RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-31 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
> Jon Elson wrote: >The VAX 11/780 absolutely had power fail, and it DID work. So did the 11/730 and I imagine the 750 as well. No core, but there was a battery backup option to keep main memory alive and refreshed even in the event of power failure. >I did this quite often while swapping

Re: H7874 power supply

2020-03-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 03/30/2020 11:49 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Thise signals don't seem like a problem: just hardwire them to the desired logic level. PDP-11s need a real functioning DCOK signal iff you want to do power fail interrupt handling, otherwise they don't. Do VAXen have power fail

Re: H7874 power supply

2020-03-30 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Vectoring through 24 was very important back in the core memory days when the memory would still be there after a power failure and you wnated the system to keep running, as was our Ontario Bellboy paging controller. cheers, Nigel On 30/03/2020 12:49, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On

Re: H7874 power supply

2020-03-30 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 30, 2020, at 10:17 AM, Robert Armstrong via cctalk > wrote: > >> Looks like for this enclosure an ATX supply could well work. >> For my VAX my notes say it didn't. > > A VAX would certainly be harder. You'd have to kludge up the ACOK and DCOK > signals for one thing, which I

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-30 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
>Looks like for this enclosure an ATX supply could well work. > For my VAX my notes say it didn't. A VAX would certainly be harder. You'd have to kludge up the ACOK and DCOK signals for one thing, which I don't think the R400x uses. It'd be really handy to find even a schematic for the

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-30 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctech On Behalf Of Robert > Armstrong via cctech > Sent: 29 March 2020 23:15 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' > ; 'Maciej W. Rozycki' > Subject: RE: H7874 power supply > > Remembering that I have

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
...@ntlworld.com] Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 2:05 PM To: b...@jfcl.com; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts'; 'Maciej W. Rozycki' Cc: r...@jarratt.me.uk Subject: RE: H7874 power supply I have some notes I made about trying a PC PSU, I don't think it really worked, there are signals to indicate power OK

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Robert > Armstrong via cctech > Sent: 29 March 2020 19:15 > To: 'Maciej W. Rozycki' ; 'General Discussion: On- > Topic Posts' > Cc: r...@jarratt.me.uk > Subject: RE: H7874 power supply > > >Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > >numerous Chemi-Con SXF parts scattered across all

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
; Rozycki via cctech > Sent: 29 March 2020 17:18 > To: b...@jfcl.com; General Discussion: On-Topic Posts > > Cc: r...@jarratt.me.uk > Subject: RE: H7874 power supply > > On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, Robert Armstrong via cctech wrote: > > > And then there's a giant PCB, alm

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
>Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: >numerous Chemi-Con SXF parts scattered across >all boards, some leaking Yeah, mine is full of "Nippon Chemi-Con" electrolytic too. What about just gutting the PS chassis and sticking in an ATX power supply? I don't know how the maximum current per output

Re: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 29, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Robert Armstrong via cctech > wrote: > >> Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: >> numerous Chemi-Con SXF parts scattered across >> all boards, some leaking > > Yeah, mine is full of "Nippon Chemi-Con" electrolytic too. > > What about just gutting the PS chassis and

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020, Robert Armstrong via cctech wrote: > And then there's a giant PCB, almost 11" square, covered with opamps, 74LS > logic and discrete parts. There are filter caps, a transformer, and > switching transistors on this board too so it obviously produces yet another > power

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
> Rob Jarratt >robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > I reverse engineered the schematic of the 12V output board. I >don't know if that would be of any use? How correct it is I don't know. Sure, if you don't mind sharing. Everything helps. Looks like there are five separate PCBs in there.

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
OK, I posted it here: https://robs-old-computers.com/2020/03/29/h7874-power-supply/ > -Original Message- > From: Robert Armstrong > Sent: 29 March 2020 15:44 > To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts' > > Subject: RE: H7874 power supply

Re: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Rob Jarratt via cctech wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctech On Behalf Of Robert > > Armstrong via cctech > > Sent: 29 March 2020 02:29 > > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > > Subject: H7874 power supply > > > > D

RE: H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctech On Behalf Of Robert > Armstrong via cctech > Sent: 29 March 2020 02:29 > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > Subject: H7874 power supply > > Does anybody have a maintenance print or service manual for the DEC > H7874? >

H7874 power supply

2020-03-29 Thread Robert Armstrong via cctalk
Does anybody have a maintenance print or service manual for the DEC H7874? This is the power supply used in the BA4xx and R400x cabinets. As you might guess, I have one that tries to power up but shuts down after a second. Probably a bad capacitor (or several), but this thing is ridiculously