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Hi Grant, It can be different stroke for different folks. For many, it's the layout, feel, and sound of the keyboard, joystick, buttons, etc. There is a huge market for early "clicky" keyboards with non-linear actions (keys somewhat resist pressure until a threshold is passed, then they allow

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 18:52, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/19/2018 10:45 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > 80186? > > I really thought it was 8x86 where the x was 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4. :-o No no, never. But there was the i860 and i960 as well, remember. And the iAPX-432. There's

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> On Dec 21, 2018, at 9:25 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/21/2018 8:09 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > >> For the DPS-8, there really is only one option, and sadly GCOS-8 isn’t >> available, only Multics. Still it’s pretty cool to finally be able to use >> Multics, and it’s a lot

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On 12/21/2018 8:09 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: For the DPS-8, there really is only one option, and sadly GCOS-8 isn’t available, only Multics. Still it’s pretty cool to finally be able to use Multics, and it’s a lot more user friendly than GCOS-8 (I used to be a Systems Analyst at a

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> On Dec 21, 2018, at 5:20 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > On 12/21/18 3:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >> I’m afraid I’ll have to agree with Jim here. When talking about Retro >> Gaming, in most cases, the Raspberry Pi, while better than nothing, aren’t >> as good as the

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On 12/21/18 3:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: I’m afraid I’ll have to agree with Jim here. When talking about Retro Gaming, in most cases, the Raspberry Pi, while better than nothing, aren’t as good as the real thing, especially in regards to video and audio. There's nothing to be

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> On Dec 21, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: > > On 12/21/18 1:07 AM, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: >> no, emulators will not cut it > > Would you please expand upon that? > > Are you saying that things like a Raspberry Pi running RetroPi (I think > that's the name) don't

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On 12/21/18 1:07 AM, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: no, emulators will not cut it Would you please expand upon that? Are you saying that things like a Raspberry Pi running RetroPi (I think that's the name) don't suffice / satisfy as the real thing that they are emulating? Or are you

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I teach 7th - 12th grade Science (all of them) and Computing at a very rural Little Red Brick K-12 Schoolhouse beyond The Middle of Nowhere in Montana. Even waay out here, there are kids who just love, love, love retro 80s games, and no, emulators will not cut it, thank you very much. We

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SGI made MIPS, ITANIUM, and X86 workstations, servers, and personal workstations low price MIPS workstations: SGI INDY, SGI O2 The SGI Indigo2 was very very expensive, especially the "Purple Impact" See on YouTube, there is an episode made by a dude called "LGR" SGI also made Pentium3

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> On Dec 20, 2018, at 4:55 AM, John Foust via cctalk > wrote: > > At 02:07 PM 12/19/2018, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >> The Epson V850-Pro does pretty good at 8x10, and produces scans capable of >> being printed at about 30”x40”. I *WISH* I could scan my 11x14 >> negatives. > >

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At 02:07 PM 12/19/2018, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >The Epson V850-Pro does pretty good at 8x10, and produces scans capable of >being printed at about 30”x40”. I *WISH* I could scan my 11x14 negatives. Stitching several scans together isn't possible? - John

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At 12:58 AM 12/20/2018, Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote: >> >> SGI made home computers?! > >I don't know that I saw a reply to this but I'm guessing the reference is the >SGI Indy? Home computers that were ten times the price of other home computers? - John

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Ali wrote: > > I don't know how functional their solutions are and I've never had any > > of > > their products nor I have anything to do with them, but I've had this > > link: in my bookmarks just in case since > > 2005. > > I guess if they have

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On 2018-12-19 16:06, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > On 12/19/18 3:59 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department >> On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >>> Pretty sure that's the one.  Got stuff piled on it at

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>> SGI desktops made for home use, > > Whoah whoah whoah, what? > > SGI made home computers?! I don't know that I saw a reply to this but I'm guessing the reference is the SGI Indy? And maybe indigo could count as well for smaller systems that could fit on a desk instead of desk-side

