Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-10-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 2 Oct 2020 at 19:20, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > (For those are are not familiar with Mini-Unix and LSX, they are both V6 Unix > variants lobotomized to run on PDP-11's without memory management: Aha! Like this? https://hackaday.com/2018/06/03/its-unix-on-a-microcontroller/

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-10-02 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Liam Proven > for my continuing education: what's a "Mini-Unix binary"? Two possible meanings; a system image for a Mini-Unix system (buildable under V6 with the standard V6 tool-chain of C-compiler/assembler/linker), and user command binaries (buildable with the

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-10-02 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 at 00:58, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > No, it looks like it uses a different fie-system layout. > > Besides; there's not much point: the big adantage of using V6 is that one can > use the V6 tool-chain to prepare Mini-Unix binaries; XV6 wouldn't allow > that. If all one

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Liam Proven > Would the x86-32 "reimplementation" of v6 UNIX be able to mount and/or > read-write such filesystems? No, it looks like it uses a different fie-system layout. Besides; there's not much point: the big adantage of using V6 is that one can use the V6 tool-chain to

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 23:35, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > Good basic idea (using a different system to build on), but there's a > better/easier approach (in the same basic vein): bring up V6, and mount the RK > pack with Mini-Unix on it (it's a V6 file system, so is mountable); V6 is rock

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Warner Losh > If we can't use MINIUNIX to rebuild MINIUNIX kernel, should we try to > bodge together rebuilding via apout? Good basic idea (using a different system to build on), but there's a better/easier approach (in the same basic vein): bring up V6, and mount the RK pack

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
If we can't use MINIUNIX to rebuild MINIUNIX kernel, should we try to bodge together rebuilding via apout? I have done some work there for 2.11BSD stuff, but didn't need it for bootstrapping (just needed to use it to bootstrap as). Warner On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 2:09 PM Ray Jewhurst via cctalk <

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread Ray Jewhurst via cctalk
Where would one find these images? I would like to get them working on Simh. Thanks Ray On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 4:02 PM John Foust via cctalk wrote: > At 01:51 PM 9/30/2020, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >I guess all this PDP-11 hardware detail isn't really on-topic for this > list; I > >should move it

Re: [TUHS] Fwd: Choice of Unix for 11/03 and 11/23+ Systems

2020-09-30 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 01:51 PM 9/30/2020, Noel Chiappa wrote: >I guess all this PDP-11 hardware detail isn't really on-topic for this list; I >should move it to Classic Computers, or something. I've got Riordan's udis[01..10].DSK disk images that I presume are similar to