[cctalk] Re: Random items on Pascal #3

Norsk Data had at least two programming languages designed in-house: NPL and PLANC. These had some fairly unusual features, reflecting the hardware. Sent from my iPhone > On 10 May 2024, at 15:45, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > As for "language to the machine" that's pretty much unheard

[cctalk] Re: DOS p-System Pascal: (Was: Saga of CP/M)

The Sage machines had UCSD as one of their OS options (others were Mirage and probably also CP/M-68K). I've never heard of a native Pascal for Sage. Sage had a multi-user BIOS, so you could have several people sharing a single machine. They were also quite popular and successful for a while. >

[cctalk] Re: Vintage Computer Fest Midwest "DECnut" pizza party

> On 8 Sep 2023, at 15:20, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > > On 9/7/2023 9:20 PM, Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:49 PM ste...@malikoff.com steven--- via >> cctalk wrote: >>> Here in Oz, VAX has been a popular brand of vacuum cleaner for many >>> decades.

[cctalk] Re: Silly question about S-100 and video monitors

> On 2 Sep 2023, at 15:07, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > > On 9/1/2023 11:45 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote: >> My first computer was a Poly-88. I had no monitor and no keyboard. >> I read and understood the instructions about finding a TV that used a >> transformer power supply. Man

[cctalk] Re: Super I/O chips

The C256Foenix FMX uses a SuperIO chip: https://wiki.c256foenix.com/index.php?title=ICs > On 24 May 2023, at 12:18, emanuel stiebler via cctalk > wrote: > > Anybody out here, still in business using them? > Which ones are still easily available? > (I look for something which has 2 UARTs, FDC a

[cctalk] Re: what is on topic?

>From the headers of your message (and most likely the one you responded to): To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" List-Id: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Seems like this is the list for on-top

Re: BASIC environment ending with "run complete", and slashed 'O' characters?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDC_Kronos , perhaps? > On 26 Apr 2022, at 03:08, Jules Richardson via cctalk > wrote: > > > Perhaps a long shot, but I've got an old piece of paper here showing a BASIC > listing followed by a program run where the BAS

Re: 2 2010 macbook pro's --- vast performance differences....

It may be good idea to check the CPU temperature and the airflow inside the computer - dust buildup may reduce airflow and cooling, which in turn may cause CPU throttling. > On 21 Aug 2020, at 07:50, George Rachor via cctalk > wrote: > > I’ll check in the morning but believe the 2 machines ar

Re: HP 16C Badge (logo)

> On 10 Jul 2020, at 21:21 , William Sudbrink via cctalk > wrote: > > This is not exactly vintage computer, but it is very close. A friend just > gave me an HP 16C calculator in excellent, working condition, EXCEPT the 16C > badge (or logo if you prefer) is missing. I seem to recall that, s

Re: HELP needed on a vocabulary problem ;-)

"zebra connector", perhaps? On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:03 PM GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote: > The TECHNICAL problem : I am repairing a not so old electric typewriter. > I need to replace what I call : a flexible printed circuit ( strip / > ribbon / what's the "correct" word ??? ) *** AND *** the a

Re: Ciarcia Micromint (was: Steve Garcia / Micromint SB180

> On 3 Jul 2017, at 01:49 , John Wilson via cctalk > wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 03:54:44PM -0700, Fred Cisin wrote: >> On Sun, 2 Jul 2017, John Wilson wrote: >>> That sounds like the MPX16? I thought the SB180 was a Z180 thing. >> >> You're right. >> >> Sorry >> thinking about the wr

Re: Architectural diversity - was Re: Pair of Twiggys

> On 19 Mar 2017, at 16:14 , Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > >> On Mar 19, 2017, at 11:04 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk >> wrote: >> ... >> That's because, unlike the COBOL Professionals, the Fortran people drank from >> the OO KoolAid. > > Speaking of OO and COBOL, a colleage of mine

Re: Pair of Twiggys

> On 15 Mar 2017, at 16:37 , Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Raymond Wiker > >> Steve Jobs ... was also a stickler for perfection and largely unwilling >> to make compromises. > > Absolutely; and that's a large part of the reason for the s