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Just fixed a 66 Ampeg SB-13 guitar amp, the tubes are not cheap On Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 5:26 PM Al Kossow via cctech > > On 12/19/18 12:17 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > > You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. > > sure thing, > let me know when you croak

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> Just fixed a 66 Ampeg SB-13 guitar amp, the tubes are not cheap Hmmm...if only we knew a guy on this list that deals in tubes... -- Will

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On 12/19/18 7:32 PM, Ali via cctalk wrote: >> I don't know how functional their solutions are and I've never had any >> of >> their products nor I have anything to do with them, but I've had this >> link: in my bookmarks just in case since >> 2005. >> I guess if they

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> I don't know how functional their solutions are and I've never had any > of > their products nor I have anything to do with them, but I've had this > link: in my bookmarks just in case since > 2005. > I guess if they have been in that business for so long now, they

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> Really? Show me one that is 1) in current production, 2) offers the > >> full ISA bus (not just some decoded address lines and 8 data lines), > >> 3) plugs into a PCI slot. > >> Christian > > > > Surprised no one has used something like an

Re: New takes on XT-IDE, a new FDC, and a new CM/S GAL WAS: RE: More old stuff incoming

On 12/19/18 12:10 PM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: > The controller chip used on that FDC is the same as found on some Adaptec > AHA-15xx series cards, which have been the go-to for a long time on adding > FM support to PCs whose onboard controllers don't support it. I don't think that's

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On 12/19/2018 02:29 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: And today, we have "Watson". That's a symptom of one of many things that have changed at IBM. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

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On 12/19/18 4:27 PM, Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk wrote: > Having worked at IBM “in the day”, the “official” reason (near as I could > tell) was that IBM didn’t want to anthropomorphise computers. So it was > never “memory”, it was always “storage”. So we didn’t have RAM or ROM, we > had

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Having worked at IBM “in the day”, the “official” reason (near as I could tell) was that IBM didn’t want to anthropomorphise computers. So it was never “memory”, it was always “storage”. So we didn’t have RAM or ROM, we had storage or ROS. Disks were called DASD. Main boards were called

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On 2018-12-19 3:57 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 12/19/18 12:17 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. > > sure thing, > let me know when you croak > > 12AX7's are going for stupid money now > > > > I

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On 2018-12-19 3:57 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 12/19/18 12:17 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. > > sure thing, > let me know when you croak > > 12AX7's are going for stupid money now > > > > I

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I always liked the PS/2 cases. Just about every one I've seen is tool less down to, and sometimes including, the system planar (as IBM called it). Typically unreliable source (my uncle who worked for IBM) said that the reason that they

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> On Dec 19, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk > wrote: > > On 2018-12-19 3:59 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department >> On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >>> Pretty sure that's the one. Got stuff

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On 2018-12-19 3:59 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> Pretty sure that's the one.  Got stuff piled on it at the moment >> so I can't read the model number. > > An

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On 2018-12-19 3:59 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> Pretty sure that's the one.  Got stuff piled on it at the moment >> so I can't read the model number. > > An

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> On December 19, 2018 at 3:57 PM Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > On 12/19/18 12:17 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > > You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. > > sure thing, > let me know when you croak > > 12AX7's are going for stupid money now >

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On 12/19/18 3:59 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> Pretty sure that's the one.  Got stuff piled on it at the moment >> so I can't read the model number. > > An

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I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Pretty sure that's the one. Got stuff piled on it at the moment so I can't read the model number. An inherent design problem with flatbed scanners! In the college

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On 12/19/18 12:17 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. sure thing, let me know when you croak 12AX7's are going for stupid money now

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I’d like an 8x10 enlarger, but I don’t regret passing on the Elwood that turned up in the area about a year ago. It was in *sorry* shape. I do regret missing a Zone VI 5x7 in November. My main enlarger is a 4x5 Beseler. For 4x5 I’m using Horseman, for 8x10 Deardorff, and for 11x14 I have a

