Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-31 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I only have the S (well, there is a second one in the basement I need to drag up). I did have one of those little 4 slot dual width boxes that had a power supply but I sold it. Wouldn't help with quad width modules anyway. There's another BA23 down there, I'll probably try to haul it up next

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-31 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Interesting. I have a Contemporary Cybernetics 8505 drive that I think used the Exabyte tape system, will have to dig it out and see what it looks like. Used them at the IEEE Computer Society for years but finally went with IBM LTO tape libraries at Science. The LTOs were more reliable. C On

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-31 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Thanks Noel, Yes, I tried to repair an 11/34 once after somebody plugged a peripheral board into a memory slot - I was doing well after 3 or 4 chip chnages, it started to come to life, until I found the 20V went right into an d=address line of an in-house numbered ROM! Having been warned by

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-31 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Not so lucky n Canada!  They wanted $28 shipping! So I got a box of 10 for $28 - but delivery end of Feb. Back burner until then! Thanks Nigel Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! Skype: TILBURY2591 nw.john...@ieee.org

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 6:16 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > > I can't go very far with the EXB8200 because I don't have a cartridge > for it. I am now trying the Compaq DLT4000. > You can still get boxes of sealed never used EXABYTE 112M 8mm data tapes cheap. For example a quick search

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Glen Slick > The KDJ11-E 11/93 has PMI signals on the CD connectors, so you need a > Q/CD backplane I have this bit set that plugging a PMI card into a Q/Q slot will damage it? (I think the issue is that some PMI pins are 12V on normal QBUS; too tired to check tonight, I'll

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Thank you Jim, John, and Glen. I'll see if I can find one to tryout. Good night, Nigel Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU Amateur Radio, the origin of the open-source concept! Skype: TILBURY2591 nw.john...@ieee.org On 2021-01-30 8:52 p.m., Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: >

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 01/30/2021 07:41 PM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: btw, I found an Exabyte 8200 in a pile of stuff I bought at VCF East last year (but one :-) ) Does anybody on the list have experience getting this to work on a Dilog SQ703 under NetBSD? Exabytes are pretty classic SCSi tape drives.

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 1/30/2021 6:16 PM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: I can't go very far with the EXB8200 because I don't have a cartridge for it.  I am now trying the Compaq DLT4000. Off the shelf 8mm tape media works fine.  Might not be "archival" rated, but I have stuff that is 30 years old and reads

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
I can't go very far with the EXB8200 because I don't have a cartridge for it.  I am now trying the Compaq DLT4000. Unfortunately there is not a lot the on-board Dilog diagnostics can do.  I have tried sedning direct commands to it such as unload, but nothing ha[p[pens.it is my oinly hope to get

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 5:41 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > > btw, I found an Exabyte 8200 in a pile of stuff I bought at VCF East > last year (but one :-) ) Does anybody on the list have experience > getting this to work on a Dilog SQ703 under NetBSD? I'm not sure if I have tried an

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Thanks, Glen.  I got out of direct field work around that time, and set up a subsidiary of Emulex in Canada - so I was more concerned with sales figures than buses.  That makes perfect sense, I had forgotten about the 11/94. Funny how all my controllers are now Dilog, Plessey, and Sigma :-) btw,

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 3:58 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > > OK, thanks, Glen, i didn't think of that! Not sure why they would do > that with all memeory on-board! > The PMI interfaces of the KDJ11-B and KDJ11-E modules are used to interface to the M8191 KTJ11-B UNIBUS adaptor in the

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
OK, thanks, Glen, i didn't think of that! Not sure why they would do that with all memeory on-board! One thing I though of was just buying some IDC 36-pin card edge connectors and wiring them together for the work bench! cheers, Nigel Nigel Johnson, MSc., MIEEE, MCSE VE3ID/G4AJQ/VA3MCU

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 2:20 PM Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > > Yes the BA11S would be too big. Can't see why not for the 11/03 chassis. > I used to make a good living upgrading 1/03 chasses with four extra bits > for the 11/23/73 (Hmm, where is my old stock of W933 bus strip!) > Always

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Yes the BA11S would be too big. Can't see why not for the 11/03 chassis. I used to make a good living upgrading 1/03 chasses with four extra bits for the 11/23/73  (Hmm, where is my old stock of W933 bus strip!)  Always works except in the MINC laboratory system, which used those four pins for

Re: Small DEC QBUS backplane

2021-01-30 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Hm. I have a 9 slot BA11-S that I have to sell/ebay/something here, but that's probably way too big for you. I wonder though: Would an 11/93 explode if put in a traditional 18 bit 11/03 chassis? The one with the memory refresh lines and power for core memory. Probably. CZ On 1/30/2021 12:30