ons 2019-10-30 klockan 13:17 -0400 skrev Paul Koning via cctalk:
> >
> In some countries, at least in the early 1980s (Sweden?) the law said
> that private organizations could run communication wires on a floor
> of a building, but to wire from one floor to another was the monopoly
> of the
On 30/10/2019 02:34, allison via cctalk wrote:
Funny thing was DECnet was in 1983 the largest world wide network
period. By then is was well over 300 nodes and climbing fast.
And none of it used IP or NCP though it did transport P packets
encapsulated using DECnet.
When I hear NCP I still
> On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:20 AM, allison via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
>> But it's not germane. We're not talking about corporate proprietary
>> stuff, or we shouldn't be.
>
> We should as they were existent and ideas grew from them and for periods
> even depended on them. As a result a more
On 10/30/19 10:18 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 03:34, allison via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>>
>> The whole story of what was going on was far more complex and interesting.
>
> Conceded.
>
>> Funny thing was DECnet was in 1983 the largest world wide network
>> period.
On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 at 03:34, allison via cctalk wrote:
>
> The whole story of what was going on was far more complex and interesting.
Conceded.
> Funny thing was DECnet was in 1983 the largest world wide network
> period. By then is was well over 300 nodes and climbing fast.
> And none of it
> On Oct 29, 2019, at 10:34 PM, allison via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 10/29/19 8:50 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. via cctalk wrote:
>> We celebrated the 40th anniversary of the Internet less than 2 years
>> ago:
>>
>>>
> comma, ignoring IBM.
(correction)
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Will
> -Original Message-
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> via cctalk
> Sent: 30 October 2019 10:49
> To: allison via cctalk
> Subject: Re: 50 yrs. ago today
>
> > Funny thing was DECnet was in 1983 the largest world wide network
> > period
> Funny thing was DECnet was in 1983 the largest world wide network
> period.
comma, ignoring SNA.
--
Will
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 4:38 PM Rich Alderson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> From: Liam Proven
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 10:01 AM
>
> > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 17:32, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> > wrote:
>
> >> 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it
On 10/29/19 8:50 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. via cctalk wrote:
> We celebrated the 40th anniversary of the Internet less than 2 years
> ago:
>
>> https://computerhistory.org/blog/born-in-a-van-happy-40th-birthday-to-the-internet/
>
> The ARPAnet was a WAN (wide area network) and not an Internet, but
On 10/29/19 5:50 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. via cctalk wrote:
The ARPAnet was a WAN (wide area network) and not an Internet, but it
was one of the three networks involved in that first test on November
22, 1977 (after a two network test the previous year). The option to use
TCP/IP in addition to
On 10/29/19 8:21 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
>>> The first "internet" packet was certainly a significant event.
>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Paul Koning wrote:
>> Indeed. So "remote communication between heterogeneous computers"
>> would probably be a good description.
>
> not so sure, . . . I
On 10/29/19 5:50 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. via cctalk wrote:
> The ARPAnet was a WAN (wide area network) and not an Internet, but it
> was one of the three networks involved in that first test on November
> 22, 1977 (after a two network test the previous year). The option to use
> TCP/IP in
We celebrated the 40th anniversary of the Internet less than 2 years
ago:
> https://computerhistory.org/blog/born-in-a-van-happy-40th-birthday-to-the-internet/
The ARPAnet was a WAN (wide area network) and not an Internet, but it
was one of the three networks involved in that first test on
The first "internet" packet was certainly a significant event.
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Paul Koning wrote:
Indeed. So "remote communication between heterogeneous computers" would
probably be a good description.
not so sure, . . . I think that there had been others. BUT, first with
the IP
> On Oct 29, 2019, at 3:40 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> ...
>
> The first "internet" packet was certainly a significant event.
Indeed. So "remote communication between heterogeneous computers" would
probably be a good description.
> But, calling it "The first inter-computer
On 10/29/19 4:19 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> None of the objections to "first inter computer communication" should
> diminish the importance of the "first packet of the internet". It was
> surely a moment of rejoicing when it finally worked.
I suspect that the first inter-computer
Maybe you've got a digit wrong?
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote:
500 years ago? A pair of abaci (or abacuses?) linked with strings?
It has been said that when more digits were needed, that two abaci were
put together, . . .
"a digit wrong" could also mean 60 or 70
The first inter-computer communication happened 50 years ago today. L.
Kleinrock part of that historic moment, said, and I paraphrase here,
ARPANET was the instrument that was to enable computers to talk to each
other remotely. He sent ~@~\LO~@~] because the system crashed(how
surprising was
On 10/29/19 12:11 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote:
> The historic event was comms between heterogenous computers over a
> standardised protocol (IP, I think
So, more properly--50 years of IP?
--Chuck
:11 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: 50 yrs. ago today
I will have to see if our old next boots! -Ed#
In a message dated 10/29/2019 10:01:21 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
Tim Berners-Lee says it's the 50th anniversary of the first internet
packets. I
On 10/29/19 11:39 AM, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote:
>
> New to this list, are you?
>
EVERYONE knows that Steve Jobs invented the microcomputer and Nikola
Tesla invented alternating current.
--Chuck
On 10/29/19 11:53 AM, William Sudbrink via cctalk wrote:
> Chuck Guzis wrote
>> 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it was
>> a standard option in most vendors' catalogs.
>>
>> Maybe you've got a digit wrong?
>
> 500 years ago? A pair of abaci (or abacuses?) linked
From: Liam Proven
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 10:01 AM
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 17:32, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>> 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it was
>> a standard option in most vendors' catalogs.
>> Maybe you've got a digit wrong?
> Tim
I will have to see if our old next boots! -Ed#
In a message dated 10/29/2019 10:01:21 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
Tim Berners-Lee says it's the 50th anniversary of the first internet
packets. I believe him more than pretty much anyone.
It's also in multiple
Chuck Guzis wrote
> 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it was
> a standard option in most vendors' catalogs.
>
> Maybe you've got a digit wrong?
500 years ago? A pair of abaci (or abacuses?) linked with strings?
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On 29/10/2019, Murray McCullough via cctalk
wrote (in part):
> The first inter-computer communication happened 50 years ago today. L.
> Kleinrock part of that historic moment, said, and I paraphrase here,
> ARPANET was the instrument that was to enable computers to talk to each
> other remotely.
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 17:32, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
>
> 50 years ago, inter-computer communication was common enough that it was
> a standard option in most vendors' catalogs.
>
> Maybe you've got a digit wrong?
Tim Berners-Lee says it's the 50th anniversary of the first internet
On 10/29/19 6:15 AM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
> The first inter-computer communication happened 50 years ago today. L.
> Kleinrock part of that historic moment, said, and I paraphrase here,
> ARPANET was the instrument that was to enable computers to talk to each
> other remotely. He
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 10:21 AM William Donzelli via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > You may want to reword that statement ("first inter-computer
> > communication"). The SAGE Direction Center computers were talking to each
> > other (cross-tell) in 1958, via Bell 101 modems.
>
>
> You may want to reword that statement ("first inter-computer
> communication"). The SAGE Direction Center computers were talking to each
> other (cross-tell) in 1958, via Bell 101 modems.
"First" is a dangerous word, isn't it?
--
Will
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
The first inter-computer communication happened 50 years ago today. L.
Kleinrock part of that historic moment, said, and I paraphrase here,
ARPANET was the instrument that was to enable computers to talk to each
other remotely. He sent
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