[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-15 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
> > Your original email with the link did not make it into the digest, which is > what I receive. > > Chirs, Did you also send it directly to Bill. Perhaps that is what he got. > > Bob Yes, sorry. I sent the follow-up hastily on an iPad, and the URL I thought I was pasting was an image

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-15 Thread dwight via cctalk
: Robert Feldman Subject: [cctalk] Re: WWVB >Message: 17 >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 12:52:15 -0500 >From: Bill Gunshannon >Subject: [cctalk] Re: WWVB >To: cctalk@classiccmp.org >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > >On 1/15/2024 10:47 AM

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-15 Thread Robert Feldman via cctalk
>Message: 17 >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 12:52:15 -0500 >From: Bill Gunshannon >Subject: [cctalk] Re: WWVB >To: cctalk@classiccmp.org >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > >On 1/15/2024 10:47 AM, Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: >>

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-15 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/15/2024 10:47 AM, Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: On Sunday (01/14/2024 at 09:55PM -0600), Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: There are a number of WWVB simulator projects out there that will transmit a weak but usable signal to your clock after getting sync’d from ntp or GPS NMEA time

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-15 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
On Sunday (01/14/2024 at 09:55PM -0600), Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: > There are a number of WWVB simulator projects out there that will transmit a > weak but usable signal to your clock after getting sync’d from ntp or GPS > NMEA time messages. They were developed to help people develop

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
January 2024 01:47 To: Jonathan Chapman via cctalk Cc: Nigel Johnson Ham Subject: [cctalk] Re: WWVB That would be good old MSF! https://www.npl.co.uk/msf-signal I wasn't aware of it being heard in NA though - maybe being in the great lakes is a bit too far. Bit it should still sync correctly

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
There are a number of WWVB simulator projects out there that will transmit a weak but usable signal to your clock after getting sync’d from ntp or GPS NMEA time messages. They were developed to help people develop receivers :-) One in particular uses an AVR and it should be pretty simple to

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Will Cooke and Jonathon Chapman explained it. A change to the protocol that old clocks don't know about. bill

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
That would be good old MSF! https://www.npl.co.uk/msf-signal I wasn't aware of it being heard in NA though - maybe being in the great lakes is a bit too far. Bit it should still sync correctly! cheers, Nigel On 2024-01-14 20:41, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk wrote: I agree with Don on the

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
> I agree with Don on the interference. We have a very high noise floor > here in Toronto as well as being on the fringe IIRC there's something on-frequency in England that often swamps WWVB on the northeastern part of North America, too! Thanks, Jonathan

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
I agree with Don on the interference. We have a very high noise floor here in Toronto as well as being on the fringe, and an older watch in the same window as my two Citizens frequently comes up with a fantastic date and time - possibly due to lack of data redundancy are error-checking. 73 de

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
I have two watches that sync to WWVB and they always agree with CHU on HF and a ham rig that syncs to GNSS. So I think it is bang on or there is a government conspiracy to make us late for work  樂 73 de ve3id On January 14, 2024 2:49:19 p.m. EST, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: This

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Don R via cctalk
I also have a decades old SkyScan WWVB LCD wall clock which has survived a few sets of leaking AA batteries :). It still keeps accurate, occasionally it doesn’t sync, though I think that can be chalked up to signal propagation. It’s possible the problem is interference EMF, RF etc. Try

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On 01/14/2024 1:54 PM CST Jonathan Chapman via cctalk > wrote: > > > Bill, > > If it's an older clock it's probably tripping over a timecode transmission > format/modulation change. I forget the exact details but changes were > required to my old 8085-based Spectracom receiver. > >

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
I have two watches that sync to WWVB and they always agree with CHU on HF and a ham rig that syncs to GNSS. So I think it is bang on or there is a government conspiracy to make us late for work 樂 On January 14, 2024 2:49:19 p.m. EST, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >This is kind

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 1/14/2024 2:54 PM, Jonathan Chapman via cctalk wrote: Bill, If it's an older clock it's probably tripping over a timecode transmission format/modulation change. I forget the exact details but changes were required to my old 8085-based Spectracom receiver. Thanks, that's probably it.

[cctalk] Re: WWVB

2024-01-14 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
Bill, If it's an older clock it's probably tripping over a timecode transmission format/modulation change. I forget the exact details but changes were required to my old 8085-based Spectracom receiver. Thanks, Jonathan On Sunday, January 14th, 2024 at 14:49, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk