RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-28 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rob Jarratt > via cctalk > Sent: 28 June 2017 19:12 > To: 'shad' <shado...@gmail.com>; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts' <cctalk@classiccmp.org>

RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-28 Thread shadoooo via cctalk
Hello, now you could try to check the voltages again, just to be sure the fault is not on the 245. Following the traces is of course obviously difficult, but if the board is really only two-sided (no internal signal layers), components are not too high, and you have a flatbed scanner, you could

RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-26 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctech [mailto:cctech-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of shad > via cctech > Sent: 26 June 2017 21:57 > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas? > > Hello Rob, > if you are uncomfortable with sold

RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-26 Thread shadoooo via cctalk
Hello Rob, if you are uncomfortable with soldering, I can replace the IC for you. Just ship me the board, I will desolder it. bye Andrea

Re: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 25/06/2017 11:46, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: I have done a bit more tracing of components and have come across a possibly anomaly. The signal that won't go low enough goes to the input (pin 2) of a 74LS125 buffer. OK, for SOIC parts, here's my technique. (I've had to replace quite a

RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Dave Wade [mailto:dave.g4...@gmail.com] > Sent: 25 June 2017 20:26 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; 'Rob Jarratt' <robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com>; 'General > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: RE:

Re: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Heheh, that's a cool idea. I use a post-it note, sliding a non-sticky side under the pins (from the rear of said pins) as I drag the iron across all the pins. =] On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 11:27 AM Pete Turnbull via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 25/06/2017 11:46, Rob Jarratt via

RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
e 2017 11:47 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > <cctalk@classiccmp.org>; 'Ian S. King' <isk...@uw.edu> > Subject: RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas? > > > > > Thanks Ian. Unfortunately I don't know of any schematics. I suspect > > you are ri

Re: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 06/25/2017 11:41 AM, Rob Jarratt wrote: > Thanks Chuck, I had seen some mention of Chip Quik. You say soldering a new > part is straightforward, but I am not clear how that works, is the solder > left behind on the pads so you just heat the pins? As mentioned, I use the toothbrush to scrub

RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> When replacing components on an SMD board, I prefer to use a low-temp > fusible alloy such as "Chip Quik": > > http://www.chipquik.com/store/ > > A nice kit, but really, any low temp fusible alloy will work. I use > Cerrobend as a > powder, packed around the IC. > >

Re: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 06/25/2017 09:24 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > Thanks Pete, so there is enough of a chance that I have found the > culprit to make it worth the effort of desoldering it. > > I have been wondering for a while about getting a hot air rework > station. There are lots of cheap Chinese ones

RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pete > Turnbull via cctalk > Sent: 25 June 2017 16:12 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas? > > As soon as I saw "74LS125"

Re: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 25/06/2017 11:46, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: I have done a bit more tracing of components and have come across a possibly anomaly. The signal that won't go low enough goes to the input (pin 2) of a 74LS125 buffer. As soon as I saw "74LS125" I thought, "Oh, yes, another one". That's a

RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> Thanks Ian. Unfortunately I don't know of any schematics. I suspect you are > right about it being a wire-OR because the documentation for the P82C206 says > its output is tri-state. As everything is soldered on rather than socketed > (except > the ROMs) I am not sure I can measure any

RE: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-25 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Ian S. King [mailto:isk...@uw.edu] > Sent: 25 June 2017 01:07 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt <robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com>; General > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re:

Re: DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-24 Thread Ian S. King via cctalk
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > As I mentioned in an earlier email, I have been trying to fix a DECstation > 220. I have made what I think may be some progress, but I am out of ideas > now. > > > > The problem appears to be that the 80286

DECstation 220 - Out of Ideas?

2017-06-24 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
As I mentioned in an earlier email, I have been trying to fix a DECstation 220. I have made what I think may be some progress, but I am out of ideas now. The problem appears to be that the 80286 CPU is shutting down and then the Olivetti chip is RESETting it repeatedly. The reason for this