Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-09 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/9/19 9:23 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: And you would be $10 richer now :D I just replaced the caps on the HV board ($5 worth of parts $7.99 for S :facepalm:) and it fired right up and started printing. None of the caps looked "bad". I don't have an ESR meter but when I tested the caps w/

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-09 Thread Ali via cctalk
> > It sounds like the caps have not (yet) completely failed. > > I'd bet $10 on the HV supply being your problem. And you would be $10 richer now :D I just replaced the caps on the HV board ($5 worth of parts $7.99 for S :facepalm:) and it fired right up and started printing. None of the

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-04 Thread Ali via cctalk
>If I were you, I'd buy a complete DC/hv assembly, it must be cheap on ebay Where is the fun in that? :) To be honest I checked and it is about $50. Parts from mouser (w/ upgrades to 105c caps) are about $5 plus S I will try recapping and if that fails then I will consider buying a whole HV

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-04 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
If I were you, I'd buy a complete DC/hv assembly, it must be cheap on ebay ---8<---Corte aqui---8<--- http://www.tabajara-labs.blogspot.com http://www.tabalabs.com.br ---8<---Corte aqui---8<--- Em qui, 4 de abr de 2019 às 12:39, Ali via cctalk escreveu: > > > You might want to order a few HV

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-04 Thread Ali via cctalk
> You might want to order a few HV diodes because a leaky HV diode > could be found if the caps are good. > Thanks. I will keep that in mind. -Ali

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-03 Thread ben via cctalk
On 4/3/2019 9:44 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: First, since you have not checked with another cartridge, is to examine the corona wires and/or "combs" on the cart. Sometimes the wires break at one end.  Also, toner spills could short it out, I've had that before.  Bent contacts on the cart

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-03 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 04/03/2019 03:24 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote: Is the fuser roller warming up properly? Or, is it the corona supply is having trouble coming up to voltage? You should pull the bottom of the printer apart and thoroughly clean the PC board on both sides. If you have never done this, it will be a

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-03 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 04/03/2019 03:24 AM, Ali via cctalk wrote: Thanks for that tidbit. I didn't realize that a HV failure would not produce any error codes. If that is the case looks like I am recapping a board. Out of curiosity what symptoms were you getting? Nope, I think there is some sort of self-check

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-03 Thread Ali via cctalk
> It sounds like the caps have not (yet) completely failed. > > I'd bet $10 on the HV supply being your problem. Grant, I think that would be a good bet. I am going to order parts and recap the board... See where that gets us. Thanks for all of your help. -Ali

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-03 Thread Ali via cctalk
> Just my little bit of input on this...the high voltage power supply is > just about the only thing that there is no error code for. I had one > fail and the printer didn't flag any errors. Changing the HV supply > fixed it. > > It sounds to me like your problem is related to the high voltage

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-03 Thread Ali via cctalk
> Is the fuser roller warming up properly? Or, is it the > corona supply is having trouble coming up to voltage? You > should pull the bottom of the printer apart and thoroughly > clean the PC board on both sides. If you have never done > this, it will be a HUGE BLACK MESS with spilled toner

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 04/02/2019 02:56 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: I rescued a LaserJet 4+ printer that I have been trying to restore. Initially everything seemed ok and it seemed as if there may be just a bit of an issue with paper pickup which I attributed to old paper in the tray. However, soon I started getting

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/2/19 4:20 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: So I took out the HV board and it was super dirty (I added pictures on the thread in VCF at www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?69109-Help-with-LJ-4-Printer-Repair-Please=564565 ). I saw. Nothing that should really prevent electrical flow but I

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/2/19 2:47 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: Yes, these guys were built like tanks. This one acts as a 4M now because I added the PS module to it and it has local talk support. No duplexer or extra paper tray though :(. It was really a 4+. I picked it up for $1 ~ $10 at a ham fest. I then

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/2/19 4:57 PM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: One other tip that might be useful. Very commonly with old photocopiers and laser printers the rubber pick-up and paper feed rollers lose their 'tack' and slip on the paper. I found that briefly soaking them in teatree oil restores the 'tack'

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread David Collins via cctalk
You could well have a temp sensitive HV supply or excess moisture in it that keeps the HT low until the warmth of operation dries it out. Given the problem returns each time, a temp sensitive HV sounds likely. Not sure how quickly you could remove and replace the supply but you might trying

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Dave Mabry via cctalk
Ali via cctalk wrote on 4/2/2019 3:56 PM: I rescued a LaserJet 4+ printer that I have been trying to restore. Initially everything seemed ok and it seemed as if there may be just a bit of an issue with paper pickup which I attributed to old paper in the tray. However, soon I started getting the

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Ali via cctalk
Hello Guy, > Or the drum isn't getting charged in the first place, before light > exposure then toner dusting. > A way to check this: while the machine is in mid-copy, cut the power > then open it up and look at the drum. > Is there a toner image adhered to the drum section between where the >

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Ali via cctalk
> Since you are presumably going to keep this printer, once you fix it, > or > at least use it for large jobs where wasting the first few pages isn't > a > big issue, I would suggest getting another cartridge. > You will need it, eventually. > And, it provides a simple test to support or reject

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
Or the drum isn't getting charged in the first place, before light exposure then toner dusting. A way to check this: while the machine is in mid-copy, cut the power then open it up and look at the drum. Is there a toner image adhered to the drum section between where the surface is

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Ali via cctalk
> > """ > - Bad / dirty contacts to the hi voltage > - Bad high voltage > - Bad DC power supply. > """ Grant, So I took out the HV board and it was super dirty (I added pictures on the thread in VCF at www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?69109-Help-with-LJ-4-Printer-Repair-Please=564565

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Ali via cctalk
>If I'm not mistaken, high voltage capacitors on power supply. The corona wire >isn't >charging the paper, so the image doesn't get transferred from the >cylinder to the paper to >be pressed/fused in the fusor. Alexander, Thanks for the reply. Grant also suggested the same thing. I am turning

RE: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Ali via cctalk
Grant, > I miss my 4M+ with duplexer and extra paper tray. :-( Yes, these guys were built like tanks. This one acts as a 4M now because I added the PS module to it and it has local talk support. No duplexer or extra paper tray though :(. > I've found that the age of the paper isn't as

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/2/19 2:09 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I'll share your email with a friend who was a certified HP LaserJet repairman.  (I just pretended to be one a couple of jobs ago). My friend replied with the following: """ - Bad / dirty contacts to the hi voltage - Bad high voltage - Bad

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/2/19 1:56 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: I rescued a LaserJet 4+ printer that I have been trying to restore. I miss my 4M+ with duplexer and extra paper tray. :-( Initially everything seemed ok and it seemed as if there may be just a bit of an issue with paper pickup which I attributed to

Re: Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
If I'm not mistaken, high voltage capacitors on power supply. The corona wire isn't charging the paper, so the image doesn't get transfered from the cylinder to the paper to be pressed/fused in the fusor. ---8<---Corte aqui---8<--- http://www.tabajara-labs.blogspot.com http://www.tabalabs.com.br

Not DEC related but still hoping for some help: Problems w/ LJ 4+ Printer

2019-04-02 Thread Ali via cctalk
I rescued a LaserJet 4+ printer that I have been trying to restore. Initially everything seemed ok and it seemed as if there may be just a bit of an issue with paper pickup which I attributed to old paper in the tray. However, soon I started getting the accordion paper jam which led me to