RE: dd-equivalent for VMS

2017-06-17 Thread Richard Loken via cctalk
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: I have cloned drives that way for VMS systems. Backup/image is the tool for that. So have I, but it doesn't work for tapes. Unless someone knows a trick that I have not discovered? No, backup won't do what you want. Backup is designed to

RE: dd-equivalent for VMS

2017-06-17 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rick > Murphy via cctalk > Sent: 17 June 2017 14:06 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: dd-equivalent for VMS > > On 6/17/2017 4:04 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: &g

Re: dd-equivalent for VMS

2017-06-17 Thread Rick Murphy via cctalk
On 6/17/2017 4:04 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: On 06/16/2017 09:04 AM, Ed Thierbach via cctalk wrote: BACKUP/IMAGE might work. I have a dim recollection of moving system drives around that way, but it's been a few decades. :-) I have cloned drives that way for VMS systems. Backup/image

RE: dd-equivalent for VMS

2017-06-16 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Behalf Of Robert > DiRosario via cctalk > Sent: 16 June 2017 15:28 > To: cct...@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: dd-equivalent for VMS > > You could remove the disk from your Ultrix box, install another diskand > install > NetBSD. The Pmax version works on the DEC MIPS > boxes:

Re: dd-equivalent for VMS

2017-06-16 Thread Robert DiRosario via cctalk
You could remove the disk from your Ultrix box, install another diskand install NetBSD.  The Pmax version works on the DEC MIPS boxes:http://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/pmax/.  You could also do that on your DECAlpha. The TK50Z should be a SCSI drive, you could also just move the drive to another

Re: dd-equivalent for VMS

2017-06-16 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
I used a TZ30 under Linux. I found that the TZ30 mechanism is significantly less troublesome than the TK50 (IIRC the TK50Z is the same mechanism with a SCSI interface board). Used an Adaptec AHA-1522 ISA SCSI controller. FWIW, my TK50 cartridges seemed to be suffering from tape stickiness. 30

Re: dd-equivalent for VMS

2017-06-16 Thread Ed Thierbach via cctalk
BACKUP/IMAGE might work. I have a dim recollection of moving system drives around that way, but it's been a few decades. :-) Best of luck, and let us know how it goes. -Ed- On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 8:46 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On Jun 16, 2017, at 3:00

Re: dd-equivalent for VMS

2017-06-16 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 16, 2017, at 3:00 AM, Chris Hanson via cctalk > wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk > wrote: >> >> Is there a dd equivalent for VMS? > > I’m pretty sure PIP is the “dd” equivalent on DEC operating systems in

Re: dd-equivalent for VMS

2017-06-16 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:00:00AM -0700, Chris Hanson via cctalk wrote: > On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk > wrote: > > > > Is there a dd equivalent for VMS? > > I’m pretty sure PIP is the “dd” equivalent on DEC operating systems in > general. >

Re: dd-equivalent for VMS

2017-06-16 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:30 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > Is there a dd equivalent for VMS? I’m pretty sure PIP is the “dd” equivalent on DEC operating systems in general. -- Chris