On 1/12/19 6:45 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
> On 01/12/2019 05:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>> On 1/12/19 4:30 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
>>> On 01/12/2019 04:14 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 1/12/19 2:25 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
> On 01/12/2019 12:29 PM,
On 01/12/2019 05:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> On 1/12/19 4:30 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
>> On 01/12/2019 04:14 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>>> On 1/12/19 2:25 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
On 01/12/2019 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
> On 12/01/2019
On 1/12/19 4:30 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
> On 01/12/2019 04:14 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>> On 1/12/19 2:25 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
>>> On 01/12/2019 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> I’m pretty sure
On 01/12/2019 04:14 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> On 1/12/19 2:25 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
>> On 01/12/2019 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
>>> On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>>
I’m pretty sure you could get the /23+, /53, /73, /83, and /93 in
On 1/12/19 2:25 PM, allison via cctalk wrote:
> On 01/12/2019 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
>> On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>> I’m pretty sure you could get the /23+, /53, /73, /83, and /93 in
>>> either a BA23 or a BA123. I have an actual badged BA23 pedestal
On 01/12/2019 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
> On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>
>> I’m pretty sure you could get the /23+, /53, /73, /83, and /93 in
>> either a BA23 or a BA123. I have an actual badged BA23 pedestal for
>> my /23+.
>
> I'm fairly certain all
On 01/12/2019 12:36 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> On 1/12/19 12:24 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
>> On 11/01/2019 23:58, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:51 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
>>> wrote:
Mine are all BA23. Wasn't the BA123 for the
On 12/01/2019 17:39, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
One confusing part of this. Everything I have read today
seems to say that the only difference between the 11/73
and the 11/83 in a MicroPDP-11 was the memory used.
QBUS = 11/73
PMI = 11/83
Is this correct or not?
No, not really, but
On 1/12/19 1:13 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote:
> On 1/12/19 11:39 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>> On 1/12/19 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
>>> On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>>
I’m pretty sure you could get the /23+, /53, /73, /83, and /93 in
either a
On 1/12/19 11:39 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 1/12/19 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
I’m pretty sure you could get the /23+, /53, /73, /83, and /93 in
either a BA23 or a BA123. I have an actual badged BA23 pedestal for
On 1/12/19 11:31 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
On 1/12/19 9:20 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Well, the problem is definitely bus grant as with just two memory
cards in the machine I put the disk controller in and it does not
show up in the Map. The only problem with this is
On 1/12/19 12:29 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
> On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>
>> I’m pretty sure you could get the /23+, /53, /73, /83, and /93 in
>> either a BA23 or a BA123. I have an actual badged BA23 pedestal for
>> my /23+.
>
> I'm fairly certain all
On 1/12/19 12:24 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
> On 11/01/2019 23:58, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:51 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>> Mine are all BA23. Wasn't the BA123 for the MicroVAX?
>>
>> As sold, most likely. I don't think DEC ever
On 12/01/2019 01:24, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
I’m pretty sure you could get the /23+, /53, /73, /83, and /93 in either a BA23
or a BA123. I have an actual badged BA23 pedestal for my /23+.
I'm fairly certain all microPDP-11/23+ systems were only sold in BA23
boxes, and I think
On 11/01/2019 23:58, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:51 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
Mine are all BA23. Wasn't the BA123 for the MicroVAX?
As sold, most likely. I don't think DEC ever configured any MicroPDP
systems in a BA123 but no reason it doesn't work.
On 1/12/19 9:20 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>
>
> Well, the problem is definitely bus grant as with just two memory
> cards in the machine I put the disk controller in and it does not
> show up in the Map. The only problem with this is the question
> Why? I have examined the memory
Well, the problem is definitely bus grant as with just two memory
cards in the machine I put the disk controller in and it does not
show up in the Map. The only problem with this is the question
Why? I have examined the memory cards. The C-D (actually, C)
does have the bus grant lines
Hi Bill,
I have a bunch of both DEC and compatible memories, and extra CPUs. If you
need anything, contact me off list.
