Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-31 Thread Charles Anthony via cctalk
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > Stranger still is the "fancy" lights in RSTS ... "Fancy" because it > > produces a rotating pattern not just in the data lights which is > easy, > > but also in the address lights. It runs

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-31 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Dec 31, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk > wrote: > > ... >> >> Ah; it must busy loop at loops spread across the address space? Clever! >> (Perhaps using the mapping hardware so that it doesn't use too much _actual_ >> memory.) Is the source available? > > Correct, it uses the

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-31 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Dec 31, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Paul Koning > >> RSTS-11 V4, which had a major reliability problem ... As part of trying >> to keep the customer placated, DEC supplied full OS sources, 5 >> dectapes. ... We printed them ... I still have copies of tho

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-31 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Paul Koning > RSTS-11 V4, which had a major reliability problem ... As part of trying > to keep the customer placated, DEC supplied full OS sources, 5 > dectapes. ... We printed them ... I still have copies of those files. Is that version available online? If not, maybe an

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Dec 29, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Paul Koning > >> Here's what it looked like > > Not having RT11, I embedded this in a small stand-alone program (which took a > little work, Unix assembler being rather different :-), so I could see it (it > wasn't o

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
Yes, RT11 (when it introduced Sysgen, which was later than V2) did so by supplying sources that had been stripped of their comments. So they were useful for sysgen but not (easily) useable for custom OS changes. DEC did offer source licenses for many of its operating systems, at extremely hi

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-29 Thread Charles Anthony via cctalk
(Not RT-11, PDP-11, or even DEC...) The Multics process scheduler quantum is 1/4 second; running processes are interrupted and rescheduled every 1/4 second. The idle process updates the light pattern and sleeps until the 1/4 timer runs out or an interrupt occurs. " " Idle with a flashing pattern

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-29 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Paul Koning > Here's what it looked like Not having RT11, I embedded this in a small stand-alone program (which took a little work, Unix assembler being rather different :-), so I could see it (it wasn't obvious from the code what it did). Pretty clever, to get that complex a pa

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-28 Thread David C. Jenner via cctalk
The sources to each release were usually included with the distribution so that custom system settings could be sysgened. The sources are uncommented, however. You could implement this by finding the commented out source in the sources and regenerating the system, with the code in the appropr

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-28 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Dec 27, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > > ; "A SOURCE OF INNOCENT MERRIMENT!" > ; - W.S. GILBERT, "MIKADO" > ; "DID NOTHING IN PARTICULAR, AND DID IT VERY WELL" > ; - W.S. GILBERT, "IOLANTHE" > ; "TO BE IDLE IS THE ULTIMATE PURPOSE OF THE BUSY" > ; - SAMUEL JOHNSON, "THE

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
It's been a standard feature of RT-11 FB since it first came out (in V2). You need to set the select switch to display the "Display" register (unlike most other OS idle patterns which rely on the data path display showing R0 when at a WAIT instruction. Here's what it looked like in V2.0 rmonfb

Re: RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-27 Thread william degnan via cctalk
Do you have an octal or asm listing for the part of the code with the migrating bar effect? This would be a good practice / test for me to try on my RT 11 system. Merry Christmas Bill On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I have been able t

RT-11 idle light pattern

2017-12-26 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
I have been able to sysgen an RT-11 XM monitor with the idle loop light pattern enabled, and install and boot it on my PDP-11/45. Here’s a video of the idle lights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycADKwgnLpE I built the latest simh and tu58em from source on my MacBook, then was able to do th