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> > four drive support and addresses but given that most FDCs will not > > support FM this is a great step forward. ... > > SOME FDC will support FM. > SOME FDC can sorta do 128 byte sectors. Fred, SOME is not MOST ;). Yeah some will but if you were to pick up a generic 8bit FDC off of eBay

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>That FDC is not an XT-IDE, it's a copy of Sergey Kiesev's XT-FDC controller. >The same seller also saw fit >to "cost optimize" the open source XT-IDE rev 4 >and remove my copyright/site info. It's no great step >forward, it's merely a >copy of someone else's work with no attribution. I

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OK  yea  Zane that is the  Epson scanner  I hear  so much  good  about!   I miss  my  sinar  had   4x5 5x7 and  8 x10  backs  (it  was the old orig  NORMA.    what a  beauty... when I started  comp  biz the  sale of that  . cant  complain     comp biz  ..  still have my speed graphic  and 

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On 12/19/18 3:15 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 12/19/18 11:59 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: >> I do have some 12AX7's lying around... > > sell them > > > You'll get my vacuum tubes when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. bill

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On 12/19/18 11:59 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > I do have some 12AX7's lying around... sell them

Re: New takes on XT-IDE, a new FDC, and a new CM/S GAL WAS: RE: More old stuff incoming

That FDC is not an XT-IDE, it's a copy of Sergey Kiesev's XT-FDC controller. The same seller also saw fit to "cost optimize" the open source XT-IDE rev 4 and remove my copyright/site info. It's no great step forward, it's merely a copy of someone else's work with no attribution. The controller

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On 12/19/18 3:03 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > they already  do  have this,  output  state is a  tube...Ed# I know there was one. I was waiting for the newer model. bill > > > In a message dated 12/19/2018 12:59:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: >

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On 12/19/18 11:59 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > On 2018-12-19 2:33 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> >> when will someone be coming out with another sound card with a >> vacuum tube on it? >> >> bill >> > > Hm, I do have some 12AX7's lying around... Well, there have been PC

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On 12/19/2018 12:33 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: when will someone be coming out with another sound card with a vacuum tube on it? I didn't know that there was such for a personal computer. That being said, I have seem pictures of hats for Raspberry Pis (and the likes) that do have

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The Epson V850-Pro does pretty good at 8x10, and produces scans capable of being printed at about 30”x40”. I *WISH* I could scan my 11x14 negatives. To be able to do well requires either a vintage flatbed, or better yet a good Drum Scanner. Realistically, I need a good Drum Scanner, which in

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they already  do  have this,  output  state is a  tube...Ed# In a message dated 12/19/2018 12:59:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   On 2018-12-19 2:33 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > On 12/19/18 2:21 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> >> >> On

New takes on XT-IDE, a new FDC, and a new CM/S GAL WAS: RE: More old stuff incoming

> > "Tube Time" is the developer of the adlib (now sold by the Russians > on eBay) and the SnBl > > https://twitter.com/tubetimeus Has anyone seen these before? They seem to be a new take (just a shrink down) of the XT-IDE and an FDC controller that supports single density (FM) and 2.88 ED

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On 2018-12-19 2:33 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > On 12/19/18 2:21 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> >> >> On 12/19/18 9:56 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: >> >>> I've been following @foone's development of the Snood Bloober on Twitter. >> >> "Tube Time" is the developer of the adlib

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On 12/19/18 2:21 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 12/19/18 9:56 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > >> I've been following @foone's development of the Snood Bloober on Twitter. > > "Tube Time" is the developer of the adlib (now sold by the Russians on eBay) > and the SnBl >

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On 12/19/18 9:56 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I've been following @foone's development of the Snood Bloober on Twitter. "Tube Time" is the developer of the adlib (now sold by the Russians on eBay) and the SnBl https://twitter.com/tubetimeus