Re: Pair of Twiggys

> On 14 Mar 2017, at 23:49 , TeoZ via cctalk wrote: > > Jobs had to get fired for Apple to recall the expansion capabilities of the > Apple II days and start making the Mac II series. Jobs left Apple in 1985 and returned in 1997. The Macintosh II was introduced in 1987; two years after Jobs le

Re: Pair of Twiggys

> On 14 Mar 2017, at 21:31 , Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > > (Every time I hear someone saying marketing people are useless - first up > against the wall, etc - I reply 'No, only bad ones - which is a lot of them. > The very best ones, like Steve Jobs, are worth their weight in triple-refi

Re: help needed installing USB to Serial Cable for ADTPro

> On 11 Mar 2017, at 06:39 , Joe Giliberti via cctalk > wrote: > > Greetings! > I am trying to connect my IIc to my laptop through ADTPro and am > having trouble getting the FT232R adapter I bought from Retro Floppy. > The host computer is an HP Elitebook running Windows 7 Pro 64-bit. > When I

Re: OT: RANT (Was: [cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org: confirm 38290c8a992491eda604beff5a06ff20cd7e85f5]

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:51 AM, Ian S. King wrote: > On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:24 PM, geneb wrote: > > > On Thu, 2 Feb 2017, Ian Finder wrote: > > > > WTF did I just read. > >> > >> Fred in absolutely rare form. I nearly choked on coffee at the > "yodeling > > jellyfish" bit. I'd give him fake i

Re: PS2 Model 30 memory

According to http://www.vcfed.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-28274.html , this machine has 128KB soldered in, and can optionally use 2 256KB SIMMs. If this is the case, I may have some SIMMs of the right type. Do you have the exact details of the correct SIMMs to use? On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:09 A

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

> On 16 Jan 2017, at 21:42 , Chris Hanson wrote: > > On Jan 12, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Raymond Wiker wrote: >> >> I've been following this topic, and suddenly realised… that I don't actually >> have any particularly rare or unusual items – the nearest I

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own? [Tek 4132]

> On 15 Jan 2017, at 17:23 , Al Kossow wrote: > > > > On 1/14/17 7:20 PM, allison wrote: > >> If the 32016 had a second generation > > It had several generations. The 32532 saw some use in laser printers. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NS320xx The

Re: What's the rarest or most unusual computer-related item do you own?

I've been following this topic, and suddenly realised… that I don't actually have any particularly rare or unusual items – the nearest I can think of is a Commodore N-60 navigation calculator, but I also have two early Apple IIs. If I can mention items that I have owned, the list becomes slightl

Re: National Semiconductor IMP mini

I see he also has an Apple II that he wants $2000 for --- it's listed as "NON WORKING ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS FROM EXTREME AGE", and from date codes and copyright markings it appears to be far from original. In fact, the motherboard seems to be a Rev 7 RFI motherboard, and the processor is (I think)

Re: The infinitely profitable program

> On 03 Jul 2016, at 01:00 , Eric Smith wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Eric Christopherson > wrote: >> Genius. But I would have thought CP/M would at least require a .com file to >> have a header. >> http://peetm.com/blog/?p=55 > > Multiple people independently invented the zero-b

Re: Model M Key Cap Replacement

> On 24 Jun 2016, at 19:01 , Ali wrote: > >> Unicomp still sells replacement caps ( >> http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/Buttons ), however I believe >> they have a minimum order amount (price). There are also the ever-so- >> hated keyboard forums where you can often post a "Looking for" a

Re: Apple & SGI keyboards (Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

> On 01 Jun 2016, at 16:46 , Liam Proven wrote: > > On 1 June 2016 at 00:16, Swift Griggs wrote: >> I've never >> known them to create "clackety" keyboards with mechanical switches > > But that's the point. This here Extended II has them, as did the > Extended I before it. (I have one of them

Re: Programming language failings [was Re: strangest systems I've sent email from]

> On 29 Apr 2016, at 22:31 , Diane Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 02:23:55PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Ian S. King wrote: >>> C is a lot like that saw - it doesn't have a lot of guards on it, and you >>> can do stupid things. >> >> The problem is t