Thanks, Paul
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:49 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> Well, I have decided to stop playing with my hardware for a while
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 6:24 PM Zane Healy via cctalk
wrote:
>
> > On Jan 11, 2019, at 4:55 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 7:11 PM Adrian Graham via cctalk
> > wrote:
> >> It’s going back severalteen years now but I’m pretty sure I
> On Jan 11, 2019, at 4:55 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 7:11 PM Adrian Graham via cctalk
> wrote:
>> It’s going back severalteen years now but I’m pretty sure I built a Micro 73
>> into a BA123, it’s a CD22 backplane after all. I still have all the cards
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 7:11 PM Adrian Graham via cctalk
wrote:
> It’s going back severalteen years now but I’m pretty sure I built a Micro 73
> into a BA123, it’s a CD22 backplane after all. I still have all the cards AND
> the BA123 but I’m supposed to be turning it back into the MVII it was
> On 11 Jan 2019, at 23:59, Ethan Dicks via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 4:39 PM Pete Turnbull via cctalk
> wrote:
>>> Mine are all BA23. Wasn't the BA123 for the MicroVAX?
>>
>> No, it was introduced for the microPDP-11 series, and only later used
>> for MicroVAX and
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 4:39 PM Pete Turnbull via cctalk
wrote:
> > Mine are all BA23. Wasn't the BA123 for the MicroVAX?
>
> No, it was introduced for the microPDP-11 series, and only later used
> for MicroVAX and MicroVAX-II. There are many microPDP-11/83 machines in
> BA123 cabinets, it was
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:51 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
> Mine are all BA23. Wasn't the BA123 for the MicroVAX?
As sold, most likely. I don't think DEC ever configured any MicroPDP
systems in a BA123 but no reason it doesn't work.
I got an empty BA123 a while back and when I get a
On 11/01/2019 19:59, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
MicroPDP box has first three slots A-B-C-D to support PMI
memory and the rest are serpentine A-B.
Even giving a bus grant problem, I can't see that causing a CSR
error. I will probably have to dig out another box this weekend
just to be
On 1/11/19 11:28 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Well, it has been so long since I had to put together an
entire system I forgot what fun it can be.
With almost documentation I was able to configure 4 1meg
memory modules and I tested them all in my 11/23+ box.
KDJ11-B with 4 different
On 01/11/2019 02:32 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > From: Allison Parent
>
> > Most Probable cause is interrupt grant is broken.
>
> The only -11 that complains if the grant chain is broken that I know of is
> the /34 (maybe the /04 too). I certainly have a QBUS chassis right next
On 1/11/19 2:32 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> > From: Allison Parent
>
> > Most Probable cause is interrupt grant is broken.
>
> The only -11 that complains if the grant chain is broken that I know of is
> the /34 (maybe the /04 too). I certainly have a QBUS chassis right next
On 1/11/19 2:25 PM, Allison Parent via cctalk wrote:
> Most Probable cause is interrupt grant is broken. For most microspheres
> backplanes the first three slots are different than remaining.
Yes, that's true. But the problem doesn't occur until the 5th slot.
And a quick look at the C-D edges
Most Probable cause is interrupt grant is broken. For most microspheres
backplanes the first three slots are different than remaining.
Phoned this in!
On Jan 11, 2019, at 12:28 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
Well, it has been so long since I had to put together an
entire system I
On 1/9/19 2:28 PM, Henk Gooijen via cctalk wrote:
>
> As far as I know about the 11/93 (or 11/94), all memory is on the CPU module.
> The 11/9[3|4] is sort-of an 11/8[3|4] with all (PMI) memory on the CPU module
> as the cache on the 8[3|4].
>
> The 11/9[3|4] with 2 MB RAM can only be upgraded
As far as I know about the 11/93 (or 11/94), all memory is on the CPU module.
The 11/9[3|4] is sort-of an 11/8[3|4] with all (PMI) memory on the CPU module
as the cache on the 8[3|4].
The 11/9[3|4] with 2 MB RAM can only be upgraded to 4 MB by adding RAM chips on
the CPU module.
However, all
> From: Bill Gunshannon
> I have a number of different memory modules. Mostly DEC but a couple
> zthird party. Here's the problem. None of them are reflected in any of
> the documentation I have been able to find so I can't configure them
> away from their defaults! ...
>
On 1/9/19 12:49 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
And then I have two non-DEC module that are unlikely to
have any documentation still floating around for.
Camintonn CMV-1000 -- As funny as it sounds, this one
looks more like a DEC MSV11-QA
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