Re: APL and descendants - was Re: If C is so evil why is it so successful?

2017-04-14 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
Love to have my Selectric in a desk APL terminal again. -pete On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 2:02 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > To my knowledge, there is only one person that claims to > > have a cartridge for the APL on the VideoBrain. He considers it > > more valuable than

Re: APL and descendants - was Re: If C is so evil why is it so successful?

2017-04-14 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2017-04-14 5:02 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: To my knowledge, there is only one person that claims to have a cartridge for the APL on the VideoBrain. He considers it more valuable than gold and won't let anyone look at it or dump its contents. I never understood this self-defeating

Re: APL and descendants - was Re: If C is so evil why is it so successful?

2017-04-14 Thread Ed via cctalk
At SMECC we have a very curious laptop with a little tape drive in it that seems to take small dictation size tapes. The little laptop has a rounded top to it. Mfr name on tip of tongue ... but ... It live in one of the Glass chasses .. wonder how scarce they are? only seen the

Re: APL and descendants - was Re: If C is so evil why is it so successful?

2017-04-14 Thread dwight via cctalk
To my knowledge, there is only one person that claims to have a cartridge for the APL on the VideoBrain. He considers it more valuable than gold and won't let anyone look at it or dump its contents. Such code running on a VideoBrain would surely warrant the /S label for "Small". Without some

Re: APL and descendants - was Re: If C is so evil why is it so successful?

2017-04-14 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 04/14/2017 08:09 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > For that matter, APL itself also still exists, the OpenAPL open > source implementation for example. Works nicely. ...but reduced to a marginal language. I wonder if there's any JOVIAL still in use... --Chuck

Re: APL and descendants - was Re: If C is so evil why is it so successful?

2017-04-14 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2017-04-13 6:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> ... >> ...or that Iverson language, APL, present on the 5100 and what was >> probably one of the the first microcomputers, the MCM/70. >> >> So,

Re: APL and descendants - was Re: If C is so evil why is it so successful?

2017-04-13 Thread Eric Christopherson via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. via cctalk wrote: > Toby Thain via cctalk wrote on Thu, 13 Apr 2017 19:34:08 -0400 > > On 2017-04-13 6:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > > So, whence APL today? > > > > Still lives on -- Dyalog, J, K, etc. Recently discovered the #jsoftware > >

APL and descendants - was Re: If C is so evil why is it so successful?

2017-04-13 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr. via cctalk
Toby Thain via cctalk wrote on Thu, 13 Apr 2017 19:34:08 -0400 > On 2017-04-13 6:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > So, whence APL today? > > Still lives on -- Dyalog, J, K, etc. Recently discovered the #jsoftware > channel on Freenode for APL fans. I consider Matlab and Julia to be

APL and descendants - was Re: If C is so evil why is it so successful?

2017-04-13 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2017-04-13 6:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 04/13/2017 02:19 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: While one might argue the proliferation of BASIC on micros followed from BG/PA & SW/SJ, I'd say their implementations were following a trend rather than initiating it. BASIC was gaining