Commercial touchscreens (was Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?)

2019-10-21 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
Boundless made CRT kits for decades They are also on HP 16500 logic analyzers I had a prototype IR touchscreen monitor for the Alto, but stupidly didn't hang onto it. On 10/21/19 10:30 AM, Patrick Finnegan via cctalk wrote: > I've got a VT100 with a (3rd party?) IR-LED based touch screen

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-21 Thread Patrick Finnegan via cctalk
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 12:49 PM Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > And what sort of technology was that screen using? I expected to see > > the grid array of outer infrared LEDs and detectors that I vaguely remember > > from that era, but I don't see that here. Someone was making a tube > >

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-21 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 11:51 AM 10/21/2019, Tony Duell wrote: >> Theinfrared array you're thinking of was invented at PLATO, for flat panel >> (plasma) displays. They don't work for CRTs because of the convex screen. > >My HP150 will have to disagree with you there.

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-21 Thread Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk
On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:51 AM Tony Duell via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Theinfrared array you're thinking of was invented at PLATO, for flat > panel (plasma) displays. They don't work for CRTs because of the convex > screen. > > My HP150 will have to disagree with you there. >

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-21 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 21, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Tony Duell via cctalk > wrote: > >> Theinfrared array you're thinking of was invented at PLATO, for flat panel >> (plasma) displays. They don't work for CRTs because of the convex screen. > > My HP150 will have to disagree with you there. > > -tony I

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-21 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
> Theinfrared array you're thinking of was invented at PLATO, for flat panel > (plasma) displays. They don't work for CRTs because of the convex screen. My HP150 will have to disagree with you there. -tony

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-21 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 21, 2019, at 12:19 PM, John Foust via cctalk > wrote: > > > And what sort of technology was that screen using? I expected to see > the grid array of outer infrared LEDs and detectors that I vaguely remember > from that era, but I don't see that here. Someone was making a tube >

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-21 Thread John Foust via cctalk
And what sort of technology was that screen using? I expected to see the grid array of outer infrared LEDs and detectors that I vaguely remember from that era, but I don't see that here. Someone was making a tube that was coarsely touch-sensitive? - John

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-20 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 03:47:06PM -0400, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > You are probably right about the 6809, the stuff I worked on was all in I knew one of the developers who was working on the 6809's. OS/9 was a very cool OS as it was very Unix like. > the development stages for the

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-20 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
You are absolutely right about the economics! The only one I ever saw in operation was in the Eaton Centre in Toronto, just around the corner from the Bell Simcoe office where I worked on the server! cheers, Nigel On 20/10/2019 15:20, Wayne S via cctalk wrote: As an FYI, the YouTube

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2019-10-20 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
As an FYI, the YouTube comments description of the system is: "Published on Oct 19, 2019 10/9/1985: Farm Fresh grocery stores unveil new cutting-edge technology: store kiosks that help shoppers map out where to find items in their stores. The kiosks appear to be running Apple II software."

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-20 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
You are probably right about the 6809, the stuff I worked on was all in the development stages for the project, and at the server end.  I did field engineering for Transduction, and we supplied equipment to Norpak, although I can't for the life of me remember what!  I remember going to visit

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-20 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2019-Oct-20, at 9:14 AM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > On 20/10/2019 06:43, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 02:23:46PM -0400, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: >>> Judging by the year, it was probably a teletext terminal. [...] >> It's not Teletext, unless that word

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-20 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 12:14:53PM -0400, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > It was called teletext despite the implications, at least here in > Canada.  People just couldn't get their tongue around NAPLPS! More widely known as Telidon despite it being called NAPLPS.

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-20 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
It was called teletext despite the implications, at least here in Canada.  People just couldn't get their tongue around NAPLPS! It looks just like the teletext systems I worked on, maybe ours was better than yours? cheers, Nigel On 20/10/2019 06:43, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: On

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-20 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 02:23:46PM -0400, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > Judging by the year, it was probably a teletext terminal. [...] It's not Teletext, unless that word means something different on the other side of the Pond. Teletext was basically a text system (the hint's in the name)

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-19 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Are you sure it wasn't the massive over-funding by government that killed it? On 19/10/2019 14:35, ben via cctalk wrote: On 10/19/2019 12:23 PM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: Judging by the year, it was probably a teletext terminal. There were various field trials of such systems around

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-19 Thread ben via cctalk
On 10/19/2019 12:23 PM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: Judging by the year, it was probably a teletext terminal. There were various field trials of such systems around that era.  We had one in Toronto's Eaton Centre - it was based on NAPLPS, and used a PDP11/23. There was a lot of Canadian

Re: Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-19 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Judging by the year, it was probably a teletext terminal. There were various field trials of such systems around that era.  We had one in Toronto's Eaton Centre - it was based on NAPLPS, and used a PDP11/23.  There was a lot of Canadian Government money put into research to promote he Canadian

Anyone familiar with these vintage touchscreens?

2019-10-19 Thread Jonathan Katz via cctalk
Hi! I saw this crop up on twitter and now I’m curious. Anyone familiar with these? Any idea what the backend was? https://twitter.com/newsfedora/status/1154813199054712833?s=21 -- -Jon +44 7792 149029