Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-07 Thread r.stricklin via cctalk
On Dec 6, 2018, at 2:39 PM, r.stricklin wrote: > On Dec 6, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Josh Dersch via cctech wrote: > >> The Sun-1 absolutely had a framebuffer and a display and was not a >> text-only machine, it did 1024x800 at 1bpp, had a mouse, the whole deal. > > The bwone is a 1024x1024

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread r.stricklin via cctalk
On Dec 6, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Josh Dersch via cctech wrote: > The Sun-1 absolutely had a framebuffer and a display and was not a > text-only machine, it did 1024x800 at 1bpp, had a mouse, the whole deal. The bwone is a 1024x1024 framebuffer. 768 lines visible; the rest was offscreen. ok bear.

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 21:57, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Definitions tend to be RIGID, but completely arbitrary. > "MEGAPIXEL" is nice, but enough to EXCLUDE 1024 x 800 ? Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so. > "First": The author is unaware of anything prior, or all prior instances >

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
It???s a Sun-2 so it???s not really arguable whether it???s the first ever Sun workstation: It???s not. Definitions tend to be RIGID, but completely arbitrary. "MEGAPIXEL" is nice, but enough to EXCLUDE 1024 x 800 ? "First": The author is unaware of anything prior, or all prior instances were

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 19:55, Josh Dersch wrote: > > The Sun-1 absolutely had a framebuffer and a display and was not a text-only > machine, it did 1024x800 at 1bpp, had a mouse, the whole deal. > > See the picture in this article, for example: >

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:39 AM Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 12:44, Tony Duell wrote: > > > > I don't think anyone is questioning that it's a workstation, and that it > was > > made by Sun. > > > > I think the problem is over 'first' and that a Sun-2 is not going to be >

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
> On Dec 6, 2018, at 3:00 AM, Liam Proven via cctech > wrote: > >> On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 23:12, Chris Hanson wrote: >> >> It’s a Sun-2 so it’s not really arguable whether it’s the first ever Sun >> workstation: It’s not. > > Not my claim; the author of the video's. Take it up with him,

RE: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Paul Birkel via cctalk
-Original Message- From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of allison via cctech Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 9:13 AM To: cct...@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install) On 12/06/2018 07:28 AM

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 15:13, allison via cctech wrote: > During my days at DEC in the later 80s the definition of workstation was > 1MIPS processing power, > 1M pixels, Desktop or desk side (fairly compact). Graphics and > processing power were high > and lots of ram and sufficient local disk

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread allison via cctalk
On 12/06/2018 07:28 AM, Liam Proven via cctech wrote: > On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 12:44, Tony Duell wrote: >> I don't think anyone is questioning that it's a workstation, and that it was >> made by Sun. >> >> I think the problem is over 'first' and that a Sun-2 is not going to be the >> 'first'

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 12:44, Tony Duell wrote: > > I don't think anyone is questioning that it's a workstation, and that it was > made by Sun. > > I think the problem is over 'first' and that a Sun-2 is not going to be the > 'first' model. Ah! Excellent point. I have to admit, I was totally

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:19 AM Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 23:12, Chris Hanson wrote: > > > > It’s a Sun-2 so it’s not really arguable whether it’s the first ever Sun > > workstation: It’s not. > > Not my claim; the author of the video's. Take it up with him, if >

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-06 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 at 23:12, Chris Hanson wrote: > > It’s a Sun-2 so it’s not really arguable whether it’s the first ever Sun > workstation: It’s not. Not my claim; the author of the video's. Take it up with him, if you're on the Rescue List. But I am mildly curious what your definition of a

Re: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-05 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:59 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > I thought folk might enjoy this short-ish (~12min) Youtube video > showing startup of arguably the first ever Sun workstation It’s a Sun-2 so it’s not really arguable whether it’s the first ever Sun workstation: It’s not. --

Fwd: [rescue] Sun2/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install)

2018-12-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
/120 SunOS 3.2 suntools movie (was: advise on Sun2 disk install) To: The Rescue List Hi, Another update in case you are interested: I rescued a keyboard and mouse to go with the Sun2. I also installed SunOS 3.2 on disk. I took a different route: I installed FreeBSD, installed tme on top