Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-26 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Antonio Carlini > I think the best thing to do would be to get the data into manx. Manx > feels like the right tool for finding manuals. Yes, I agree. Replicating the data, in a system which isn't organized to hold it (i.e. the CHWiki) would be a desperation move, only to be

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-26 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 25/08/2019 22:52, shad via cctech wrote: . I could scan all of my documents with a specified resolution and lossless compression, even if these are duplicates of Carlini's, so these can be added to bitsavers. Could it be considered useful? If you want to add anything I've scanned to

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-26 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 25/08/2019 19:41, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 8/25/19 10:51 AM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: >> That might be getting hard to read >> these days unless you happen to have an OpenVMS machine with DECWindows. > There was a way to translate it to Postscript > Copies of the CDs in

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-26 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 25/08/2019 15:18, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > I guess I should see if Richard Thomson (he's the last name on: > > http://manx-docs.org/about.php > > so I assume it's still him) needs/could use help updating Manx content; anyone > know how to reach him (no contact info anywhere on the

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-25 Thread shadoooo via cctalk
Hello, yes, bitsavers and the efforts of Al are invaluable! Considering that I'm referring only to DEC PDFs, but the archive is indeed far more vast then this, the time to maintain all of it is way over what normal people would dedicate to free time jobs... simply that could mean that Al is a

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-25 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 25/08/2019 18:28, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: Starting around the VMS 5.5 era, isn’t anything from then or later on the Condist documentation CD’s? And thus we don’t have to make a priority for scanning? Tim N3QE The early ones were just in BOOKREADER format, although that can be

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-25 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 25/08/2019 15:18, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: I guess if that fails, I could include links to online manuals in CHWiki pages. That would be a massive campaign, even just the PDP-11 hardware and PDP-10 hardware (all I'd want to do) would be weeks of works. There's no way I could do all the

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-25 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/25/19 10:51 AM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: > That might be getting hard to read > these days unless you happen to have an OpenVMS machine with DECWindows. There was a way to translate it to Postscript Copies of the CDs in that form were on the web for a while, haven't looked

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-25 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 8/25/2019 12:28 PM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: Starting around the VMS 5.5 era, isn’t anything from then or later on the Condist documentation CD’s? And thus we don’t have to make a priority for scanning? Tim N3QE IIRC, most of the documentation on the ConDists were in DEC's

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-25 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
> Starting around the VMS 5.5 era, isn’t anything from then or later on > the Condist documentation CD’s? And thus we don’t have to make a > priority for scanning? The stuff I have is mostly pre 4.5. Aaron

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-25 Thread Shoppa, Tim via cctalk
Starting around the VMS 5.5 era, isn’t anything from then or later on the Condist documentation CD’s? And thus we don’t have to make a priority for scanning? Tim N3QE

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-25 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Al Kossow > I don't even have time to deal with all of my paper. Understood. A huge 'thank you' for all the work you have put in, to saving and making available a massive quantity of old documentation. Given that we have stuff scattered across a number of sites, rather than

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-25 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/25/19 12:43 AM, shad via cctalk wrote: why collected manuals from other sites couldn't be added to bitsavers too? With a few exceptions, I don't troll other sites for content. I don't even have time to deal with all of my paper.

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-25 Thread shadoooo via cctalk
Hello, I also have a bunch of manuals, mainly for rt11, which aren't available in bitsavers. I always thought of bitsavers as the "whole" archive for DEC stuff, however time ago, sorting these manuals, I found they where available only on Manx or Antonio Carlini's archive. Many manuals then are

Processing two-colour printed manuals - was Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2019-08-24 5:09 p.m., Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 8/24/19 10:45 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > >> By the way, what's your position on scanning two-colour printed manuals >> like the DTR ones? Not worth keeping the colour for Bitsavers? > > I'd like to do it for all the multi-color text manuals, but

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 8/24/2019 3:56 PM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: I have done some test scans tonight. If anyone has any feedback, now would be a good time to give it, before I spend many more hours scanning. http://aaronsplace.co.uk/private/myscans/ Thanks, Aaron I looked at the Error Log Utility

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 8/24/2019 4:11 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 8/24/19 1:38 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: On 8/24/2019 3:30 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: I'll have to double check, but from the looks of this list I don't need the VAX/VMS Grey Wall that I acquired a couple months

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/24/19 1:38 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: > On 8/24/2019 3:30 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: >> I'll have to double check, but from the looks of this list I don't need the >> VAX/VMS Grey Wall that I acquired a couple >> months ago.  It's a nearly pristine set of the

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/24/19 10:45 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > By the way, what's your position on scanning two-colour printed manuals > like the DTR ones? Not worth keeping the colour for Bitsavers? I'd like to do it for all the multi-color text manuals, but I never came up with a way to map to single shades per

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
I have done some test scans tonight. If anyone has any feedback, now would be a good time to give it, before I spend many more hours scanning. http://aaronsplace.co.uk/private/myscans/ Thanks, Aaron Aaron Jackson writes: > Many thanks to Matt Burke and Al Kassow, I have reduced my list of

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 8/24/2019 3:30 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: I'll have to double check, but from the looks of this list I don't need the VAX/VMS Grey Wall that I acquired a couple months ago.  It's a nearly pristine set of the V5.0 VAX/VMS documentation set. Some volumes are still sealed in

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
I'll have to double check, but from the looks of this list I don't need the VAX/VMS Grey Wall that I acquired a couple months ago.  It's a nearly pristine set of the V5.0 VAX/VMS documentation set. Some volumes are still sealed in plastic. On 8/24/2019 12:03 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
Many thanks to Matt Burke and Al Kassow, I have reduced my list of "need to scan" to 24 manuals. If anyone has any of these, please let me know so I can avoid scanning them. AA-Y510B-TEGuide to VAX / VMS System Security AI-Y517A-TEVAX / VMS User's Manual AA-Z501C-TEVAX / VMS System

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
> On 8/24/19 12:18 AM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: >> I have a full book case of DEC binders, each containing one or more >> manuals. I went through the lot of it this evening and checked to see >> what was on bitsavers. It seems an awful lot of it is not available. > > here is a list of the

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2019-08-24 1:03 p.m., Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 8/24/19 12:18 AM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: >> I have a full book case of DEC binders, each containing one or more >> manuals. I went through the lot of it this evening and checked to see >> what was on bitsavers. It seems an

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/24/19 12:18 AM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: > I have a full book case of DEC binders, each containing one or more > manuals. I went through the lot of it this evening and checked to see > what was on bitsavers. It seems an awful lot of it is not available. here is a list of the

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
> On 24/08/2019 08:18, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: >> I'm going to try to scan as much as I can. The full list of what I have >> is available at the link below. It is mostly mid 1980's VAX/VMS >> stuff.. If anyone would like one of the manuals for the cost of >> shipping, I'd gladly send it

Re: Too many DEC binders

2019-08-24 Thread Matt Burke via cctalk
On 24/08/2019 08:18, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: > I'm going to try to scan as much as I can. The full list of what I have > is available at the link below. It is mostly mid 1980's VAX/VMS > stuff.. If anyone would like one of the manuals for the cost of > shipping, I'd gladly send it over to