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Zane -   thanks  for  reminder.  Yes  this  scanner    goes  scssi  to  a  large  cofax  processing  card that is  supposed  to  do  fast  working magic... but  die  to faster   PC and CPU  speeds  today  may not  be  really needed  or  will HANG!   We  do  use the  vuscan  for   use  with a 

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Nice  ps2  sash..   We  have  some  examples here but there are  things in these photos  I have  never seen!   One  thing we  have  I  am curious   about is a  large   oversize  IBM monitor monochrome  grey  screen ...   I wonder  what it  was  used  for...  aside  for a bigger  word processing

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On 12/19/2018 08:20 AM, geneb via cctalk wrote: There's enough of a market to support folks building replicas of the Adlib sound card.  I've seen evidence of a Sound Blaster 1.0 replica - I think they called it the "Snood Bloober 1.0". I've been following @foone's development of the Snood

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On 12/19/2018 10:45 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: 80186? I really thought it was 8x86 where the x was 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4. But looking at a picture of a CPU online I see that it was 8086, 80186, 80286, 80386, 80486. #TodayILearned "xcvb" is wrong. It's an 8086. ACK The BBC

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On 12/19/18 12:43 PM, emanuel stiebler wrote: > On 2018-12-19 12:23, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department >> I used to work at. An HP with a SCSI interface. Works great, >> supported by SANE. > > I had an HP IIcx with ADF.

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On 12/19/2018 04:09 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: Unless the software is really weird and relies on something weird like undocumented side-effects of the 286 CPU or 8 bit ISA DMA[0], this may be a way forwards to keeping it running when that crusty old Pentium finally croaks. I've run

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 18:23, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/19/2018 09:05 AM, xcvb via cctalk wrote: > > Tho ive seldom posted but have always read this list i cannot resist - > > somewhere stored away in my piles of stuff I have an IBM Model 30 I > > believe that has an 8 bit isa bus

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The PS/2 collectors ... any internet foras for them ? I see quite a bit of activity in the comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware (and related) newsgroups. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

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The PS/2 collectors ... any internet foras for them ? I know one, he hangs out on Vogons. Here's him talking about a haul of PS/2 stuff he got from me when I moved across country. https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46=17341=8960#p445583 I do have PS/2 55Sx (which i do intend to run

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On 2018-12-19 12:23, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > I still have and use the first scanner bought by the CS Department > I used to work at. An HP with a SCSI interface. Works great, > supported by SANE. I had an HP IIcx with ADF. (before I moved). Was great, scanned without paying

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: There was a Tandy with an 80186, but I don't recall the model number. Tandy 2000. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some

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On 12/19/2018 03:57 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: The original model 30 was an 8086, and not even a great one -- it didn't have true VGA, for instance. The original IBM PC / AT / XT didn't have VGA either. So that seems par for the generation of the processor. (At least as I understand

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> On December 19, 2018 at 12:33 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk > wrote: > > > There was a Tandy with an 80186, but I don't recall the model number. > Model 2000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tandy_2000 Will "He may look dumb but that's just a disguise." -- Charlie Daniels "The names of

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There was a Tandy with an 80186, but I don't recall the model number. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Grant Taylor via cctalk Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 11:23 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: More old stuff incoming

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On 12/19/2018 09:05 AM, xcvb via cctalk wrote: Tho ive seldom posted but have always read this list i cannot resist - somewhere stored away in my piles of stuff I have an IBM Model 30 I believe that has an 8 bit isa bus and an 80186 cpu. I am somewhat surprised to learn that any commercially

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On 12/19/18 11:15 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > >> On Dec 19, 2018, at 12:49 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> I wonder if I will face theses issuea with the cof ax scanner software and >> a megabux retired scanner we were gifted.. .. thing Is bw only.. > > With old scanners,

