Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-03 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 5:41 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > Is there a schematic anywhere for the hockey puck mice? Don't know if there is a VSXXX-AA mouse schematic anywhere. There is a DEPCA print set: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/ethernet/depca/MP02421_DEPCA_sch_May87.pdf Page

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-03 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 3, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk > wrote: > > On 6/3/22 08:46, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: >> On 03/06/2022 03:09, Rick Murphy via cctalk wrote: >>> On 6/1/2022 12:49 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: No one ever called it a "Digital Ethernet Personal

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-03 Thread David Bridgham via cctalk
On 6/3/22 08:55, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 6/3/22 08:46, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: It's predecessor, the DEQNA, was "Digital ETHERNET Q-Bus Network Adapter", according to its user guide, or "broken", according to most people :-) I see comments like this all the time

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-03 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 6/3/22 08:46, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: On 03/06/2022 03:09, Rick Murphy via cctalk wrote: On 6/1/2022 12:49 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: No one ever called it a "Digital Ethernet Personal Computer Bus Adapter", just a DEPCA. I never previously knew that there was any meaning

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-03 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 3, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > It's predecessor, the DEQNA, was "Digital ETHERNET Q-Bus Network Adapter", > according to its user guide, or "broken", according to most people :-) Yup. It went through 12 revisions, but even that last "rev L"

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-03 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 03/06/2022 03:09, Rick Murphy via cctalk wrote: On 6/1/2022 12:49 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: No one ever called it a "Digital Ethernet Personal Computer Bus Adapter", just a DEPCA. I never previously knew that there was any meaning behind the DEPCA name. Yes, that's what it meant.

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-03 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 6/3/22 08:16, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Jun 3, 2022, at 12:47 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2022, 9:36 PM Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: Speaking of DEPCA, does anybody (a) know what kind of mouse connects (the docs just say DIGITAL MOUSE) and (b) know where

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-03 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 3, 2022, at 12:47 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk > wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2022, 9:36 PM Warner Losh via cctalk > wrote: > >> Speaking of DEPCA, does anybody (a) know what kind of mouse connects (the >> docs just say DIGITAL MOUSE) and (b) know where to get one? >> >> Warner >> >

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-02 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 2, 2022, 9:36 PM Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > Speaking of DEPCA, does anybody (a) know what kind of mouse connects (the > docs just say DIGITAL MOUSE) and (b) know where to get one? > > Warner > The usual VSXXX round mouse that is also used with VAXstations, either the ball

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-02 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
Speaking of DEPCA, does anybody (a) know what kind of mouse connects (the docs just say DIGITAL MOUSE) and (b) know where to get one? Warner On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 9:47 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 10:09 PM Rick Murphy via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On 6/1/2022 12:49

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-02 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 10:09 PM Rick Murphy via cctalk wrote: > > On 6/1/2022 12:49 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > > No one ever called it a "Digital Ethernet Personal Computer Bus > > Adapter", just a DEPCA. I never previously knew that there was any > > meaning behind the DEPCA name. > >

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-02 Thread Rick Murphy via cctalk
On 6/1/2022 12:49 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: No one ever called it a "Digital Ethernet Personal Computer Bus Adapter", just a DEPCA. I never previously knew that there was any meaning behind the DEPCA name. Yes, that's what it meant. "DELNI" - Digital Ethernet Local Network Interface.

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-02 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 2, 2022, at 12:11 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > When I added more RAM to the system to bring up to 512K and installed > the DEPCA controller I was able to get the system to boot up and run > the connection scripts that search for a DEC network and associated >

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-01 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
> > > ... > > > I believe the DEPCA was based on the venerable > > > SONIC chipset, but it may have been the LANCE. It wasn't NE-2000 > > compatible > > > (that came later) :). > > > > LANCE seems plausible, or perhaps one of the later chips designed by DEC > > Jerusalem (SGEC etc.). What's a

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-01 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 7:51 AM Paul Koning wrote: > > > > On Jun 1, 2022, at 5:53 AM, Warner Losh via cctech < > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > ... > > I believe the DEPCA was based on the venerable > > SONIC chipset, but it may have been the LANCE. It wasn't NE-2000 > compatible > >

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-01 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Wed, Jun 1, 2022, 6:52 AM Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > > > On Jun 1, 2022, at 5:53 AM, Warner Losh via cctech < > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > ... > > I believe the DEPCA was based on the venerable > > SONIC chipset, but it may have been the LANCE. It wasn't NE-2000 > compatible

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 1, 2022, at 5:53 AM, Warner Losh via cctech > wrote: > > ... > I believe the DEPCA was based on the venerable > SONIC chipset, but it may have been the LANCE. It wasn't NE-2000 compatible > (that came later) :). LANCE seems plausible, or perhaps one of the later chips designed by

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-06-01 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:08 PM Wayne S via cctech wrote: > I think Decnet can run over a serial connection (rs-232) if you have > Decnet software. It’s not medium dependent. I got it to work years ago from > vax-to-vax. I’m not aware of any pc decnet software although I haven’t > looked much

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-05-31 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 5/31/22 10:48 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: If the stack that's installed is DECnet/DOS, then there are a few docs on bitsavers. I'd guess that the command "C:\CJR" leads to the stuff that loads the network stack and tries to set up the connections. I have zero experience with DECnet

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-05-31 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 8:56 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > Specific to IBMPC to DECNET networking...anyone worked in this > environment? Not me. I don't have the D drive that fails or the > network, but I am curious what I would need to make this work. Maybe > I can put something

Re: IBM PC Connecting to DECNET

2022-05-31 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> Specific to IBMPC to DECNET networking...anyone worked in this > environment? Not me. I don't have the D drive that fails or the > network, but I am curious what I would need to make this work. Maybe > I can put something together. Anyone using a Digital Ethernet > Personal Computer Bus