RE: Unidentified chip -- Spoiler for HP 1260-0339

2015-08-07 Thread tony duell
It doesn't even shunt across; it's just 16 pins in a DIL package floating? Strange. If it were a manufacturing test, one wouldn't expect it would show up in production machines? Yes. It is just 16 pins unconnected to each other. As I mentioned some messages ago it is used as a connector.

Re: Unidentified chip -- Spoiler for HP 1260-0339

2015-08-06 Thread Fred Cisin
Pin-out? Data sheet?

RE: Unidentified chip -- Spoiler for HP 1260-0339

2015-08-06 Thread tony duell
And come to think of it, I bet those dummy chips were used for training people to hand stuff boards as well. The Amstrad PCW8256 (word processor) came with 256K of RAM but could be expanded to 512K essentially by adding another 8 41256 DRAM chips. Some companies in the UK sold the 9-chip

Re: Unidentified chip -- Spoiler for HP 1260-0339

2015-08-06 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/06/2015 02:25 PM, William Donzelli wrote: It could also be a chip used to test an auto-insertion machine or wave solder machine. If memory serves, they'll use correctly pinned but fake parts to test those processes before moving to the more expensive real thing. Yes, there were a few

RE: Unidentified chip -- Spoiler for HP 1260-0339

2015-08-06 Thread tony duell
Amazingly there is nothing inside that 16pin DIL package. No silicon chip, no thick-film resistor network, nothing. It is just a package with the pins. Are you sure? They might have gotten a really good deal on Well, I've not x-rayed one, but I could detect no conductivity or diode

Re: Unidentified chip -- Spoiler for HP 1260-0339

2015-08-06 Thread William Donzelli
It could also be a chip used to test an auto-insertion machine or wave solder machine. If memory serves, they'll use correctly pinned but fake parts to test those processes before moving to the more expensive real thing. Yes, there were a few companies that made dummy chips for exactly that

Re: Unidentified chip -- Spoiler for HP 1260-0339

2015-08-06 Thread geneb
On Thu, 6 Aug 2015, Eric Smith wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:22 AM, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: Amazingly there is nothing inside that 16pin DIL package. No silicon chip, no thick-film resistor network, nothing. It is just a package with the pins. Are you sure? They might

RE: Unidentified chip -- Spoiler for HP 1260-0339

2015-08-06 Thread tony duell
As a total aside, on some HP boards there is a 16 pin DIL package with the part number 1260-0339. Any ideas what that chip is? What chip? Amazingly there is nothing inside that 16pin DIL package. No silicon chip, no thick-film resistor network, nothing. It is just a package with the pins.