an Arduino Uno or similar. Something > he can see the results of his code in lights and dials. And

Re: Windows use in medical spaces (Re: vintage computers in active use)

> On May 27, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Ali wrote: > > I would say very few. You have to remember critical systems are not running > a general windows system i.e. people are not surfing the web on them and > installing the latest games recommended by friends from facebook. Windows on

Re: Need Rec: Book to teach about computers and BASIC at an eight year old level

> On May 27, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dave Wade wrote: > > Those who write APL programs ae sadists, and those who like fixing them when > they go wrong are masochists > ... Though I believe Iverson wanted to call it "The Programming > Language" I was going to suggest he

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

> On May 13, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > "undercut"??!? > I seriously doubt that the B "Black Apple" was cheaper. But, it had B's > credibility backing it up for skeptical school boards, who bought tons of B > AV equipment, but didn't know what a "personal

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

> On May 13, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Jason T wrote: > > Apple made a deal with > well-known educational vendor B, who made black cases with a special > A/V box on the back (a cluster of RCA connectors) I don't remember the stack of RCA connectors, but yeah, Apple definitely rode

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

> On May 13, 2016, at 6:46 PM, Tor Arntsen wrote: > > They weren't even clones, they were the real deal. Apple II Plus > computers produced by Apple for B for a time. Apple manufactured an OEM Apple ][+ ? Really? I was pretty sure the B's were an independent product.

Re: beige rant (was Re: IBM 5150 with red case on ebay)

> On May 13, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > Ever see one of those black computers from Hell and Bowel, that seem just > like an Apple? I sold them in the early 80s. My memory is very fuzzy, but ISTR they were a licensed clone of the Apple ][. And they actually

Re: Interfacing with HP-HIL

On 2016-05-05 6:47 PM, Mouse wrote: faster, lower power, maybe even cheaper, etc. TTL could never claim "lower power" :-)

Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)

> On Feb 25, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Jay West wrote: > > But I did find there is apparently a service http://key.me where you take a > picture of your key with their app, and they mail you a copy (or if there is > a kiosk of theirs in your area, you can do it real time there).

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

> On Feb 24, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Richard Loken wrote: > >AU purchased an 8600 some time around 1985? >The 8600 was upgraded in place to an 8650 >The 8650 was traded in on an 8820 for $1.2 million >Some time in the very late 80s a VAX 4000-300 was purchased >

Re: OK, one more question about sending email TO an old VAX

> On Feb 24, 2016, at 5:11 PM, Richard Loken wrote: > > Multinet has an SMTP listener and it expects standard SMTP addresses. > If you cannot deliver such an address locally then you must look at how > you have configured the Multinet email server, if you want to forward > to

Re: The AT 3B2 is still proprietary

Heh. You obviously never net the 3B4000. s/net/met/ :-P

Re: The AT 3B2 is still proprietary

If I ever get my hands on a 3B2 of any size, I would happily hook it up to a Honda three-wheeler and drag it along a rough gravel road until it was nothing more that unrecognizable lump if raw steel. I hated using a 3B2. Heh. You obviously never net the 3B4000.

Re: Non-binding-breaking Book scanners (Was: Looking for PDP handbook

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > It wouldn't matter for most of my books, but I have just a few where if you > break the spine, then I will break your spine. If anyone is still maintaining a "fortunes" file, please add the above. --lyndon

Re: NiCd battery replacement in vintage computers

> On Feb 6, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > I see all the talk about NiCd cells--does no one use NiMH nowadays? Why go > with the toxics? Voltage? Recharging circuits? Current sinking capacity. It's not always a 1:1 mapping.

Re: NiCd battery replacement in vintage computers

> On Feb 6, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > >> Voltage? Recharging circuits? Current sinking capacity. It's not >> always a 1:1 mapping. > > Sure, but does it really matter in a typical battery-backed-up RAM or RTC > application seen in computers? I

Re: MTS

I didn't see that you had posted to any of the yahoogroups Hercules groups, and you may be lurking, but wanted to mention them. I can post all of the hercules groups or send them offline if you need. I'm aware of them, and have scanned a couple of the groups (how I found pointers to the VM

MTS

There have been a few references to MTS over the past couple of months that led me to suspect people are running it under Hercules. I did some poking around a while back and managed to find some tape images (bitsaver, I think), and did some cursory reading of the release notes. I think there