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On 12/19/18 7:41 AM, Ethan via cctalk wrote: >> Really? Show me one that is 1) in current production, 2) offers the >> full ISA bus (not just some decoded address lines and 8 data lines), >> 3) plugs into a PCI slot. >> Christian > > Surprised no one has used something like an ATMega or cheap USB

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I too have an old spectrometer that requires a PC with an ISA slot, [Bomem MB series] and the interface card is ISA form.  It has been a challenge to find old PC's with an ISA slot, most are recycled for scrap.  The ones I have came from thrift stores, but now the thrift stores are reluctant

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FYI The PS/2 Model 30 (8530) is a 80C86 CPU. Same as the Model 25 (8525). b

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> On Dec 19, 2018, at 3:51 AM, Peter Corlett via cctalk > wrote: > > It's a nostalgia market, and the stuff that's peaking is when those who are > starting to hit their mid-life crisis are getting nostalgic for the stuff of > their youth. That's now the 1995-2005 era, and 16 and 32 bit

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> On Dec 19, 2018, at 12:49 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk > wrote: > > I wonder if I will face theses issuea with the cof ax scanner software and a > megabux retired scanner we were gifted.. .. thing Is bw only.. With old scanners, always look at what the I/O interface is, and see if it’s a

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-Original Message- >From: Liam Proven via cctalk >Sent: Dec 19, 2018 5:57 AM >To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" >Subject: Re: More old stuff incoming > >On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 22:42, Grant Taylor via cctalk > wrote: >> >&g

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Really? Show me one that is 1) in current production, 2) offers the full ISA bus (not just some decoded address lines and 8 data lines), 3) plugs into a PCI slot. Christian Surprised no one has used something like an ATMega or cheap USB connected ARM to build a USB to ISA adapter with tie in

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: So yes, there is a little bit of demand, I reckon. Not highly commercial, though. There's enough of a market to support folks building replicas of the Adlib sound card. I've seen evidence of a Sound Blaster 1.0 replica - I think they called

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> > > > > > The broader GUI vintage includes all Windows/MAC, Amiga, NeXT, SGI > desktops made for home use, > > >Whoah whoah whoah, what? > > >SGI made home computers?! > I knew people who had them at home, but expand my distinction into the home business desktop publishing people.Most

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On 2018-12-18 16:08, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > >> On Dec 18, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Electronics Plus via cctalk >> wrote: > Cindy, I’m curious, is there really a market for 8086/88, 286, and 386 > computers? What are folks using them for? There were some nice '386 and '486 machines out

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 13:35, Bill Degnan wrote: > > 486 / early pentium computers have their own support challenges, both > hardware and software. The skills differ from the XT era PC clones and such. Yup. > This is definitely a vintage era of it's own, I call the GUI era to > differentiate

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> > Absolutely. No disagreement there at all. > > But because the kit is mysterious to them, they're willing to spend > money to get it and explore it. > > Same as people are now actively seeking late-era fast 486s and early > Pentium-era boxes, for Win9x gaming. A lot of games didn't make the >

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tis 2018-12-18 klockan 14:41 -0700 skrev Grant Taylor via cctalk: > On 12/18/2018 02:08 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > > Cindy, I’m curious, is there really a market for 8086/88, 286, and > > 386 computers? What are folks using them for? > > I know that there is an active IBM PS/2

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 12:51, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > > Realistically, computers made before around 2010 *are* antiques: something > where the main value is due to its age rather than its utility. Mostly, yup. When my laptop gave me some problems, start of 2017, I fired up my old

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On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:50:21PM +0100, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Peter Corlett wrote: >> For what it's worth, PCI-to-ISA adaptors exist. Virtualisation will let you > Really? Show me one that is 1) in current production, 2) offers the full ISA > bus (not just some

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 11:51, Peter Corlett via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Realistically, computers made before around 2010 *are* antiques: something > where the main value is due to its age rather than its utility. > > I worked with "technicians" at HP 10 years ago who couldn't

