On 12/23/2016 02:30 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>
>> At the time, I was in my (almost) young teens - and at least in the
>> circles
>> I traveled, the TRS-80 / Osborne and Kaypro were viewed as boring,
>> stodgy
>> machines without any redeeming entertainment qualities - no color
>> graphics,
>> no sprit
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Commodore's Z80 in the 128 was due to unnecessary fear that they might lose
market share to CP/M, when IBM should have been their big worry.
I don't know all of the details of the ST/Amiga technology swap, but BOTH
were too late, if the primary goal was
On 24 December 2016 at 05:02, geneb wrote:
>> Commodore's Z80 in the 128 was due to unnecessary fear that they might
>> lose market share to CP/M, when IBM should have been their big worry.
>> I don't know all of the details of the ST/Amiga technology swap, but BOTH
>> were too late, if the primar
> > Commodore's Z80 in the 128 was due to unnecessary fear that they might lose
> > market share to CP/M, when IBM should have been their big worry.
> > I don't know all of the details of the ST/Amiga technology swap, but BOTH
> > were too late, if the primary goal was competing with IBM.
>
> Tha
Commodore's Z80 in the 128 was due to unnecessary fear that they might lose
market share to CP/M, when IBM should have been their big worry.
I don't know all of the details of the ST/Amiga technology swap, but BOTH
were too late, if the primary goal was competing with IBM.
That might be Commodo
On 24/12/2016 8:32 AM, "Fred Cisin" wrote:
NO source is completely reliable.
>>
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016, allison wrote:
Most number and data I see to day in the popular media is just plain wrong.
>
particularly on anything like this.
Surely, there must have been some [relatively] objective compi
NO source is completely reliable.
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016, allison wrote:
Most number and data I see to day in the popular media is just plain wrong.
particularly on anything like this.
Surely, there must have been some [relatively] objective compilations of
the sales data?
On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> Of the original "Big three" (Radio Shack, Apple, Commodore), who came
> first, Apple was the only one with entertainment capabilities, but they
> priced it out of your market.
>
I'm not sure about that. My friends and I entertained ourselves
I knew my last missive would provoke at least one or two interesting (if
not informative) responses. Yours was no exception, and I thank you for it.
not informative responses are inevitable
For one, I hadn't known that CP/M was written originally to the 8080.. I'd
always assumed it originated
On 12/23/2016 07:18 AM, Tor Arntsen wrote:
> On 23 December 2016 at 05:45, drlegendre . wrote:
> urs was no exception, and I thank you for it.
>> For one, I hadn't known that CP/M was written originally to the 8080.. I'd
>> always assumed it originated on the Z80.
> There are only 8080 instruction
On 12/22/2016 11:37 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> NO source is completely reliable.
>
>
>> http://jeremyreimer.com/m-item.lsp?i=137
> http://jeremyreimer.com/uploads/notes-on-sources.txt
>
> He does provide some information on his sources.
>
> When we talk about sales, are we talking about UNITS, or abou
On 12/22/2016 11:04 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> We all hang out with people who are smart enough to see things the
> same way that we do. Accordingly, our choices in computers, cars,
> cellphone providers always look to us like the MAJORITY. They are
> the BEST, and certainly the MOST POPULAR [among
On 23 December 2016 at 05:45, drlegendre . wrote:
urs was no exception, and I thank you for it.
>
> For one, I hadn't known that CP/M was written originally to the 8080.. I'd
> always assumed it originated on the Z80.
There are only 8080 instructions in CP/M, not a single Z80-specific
instruction
@Grumpy Old Fred
I knew my last missive would provoke at least one or two interesting (if
not informative) responses. Yours was no exception, and I thank you for it.
For one, I hadn't known that CP/M was written originally to the 8080.. I'd
always assumed it originated on the Z80. And I don't dou
I’ll chime in on the Z80 preference, since I was there at the time. In the very
early 1980s, when I was about 15, my father decided to buy a home computer.
(Before that, he had a TI Silent 700 that dialed up to a Univac mainframe.) I
remember him doing hours of research comparing the Apple II, t
NO source is completely reliable.
http://jeremyreimer.com/m-item.lsp?i=137
http://jeremyreimer.com/uploads/notes-on-sources.txt
He does provide some information on his sources.
When we talk about sales, are we talking about UNITS, or about dollars?
(an important distinction for such as the Z
We all hang out with people who are smart enough to see things the same
way that we do. Accordingly, our choices in computers, cars, cellphone
providers always look to us like the MAJORITY. They are the BEST, and
certainly the MOST POPULAR [among everybody that WE hang out with], but
not nec
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