Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-14 Thread Chris Hanson
On Dec 14, 2016, at 1:07 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > As far as I know I do have an HP IEEE488 ISA Board lying around somewhere, > and I'l ltry to look at the stack of old Motherboards if I can find > something with a "higher" CPU and ISA Slots to build a Windoze computer > that

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-14 Thread Chris Hanson
ler development software for the 16500 and 1650 > series.(HP 10391B) > > -Rik >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- >> Van: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Namens shad >> Verzonden: woensdag 14 december 2016 19:36 >> Aan: cctalk >>

RE: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-14 Thread Rik Bos
ensdag 14 december 2016 19:36 > Aan: cctalk > Onderwerp: Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software??? > > hello, > somewhere around I should have a floppy with disassembler for HP1660 series. > I suppose it is useless for 1630... or not? > Should I give a look to find it? > > Andrea

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-14 Thread shadoooo
hello, somewhere around I should have a floppy with disassembler for HP1660 series. I suppose it is useless for 1630... or not? Should I give a look to find it? Andrea

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-14 Thread Holm Tiffe
Glen Slick wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Rik Bos wrote: > > > >> I used HPDir to dup the two floppies from a physical 9121D drive into .HPI > >> image > >> files, then verified that the 1630D can access those .HPI image files > >> loaded into > >> HPDrive to

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-12 Thread Glen Slick
On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Rik Bos wrote: > >> I used HPDir to dup the two floppies from a physical 9121D drive into .HPI >> image >> files, then verified that the 1630D can access those .HPI image files loaded >> into >> HPDrive to emulate a 9121D drive. >> >> I can

RE: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-12 Thread Rik Bos
> I used HPDir to dup the two floppies from a physical 9121D drive into .HPI > image > files, then verified that the 1630D can access those .HPI image files loaded > into > HPDrive to emulate a 9121D drive. > > I can send those two .HPI image files to anyone who wants them. Glen, Could you

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-11 Thread Glen Slick
I acquired an HP 1630D a couple of days ago. It is a 2311A serial number prefix with the expected 01630-66512 version CPU board. It originally had the "HP1630 Software, Tue, 26 Oct 1982, 16:31" 01630-80008 - 01630-80015 version firmware 2764 EPROM set installed. That is the version with HP-IL tape

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-06 Thread Glen Slick
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > > The person working on simulating the HP Integral ran into the problem with > HP's funny > disk formats with the last track on the Integral disks having sector IDs > around 100 > that record the wear level of the tracks.

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-06 Thread Al Kossow
On 12/6/16 7:48 AM, Glen Slick wrote: > Dave, I have some questions/suggestions about TD02IMD.COM > Is Dave still around? I know Eric Smith has been trying to contact him about adding things like M2FM types to the format Browse the web for the Babel that floppy disk image container formats

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-06 Thread Glen Slick
On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:02 AM, Christian Corti wrote: > On Mon, 5 Dec 2016, Glen Slick wrote: >> >> I tried using ImageDisk on a PC to read the two HP 1630 3.5-inch >> floppies I have (10304 8085 preprocessor, 10342 HP-IB, RS-232C/V.24, >> RS-449 preprocessor).

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-06 Thread Christian Corti
On Mon, 5 Dec 2016, Glen Slick wrote: I tried using ImageDisk on a PC to read the two HP 1630 3.5-inch floppies I have (10304 8085 preprocessor, 10342 HP-IB, RS-232C/V.24, RS-449 preprocessor). It appeared to be able to read the expected data just fine. Singled sided disk with 16 256-byte

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread Glen Slick
> > Search for 1630 on http://www.ko4bb.com/ and there is a "HP 1630A D > 1631A D Logic Analyzer EPROM 14-Oct-1985-HP 1630A-D 1631A-D ROMs.zip" > file with these EPROM images, which is supposed to be the latest > version listed in the service manual for the 1630A, 1630D, 1631A, > 1631D (but not

