Re: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-09 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2019-06-08 5:40 p.m., Chris Elmquist via cctalk wrote: On Friday (06/07/2019 at 11:01AM -0700), CuriousMarc via cctalk wrote: I wondered if it's actually a digtal watch chip (2.5V could have been a couple of mercury cells in series, LED watches were not uncommon back then). In which case

Re: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-08 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
On Friday (06/07/2019 at 11:01AM -0700), CuriousMarc via cctalk wrote: > > > > I wondered if it's actually a digtal watch chip (2.5V could have been a > > couple > > of mercury cells in series, LED watches were not uncommon back then). > > > > In which case it would not normally have come in a

RE: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-07 Thread CuriousMarc via cctalk
> > I wondered if it's actually a digtal watch chip (2.5V could have been a couple > of mercury cells in series, LED watches were not uncommon back then). > > In which case it would not normally have come in a 0.6" wide DIP. Perhaps > normally it was a bare chip directly mounted on the watch

Re: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-07 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 6:50 PM CuriousMarc wrote: > > >The clock chip seems to be a normal digital watch/clock chip. The inputs to > >it are essentially the 'set' buttons, the outputs are the 7 segment lines and > >digit strobes. But I have not found a data sheet on it anywhere. > Tony, looks

RE: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-07 Thread CuriousMarc via cctalk
gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2019 8:25 PM To: CuriousMarc; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 8:57 PM CuriousMarc via cctalk wrote: > > All HP fans in general and Tony in particular, > I h

Re: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-06 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 9:57 PM Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > HP were fond of using NiCds as shunt regulators at that time. The did > it in many of > their handheld calculators (HP20 series 'Woodstock', HP30 series > 'Spice', etc). In > those it wasn't normally a problem (the calculator

Re: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-06 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 4:44 AM Curious Marc wrote: > > Thanks, I’ll see if I can find replacements. You can easily see how they get > zapped: they are 2.5V chips, the NiCd battery *is* the voltage regulator. > Charging circuit is a simple diode connected to 5V via a resistor. Battery > dies,

Re: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-06 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
Thanks, I’ll see if I can find replacements. You can easily see how they get zapped: they are 2.5V chips, the NiCd battery *is* the voltage regulator. Charging circuit is a simple diode connected to 5V via a resistor. Battery dies, goes high impedance, somebody plugs it in to try it out and

Re: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-06 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 8:57 PM CuriousMarc via cctalk wrote: > > All HP fans in general and Tony in particular, > I have the exact same problem. HP98035 real time clock module > (http://hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=168), plugged into a HP9825T > (http://hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=171),

RE: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-06 Thread CuriousMarc via cctalk
ctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul Berger via cctalk Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2019 1:28 PM To: CuriousMarc via cctalk Subject: Re: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip Are you able to set the date and time on your clock? I had disconnected one end of the diode in the char

Re: HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-06 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
Are you able to set the date and time on your clock?  I had disconnected one end of the diode in the charge circuit and powered the clock from a lithium primary cell.  I got all 8s when the battery went dead but when it was in that state when I tried to set the date and time any commands after

HP98035 Real Time clock and AC5954N clock chip

2019-06-06 Thread CuriousMarc via cctalk
All HP fans in general and Tony in particular, I have the exact same problem. HP98035 real time clock module (http://hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=168), plugged into a HP9825T (http://hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=171), accepts commands, reads back all 8's. Battery is new, is charging and at