Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-02 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 1, 2019, at 10:17 PM, Jim Manley via cctalk > wrote: > > RISC was never just about compiler and hardware simplification for improved > performance of the most frequently-executed instructions. It's also been > front-and-center in low-power (e.g., mobile) and embedded (now including

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/1/19 7:17 PM, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: > RISC was never just about compiler and hardware simplification for improved > performance of the most frequently-executed instructions. John Cocke is rolling over in his grave.

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 7:18 PM Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: > RISC was never just about compiler and hardware simplification for improved > performance of the most frequently-executed instructions. It's also been > front-and-center in low-power (e.g., mobile) and embedded (now including >

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Jim Manley via cctalk
RISC was never just about compiler and hardware simplification for improved performance of the most frequently-executed instructions. It's also been front-and-center in low-power (e.g., mobile) and embedded (now including Internet of Things) applications, which each far outpace the number of

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Jan 1, 2019, at 2:35 PM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk > wrote: > >> I was never a fan of RISC architecture as does not fit the standard high >> level language model. Everybody wants a 1 pass compiler, thus the RISC >> model. If you are doing your own RISC model, you might consider a model >>

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Jan 1, 2019, at 2:00 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > On 1/1/2019 8:58 AM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote: >> hi >> on DTB we are designing a RISC-ish CPU, code name "Arise-v2"(1). >> We are using the MIPS R2K and the RISC-V as the reference. >> In the end, it will be implemented in HDL ->

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread ben via cctalk
On 1/1/2019 8:58 AM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote: hi on DTB we are designing a RISC-ish CPU, code name "Arise-v2"(1). We are using the MIPS R2K and the RISC-V as the reference. In the end, it will be implemented in HDL -> FPGA. The page on DTB is related to a software emulator (written in C)

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
Any chance of getting the list to add 'monthly digest' format? 12 doses of this a year would be about right. On 1/1/19 9:13 AM, Carlo Pissant wrote: > yes, but I prefer a printed copy > >> I have difficulties at finding user manuals and books about it. >>> >>

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2019-01-01 1:08 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jan 2019, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: >> There are these things called "printers." > > A lot of them are getting on in years and getting kinda cranky. Speaking of which, it's a new year, can we not prolong this thread into a 100

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 1 Jan 2019, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: There are these things called "printers." A lot of them are getting on in years and getting kinda cranky. There has been a decline in their business due to copy machines for small to medium volume, and overseas competition. But some of them

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Carlo Pisani via cctalk
I am looking for original printed copy Il giorno mar 1 gen 2019 alle ore 18:31 Josh Dersch via cctalk ha scritto: > > There are these things called "printers." > > - Josh > > On 1/1/2019 9:13 AM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote: > > yes, but I prefer a printed copy > > > > Il giorno mar 1 gen 2019

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
There are these things called "printers." - Josh On 1/1/2019 9:13 AM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote: yes, but I prefer a printed copy Il giorno mar 1 gen 2019 alle ore 18:08 Al Kossow via cctalk ha scritto: On 1/1/19 7:58 AM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote: hi As a second reference, I'd

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
There are these things called "printers." - Josh On 1/1/2019 9:13 AM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote: yes, but I prefer a printed copy Il giorno mar 1 gen 2019 alle ore 18:08 Al Kossow via cctalk ha scritto: On 1/1/19 7:58 AM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote: hi As a second reference, I'd

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Carlo Pisani via cctalk
yes, but I prefer a printed copy Il giorno mar 1 gen 2019 alle ore 18:08 Al Kossow via cctalk ha scritto: > > > > On 1/1/19 7:58 AM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote: > > hi > > > As a second reference, I'd like to consider the first Motorola RISC: > > 88K, which is very elegant and neat ISA;

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/1/19 7:58 AM, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote: > hi > As a second reference, I'd like to consider the first Motorola RISC: > 88K, which is very elegant and neat ISA; unfortunately, I have > difficulties at finding user manuals and books about it. >

Re: Motorola M88K books & user manuals (looking for)

2019-01-01 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
Well as it turns out I have several boxes of databooks that I need to get catalogued and listed. (My decluttering task was supposed to be finished *last* year ...) Here we have: MC88100 RISC Microprocessor User's Manual MC88200 Cache/Memory Management Unit User's Manual Please pay shipping