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread Eric Smith
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Glen Slick wrote: > Model conversion table > Note (1) > 1630A/D shipped before February 1, 1985 uses an HP-IL cassette drive > for mass storage. > 1630A/D shipped after February 1, 1985 uses an HP-IB disc drive for > mass storage. > Ah, that

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread Glen Slick
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > > IIRC from many years ago, different versions of the 163x firmware support > the 82161A tape drive, the 9114A floppy drive, and remote control. I don't > think there's any version that supports both tape and floppy. I'm not

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread Eric Smith
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Glen Slick wrote: > But it also seemed to detect a sector number 17 with no data in each > track. Is that a normal 9121 low level format? > It's normal for the HP 3 1/2" floppies to have an extra sector, which is used for wear tracking, but

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 12/5/2016 2:45 PM, Glen Slick wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote: I've heard from a friend that another friend that died in the menatime, had managed to copy HP9121 disks on a plain PC with something like Super Copy. I tried using ImageDisk on

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 12/5/2016 2:31 PM, Holm Tiffe wrote: Hey Holm; I'm _pretty sure_ I have the Z80 disassembler for the 1630. I have a 1630G and a 9121, but unfortunately I was never able to get the 1631 to talk to the 9121 - I don't know if the drive was bad as I have no other way to test it. Has anyone

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread Glen Slick
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Tony Duell wrote: > > The HP1630 has HPIL as standard. IIRC you can configure it to either be > remote-controlled over HPIB (when it will use HPIL for mass storage devices > like this tape drive) or vice versa. > > But I seem to remember

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread Glen Slick
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > I've heard from a friend that another friend that died in the menatime, had > managed to copy HP9121 disks on a plain PC with something like Super Copy. I tried using ImageDisk on a PC to read the two HP 1630 3.5-inch

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread Tony Duell
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > Glen Slick wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > Interresting, I've don't even knew that such tape drives existed. It's the little HPIL tape drive that was first used with

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread Holm Tiffe
Holm Tiffe wrote: > Glen Slick wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I have an HP1631D Logic Analyzer for some years now und got an HP9121 > > > dual Floppy drive that fits to it yesterday. > > > I've tested the drive,

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread Holm Tiffe
Glen Slick wrote: > On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I have an HP1631D Logic Analyzer for some years now und got an HP9121 > > dual Floppy drive that fits to it yesterday. > > I've tested the drive, formating disks, storing and reading

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread Holm Tiffe
JP Hindin wrote: > > > On Sat, 3 Dec 2016, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > I have an HP1631D Logic Analyzer for some years now und got an HP9121 > > dual Floppy drive that fits to it yesterday. > > I've tested the drive, formating disks, storing and reading data ist > > working :-) > >

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-05 Thread JP Hindin
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016, Holm Tiffe wrote: Hi folks, I have an HP1631D Logic Analyzer for some years now und got an HP9121 dual Floppy drive that fits to it yesterday. I've tested the drive, formating disks, storing and reading data ist working :-) While reading the Users Manual of the LA I've

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-03 Thread Tony Duell
> This page says the 82176A cartridges are extremely reliable and they > have been able to read every tape they have come accross: > http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=676 I have had them fail, but so far not in a way that makes them unreadable. The main problem is the pressure pad

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-03 Thread Glen Slick
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Rik Bos wrote: > Glen, > > Are you sure it's the HP 82161 drive that's for the 82176A mini cassette and > not the DC100 tapes. > If it's the DC100 tape, it may be possible to read it with a HP-85 or an > 9877A tape drive. > It depends on the

RE: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-03 Thread Rik Bos
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Namens Glen Slick > Verzonden: zaterdag 3 december 2016 22:43 > Aan: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Onderwerp: Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software??? > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 12

RE: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-03 Thread Jay West
If there are any problems reading Glen's copy, let me know, I have the same disks for my 1631. Might have gotten them from Glen :) J

Re: HP1631D Logic Analyzer..Software???

2016-12-03 Thread Glen Slick
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > Hi folks, > > I have an HP1631D Logic Analyzer for some years now und got an HP9121 > dual Floppy drive that fits to it yesterday. > I've tested the drive, formating disks, storing and reading data ist > working :-) > While