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On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 11:31:47AM +0100, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: [...] > For millennial-age geeks, pre-32-bit computers are antiques. They _might_ > just barely remember back to Win9x. So for them, a DOS machine is a voyage of > discovery into some of the more arcane pages of history. The

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On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, Peter Corlett wrote: For what it's worth, PCI-to-ISA adaptors exist. Virtualisation will let you Really? Show me one that is 1) in current production, 2) offers the full ISA bus (not just some decoded address lines and 8 data lines), 3) plugs into a PCI slot. Christian

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On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:03:56AM -0500, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > I repaired a Spectrometer for Morgan University in Baltimore that had a > vintage computer at its heart, used for training purposes and perfectly good. > The computer just needed some TLC to get it back up and running. I

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On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 22:42, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > I think PS/2s range from 286 - (very few) Pentium. I don't /think/ > there were any 8086 / 8088 PS/2s, but I could be mistaken. As "system_glitch" said, there were. The original model 30 was an 8086, and not even a great one --

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On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 22:08, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > > Cindy, I’m curious, is there really a market for 8086/88, 286, and 386 > computers? What are folks using them for? Judging from the FB "Vintage" Computer Club, yes, a small one. For millennial-age geeks, pre-32-bit computers are

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I wonder if I will face theses issuea with the cof ax scanner software and a megabux retired scanner we were gifted.. .. thing Is bw only.. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 Jason Howe via cctalk wrote: Indeed. Just this year, we pulled our Pentium Pro box off our

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I repaired a Spectrometer for Morgan University in Baltimore that had a vintage computer at its heart, used for training purposes and perfectly good. The computer just needed some TLC to get it back up and running. I think it was a P-II as well, there was a control card that would only work with

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On 12/18/2018 9:53 PM, Jason Howe via cctalk wrote: Indeed. Just this year, we pulled our Pentium Pro box off our museum shelf and did a fresh install of NT4 for a faculty member and their scientific instrument. --Jason Z80's and 8 bit IBM pc's are making a come back if you dig on the

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Indeed. Just this year, we pulled our Pentium Pro box off our museum shelf and did a fresh install of NT4 for a faculty member and their scientific instrument. --Jason On 12/18/18 5:48 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: On Dec 18, 2018, at 2:51 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: I would take a

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> On Dec 18, 2018, at 2:51 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > I would take a guess for custom hardware or software that never migrated to > Windows 13 or USB IIV. Ben. Being a photographer, I know there is a real market for this. Many high-end scanners will only work with older Macintosh or

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Thanks for doing this, Cindy! Old Apollo and HP stuff (they used to be separate companies, but HP bought Apollo in the late 1980s) is definitely something I and others want. There’s also a small aftermarket for HP 9000/200 and HP 9000/300 equipment since there are still industrial control &

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On 12/18/2018 2:08 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: On Dec 18, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: I talked to a recycler today, who said he told his workers to throw out 2000 Model F keyboards last week, but he doubts they did it. I also asked him about 8088, 2086, and

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Sure, the PS/2 Model 25 and 30 were 8086. There's a lot of x86 gear still in production in industrial environments. I've got a customer running part of a semiconductor line on industrial 286s with no plans to retire them anytime soon. Not the oldest systems I support for $day_job by far. And of

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On 12/18/2018 02:08 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: Cindy, I’m curious, is there really a market for 8086/88, 286, and 386 computers? What are folks using them for? I know that there is an active IBM PS/2 collectors community that would be happy with anything in that range. I think PS/2s

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> Cindy, I’m curious, is there really a market for 8086/88, 286, and 386 > computers? What are folks using them for? Why not? I am guessing most are used to play games but it really depends on your generation and time period. I am always surprised how many DEC/PDP aficionados there are. At

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> On Dec 18, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Electronics Plus via cctalk > wrote: > > I talked to a recycler today, who said he told his workers to throw out 2000 > Model F keyboards last week, but he doubts they did it. > > I also asked him about 8088, 2086, and 386 computers. He said they go > straight