Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-20 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Paul Birkel >> I will upload the content to the CHW (and add the DB9 pinouts, too). > Yes, please. OK, done; see: http://gunkies.org/wiki/DEC_asynchronous_serial_line_pinout and it references the new: http://gunkies.org/wiki/EIA_RS-232_serial_line_interface I'd be

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-17 Thread william degnan
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Noel Chiappa <j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote: > > William Degnan > > > Update: I now have .. a working .. DL11 (M7800) > > What did the problem turn out to be (or is this a different one)? > > Different one, using same j

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-17 Thread Noel Chiappa
> William Degnan > Update: I now have .. a working .. DL11 (M7800) What did the problem turn out to be (or is this a different one)? If the latter, do you have any use for a 5-instruction 'scope loop program which sends characters continuously, which you can toggle in, to help

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-17 Thread william degnan
. A year or two ago I made a cable back before I found this nice DEC branded version so I went through the pin assignment fun then. Update: I now have both a working DL11-W (M7856) and an DL11 (M7800) who connect to my terminal through the DEC cable with part number BC03L-10. I have loaded PD

RE: DL11 M7800

2016-06-16 Thread tony duell
> > > > The original cable, p/n is a 174-1 flat cable with Berg connectors on > > either end so I had to find something compatible with a terminal instead. > > I switched in the same BC03L-10 that I have been using to connect to a > > 25-pin terminal (with null modem adapter) using a newer

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-16 Thread william degnan
> > Check the cable, if it's not the one you used with the other > serial port card. > > -tony > Tony, Thanks for the tips. The card may have bad component(s) but at least it had not yet been previously repaired when the unit was in production. I find "vintage" repairs from back in their day

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-16 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:58 AM, william degnan wrote: > >> >> Check the cable, if it's not the one you used with the other >> serial port card. >> > > The original cable, p/n is a 174-1 flat cable with Berg connectors on > either end so I had to find something

RE: DL11 M7800

2016-06-16 Thread tony duell
> This further helps my understanding. Problem is, the card is bad. Knowing > it's probably jumpered correctly (assuming I have everything right, which > is a big assumption) I will check the 1488/89 drivers, etc. to see what's > wrong with the card. What I would do is : Check that there are

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-16 Thread william degnan
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: William Degnan > > > If I understand correctly, the first DL might be for example a TU58 > or > > other serial device. > > Well, DL11's long predate TU58's, and the 'first' DL11 would almost >

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-16 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan > If I understand correctly, the first DL might be for example a TU58 or > other serial device. Well, DL11's long predate TU58's, and the 'first' DL11 would almost certainly have been connected to a terminal, but yes, basically. > The console = 0, the

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-16 Thread william degnan
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: William Degnan > > >>> Is there a table with the jumpers and values somewhere? > > >> No, but I'll whip one up and stick it on the Computer History wiki. > > > Many would appreciate this I

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-16 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan >>> Is there a table with the jumpers and values somewhere? >> No, but I'll whip one up and stick it on the Computer History wiki. > Many would appreciate this I bet. I'm sure I would have - I, like a lot of others, struggled with the address/vector

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Henk Gooijen <henk.gooi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: william degnan Sent: Wednesday, > June 15, 2016 5:35 PM To: cctech Subject: DL11 M7800 > OK. I must be missing something here > > Does anyone have a M780

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: william degnan Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:35 PM To: cctech Subject: DL11 M7800 OK. I must be missing something here Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd with the default address for use as a serial terminal

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: William Degnan > > >> For 777560/60 (standard for the console), you want A7/A3 and V4/V5 > >> 'in'. > > > I intend to use a serial terminal to access the console via M912 > > CONSOLE ROM.

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan >> For 777560/60 (standard for the console), you want A7/A3 and V4/V5 >> 'in'. > I intend to use a serial terminal to access the console via M912 > CONSOLE ROM. Got it; that would mean you're wanting the standard console. > I believe you're saying

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread william degnan
OK. > For 777560/60 (standard for the console), you want A7/A3 and V4/V5 'in'. I intend to use a serial terminal to access the console via M912 CONSOLE ROM. I believe you're saying to connect A7/A3 and V4/V5, but I still don't understand the pattern. What would A4, A5, A6 and V7, V6, V3

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan > OMG Yeah, but look at it this way: their being inverted can be a memory jogger - 'Oh, the DL11, that effed-up interface where the jumper sense is inverted between address and vector!' Then you only have to look up one of the two.. :-) > Yes, so I can use a

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: William Degnan > > > Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd > with > > the default address for use as a serial terminal interface? > > Yup. (And BTW the baud's not

Re: DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: William Degnan > Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd with > the default address for use as a serial terminal interface? Yup. (And BTW the baud's not jumpers, it's the dials.) > I understand the other jumpers on the card, but the address and

DL11 M7800

2016-06-15 Thread william degnan
OK. I must be missing something here Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd with the default address for use as a serial terminal interface? I understand the other jumpers on the card, but the address and vector jumpers confuse me. I can't seem to find a table or a