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

> On 29 Apr 2016, at 22:24 , Paul Koning wrote: > >>> So does Pascal. >> >> Which didn't have a lot of the capabilities needed to be system language at >> _that point in time_ (remember, this is about 'why did C succeed, back >> then'); >> it was, after all, originally designed as a pedagogica

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

> On 29 Apr 2016, at 21:10 , Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Apr 29, 2016, at 3:01 PM, ben wrote: >> >> I liked Forth when it was still threaded. > > ??? > > Base FORTH is not, in and of itself, threaded. PolyFORTH was if memory > serves. Then again, creating a thread scheduler (cooperative

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

> On 29 Apr 2016, at 19:03 , Swift Griggs wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Raymond Wiker wrote: >> The regular expression support in Perl is implemented in C, and are >> supposedly fairly fast. > > They are faster than some, like Ruby and slower than others like &

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

> On 29 Apr 2016, at 16:05 , Swift Griggs wrote: > > While I know exactly what folks mean, I will attempt a weak defense. Perl > has extremely strong string manipulation features, including strong (and > easy) support for PCRE's. Those regex's are the main reason folks recoil > (because of ho

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

> On 27 Apr 2016, at 22:13 , Sean Conner wrote: > > COBRA was dead by the mid-90s and had nothing (that I know of) to do with > Linux. And the lumbering GUI apps, RPC, etc that you are complaining about > is the userland stuff---nothing to do with the Linux kernel (okay, perhaps > I'm nitpicki

Re: The Ivory Tower saga was Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

> On 26 Apr 2016, at 05:39 , Swift Griggs wrote: > > It's probably a bad idea to dismiss anyone's experience when you haven't > "walked a mile in his moccasins.", including mine. Though my attempt may > have been inarticulate, I was talking about my own experience in academia > and not tryin

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

Steve Ciarcia (BYTE) had a Z8000-based PC coprocessor ("Trump Card"?) which main purpose was (I think) to run BASIC programs faster. Another of those things that I wanted in the early 80s, along with a PC to use it with. On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > Would the Palantir

Re: ND-10 software - Re: Harris H800 Computer

> On 21 Apr 2016, at 14:43 , Mattis Lind wrote: > >>> >>> Hey, this is useful. >>> Thanks for doing it! >> >> Yep! >> Already investigating. IMD gave me some trouble, had to resort to >> dosbox. Source for PED (Programmer's Editor) version G? I've never >> seen source. I have version F as a :P

Re: Harris H800 Computer

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 6:46 AM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 11:21:03PM -0500, Kyle Owen wrote: > > I seem to have acquired a few boards from a decommissioned system. > > 74S00s, they were going for speed. > > The 2900s are the well-known bit-slice chips. > > All definitely the

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 08:34:00PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Mark Linimon > wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 03:54:40PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote: > > >> they were strictly 31-bit only. > > > > > > Dang,

Re: Virtualizing AIX 1.3 - WAS::::Re: AIX for IBM PS/2

> On 05 Feb 2016, at 18:34 , Guy Sotomayor wrote: > > >> On Feb 5, 2016, at 4:56 AM, Steven Hirsch wrote: >> >> On Thu, 4 Feb 2016, Kevin Bowling wrote: >> >>> This comes up often and usually with a lot of people that have no idea what >>> they are talking about chiming in that you are stupi

Re: Bull DPX/2 and B.O.S. help wanted.

This was from an install floppy, which means that it had (probably) only mounted a mini-root file system, and was (again, probably) running a shell with restricted functionality. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:28 AM, E. Groenenberg wrote: > Hello Pontus. > > As far as I remember, DPX/2 uses AT&T Syste

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

> On 04 Feb 2016, at 03:41 , Josh Dersch wrote: > > So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "larger" VAX and I'd > like to track down an 11/750 (or an 11/730). If anyone out there has one for > sale trade (in any condition apart from "pile of slag"), let me know. I have > D

Re: Building a PC - then & now

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Murray McCullough < c.murray.mccullo...@gmail.com> wrote: > I was reading in a dated magazine article on the "freedom to build(a > PC)": Well you can't build phone; can't build a car; can't build a > refrigerator; can't build a TV. Do we have the freedom to build