Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2017-03-01 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
On 11/13/2016 05:09 AM, John Labovitz wrote: A few years back, while photographing letterpress printers (see http://johnlabovitz.com/projects/letterpress), I met a fellow (Rob Barnes) in Denver who specializes in die-cutting. Like most die-cut operators, he uses mid-20th century Heidelberg

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2017-03-01 Thread william degnan via cctalk
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On 11/11/2016 05:53 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > No stock, or no cards? I would think that one of the paper manufacturers >>> would be putting out postcard stock of the right specifications. >>> >>

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2017-03-01 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
On 11/11/2016 05:53 PM, Al Kossow wrote: No stock, or no cards? I would think that one of the paper manufacturers would be putting out postcard stock of the right specifications. This has been discussed for several years here. No one is making paper stock to IBM card stock specifications.

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2017-03-01 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
On 11/11/2016 04:32 PM, Al Kossow wrote: There are no suppliers, and the NOS stuff is all gone. No one is making new 80 column punched card stock either. Really? I thought there is still some card stock to buy. On 11/10/16 5:36 PM, Charles Dickman wrote: And where can I get new fan-fold

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-16 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 02:03:36PM -0800, Ian S. King wrote: > > Somewhere I have a photo of the machine that IBM used to make punch cards. > It's in a small museum in Endicott, NY. It did indeed take a roll of paper > made to IBM specs and produce the flat punch cards many of us know and some >

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-12 Thread John Labovitz
On Nov 12, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > There are lots of paper manufacturers and lots of grades and thickness of > paper. The thickness we're talking about is one that shows up in a couple I > looked at. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if suitable paper

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 11, 2016, at 7:16 PM, jim stephens wrote: > > ... > Hollerith card info (via Wikipedia) > > Card size is exactly 7 3⁄8 by 3 1⁄4 inches (187.325 mm × 82.55 mm). The cards > are made > of smooth stock, 0.007 inches (180 µm) thick. There are about 143 cards to > the

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-12 Thread jim stephens
On 11/12/2016 5:54 AM, Dave Wade wrote: I e-mailed them and got no reply... >Christian Maybe if more people email, we might make them think there is a market. http://www.hummel-print.com looks like their main business from the web site is printing boarding pass stock, which be a little

RE: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-12 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Christian > Corti > Sent: 12 November 2016 13:33 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Paper tape carriers and pap

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-12 Thread Christian Corti
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016, Al Kossow wrote: No one is making new 80 column punched card stock either. No stock, or no cards? I would think that one of the paper manufacturers would be putting out postcard stock of the right specifications. This has been discussed for several years here. No one

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread steven
Tom Moss said: > On 11 November 2016 at 15:42, Paul Koning wrote: > >> Is punch tape still made? I would guess so, for old CNC machines >> perhaps. That's typically roll tape, not fanfold. >> > > There's a British supplier that recently had another run made, although >

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread jim stephens
On 11/11/2016 3:05 PM, Dave Wade wrote: Not seen one of those for ages, These days, at least in the UK, Credit Cards seem to come attached to a standard letter with a blob of sticky stuff... Dave Image of manual credit form here: http://www.shipnfast.com/jpgs/2plbigpic.jpg 3-1/4 x

RE: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Dave Wade
mber 2016 23:01 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape > > The machine that is used where I'm referring to cuts from a roll about 2 cards > wide. The system also has to be able to me

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread jim stephens
The machine that is used where I'm referring to cuts from a roll about 2 cards wide. The system also has to be able to merge up to four sheets together per form as the real product is for the full size credit card forms that one uses with either NCR paper, or with carbon. They can handle

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Al Kossow
CHM has one, and a collection of printing cylinders http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102670869 On 11/11/16 2:03 PM, Ian S. King wrote: > Somewhere I have a photo of the machine that IBM used to make punch cards. > It's in a small museum in Endicott, NY. It did indeed take a

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Paul Berger
On 2016-11-11 6:03 PM, Ian S. King wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 1:56 PM, jim stephens wrote: On 11/11/2016 8:53 AM, Al Kossow wrote: On 11/11/16 7:42 AM, Paul Koning wrote: No one is making new 80 column punched card stock either. No stock, or no cards? I would

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Ian S. King
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 1:56 PM, jim stephens wrote: > > > On 11/11/2016 8:53 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > >> >> On 11/11/16 7:42 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >> >> No one is making new 80 column punched card stock either. >>> No stock, or no cards? I would think that one of the

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread jim stephens
On 11/11/2016 8:53 AM, Al Kossow wrote: On 11/11/16 7:42 AM, Paul Koning wrote: No one is making new 80 column punched card stock either. No stock, or no cards? I would think that one of the paper manufacturers would be putting out postcard stock of the right specifications. This has

RE: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Mike Loewen
On Fri, 11 Nov 2016, Dave Wade wrote: There are no suppliers, and the NOS stuff is all gone. No one is making new 80 column punched card stock either. No stock, or no cards? I would think that one of the paper manufacturers I tried to get some made. Supplier could not source any card of

RE: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul > Koning > Sent: 11 November 2016 15:43 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Paper tape carriers and pap

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Tom Moss
On 11 November 2016 at 16:53, Al Kossow wrote: > This has been discussed for several years here. No one is making paper > stock to IBM card stock specification Did all punch card manufacturers use the same stock though? I vaguely recall ICL cards feeling somewhat smoother?

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Al Kossow
you can still buy rolls from Western NC http://www.westnc.com/paper-tape-rolls.html it ain't cheap On 11/11/16 7:49 AM, Tom Moss wrote: > On 11 November 2016 at 15:42, Paul Koning wrote: > >> Is punch tape still made? I would guess so, for old CNC machines >> perhaps.

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/11/16 7:42 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >> No one is making new 80 column punched card stock either. > > No stock, or no cards? I would think that one of the paper manufacturers > would be putting out postcard stock of the right specifications. This has been discussed for several years

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Tom Moss
On 11 November 2016 at 15:42, Paul Koning wrote: > Is punch tape still made? I would guess so, for old CNC machines > perhaps. That's typically roll tape, not fanfold. > There's a British supplier that recently had another run made, although it's on a roll.

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 11, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > There are no suppliers, and the NOS stuff is all gone. > No one is making new 80 column punched card stock either. No stock, or no cards? I would think that one of the paper manufacturers would be putting out postcard

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-11 Thread Al Kossow
There are no suppliers, and the NOS stuff is all gone. No one is making new 80 column punched card stock either. That is why a box of fanfold sells for 25$ and up on eBay, even more if it is has the DEC logo. On 11/10/16 5:36 PM, Charles Dickman wrote: > And where can I get new fan-fold paper

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-10 Thread Charles Dickman
And where can I get new fan-fold paper tape to put in the trays? On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > There has to be a better solution than either the vaccum or all-plex cases > for paper tape. Neither one is very good for > anything other than what the

Re: Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-10 Thread Al Kossow
There has to be a better solution than either the vaccum or all-plex cases for paper tape. Neither one is very good for anything other than what the slots were set up for (like 1") Short ones get bunched together in a slot, and long ones bridge slots. Either way, you end up not being able to see

Paper tape carriers and paper tape

2016-11-10 Thread jim stephens
I don't know if anyone here has the interest or capability to do it, but creating a replica of the blue tape trays with the clear overlay that one could sell for a few bucks with some random fanfold copies of DEC or other diagnostics would be nice. Perhaps if there were a ready source of