Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-20 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2020-06-19 20:37, Chris Zach wrote: > Yes, there was D and F, and F and G versions. Everything else was > emulated slowly. Putt putt it was Right! I have at least one of them. You know how one would see, which one it is? Different board numbers? > On 6/8/2020 3:26 PM, emanuel stiebler wrot

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-19 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Yes, there was D and F, and F and G versions. Everything else was emulated slowly. Putt putt it was On 6/8/2020 3:26 PM, emanuel stiebler wrote: On 2020-06-08 11:55, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: 4) The 11/730 could emulate pdp11 instructions, the MV1 could not. Come to think of it I think

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 8, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk > wrote: > > On 08/06/2020 21:54, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> Although there are exceptions. I recall that it was possible, using >> large page sizes on the CDC STAR-100 to execute an instruction that >> could never get started

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 08/06/2020 21:54, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Although there are exceptions. I recall that it was possible, using large page sizes on the CDC STAR-100 to execute an instruction that could never get started. The STAR had 512KW (64 bits) of memory and a large page size was 64KW. A typical

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 08/06/2020 20:49, ben via cctalk wrote: But speed is relative. They changed computers where I was studing electronics from a IBM-1130 to a VAX (something) in 1982. I could use the IBM but the not VAX because they would have too many users if that division had access to the VAX, and the elect

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/8/20 12:49 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > But speed is relative. They changed computers where I was studing > electronics from a IBM-1130 to a VAX (something) in 1982. > I could use the IBM but the not VAX because they would have too > many users if that division had access to the VAX, and the >

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread ben via cctalk
On 6/8/2020 6:46 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: On 08/06/2020 13:02, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: Guys be nice! That's the slowest VAX, right? In a small cabinet, I would take it, simply for that ;-) In terms of speed I think the MicroVAX I might be even slower, although whether y

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2020-06-08 11:55, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > 4) The 11/730 could emulate pdp11 instructions, the MV1 could not. Come > to think of it I think the 730's floating point could do D,F,G,H while > the MV1 could only do D,F,G. IIRC, there were two versions of the MV I board sets with different f

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 10:53 PM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > Hmmm, separate sentence, I think they are saying they have > VAX 6000's and VAX 730's available, > call for freight quote. Wow, who would want a 730? I would, but I already have one, so like Tony, I don't need *another* one. -ethan

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread Bob Smith via cctalk
I believe your recollection is correct. I was working on a project and looking at replacing a bunch of 11 boxes, and we had an NDA discussion of what would be MVII. WE selected those to replace the aging 11 boxes, the configuration gave us more compute nodes, less power consumption, and much less p

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 08/06/2020 16:55, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: I have a MV1 board set here, I'd be willing to fire up VMS to see if it's slower if someone wants to send me a TK50 boot tape but I'm guessing it would be the slowest Vax on earth. Reasons why: 1) MV1 has only 4mb of memory to the 730's 5mb. 2

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I have a MV1 board set here, I'd be willing to fire up VMS to see if it's slower if someone wants to send me a TK50 boot tape but I'm guessing it would be the slowest Vax on earth. Reasons why: 1) MV1 has only 4mb of memory to the 730's 5mb. 2) I believe the 730 accesses memory in 32 bit chunk

RE: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of emanuel stiebler > via cctalk > Sent: 08 June 2020 13:03 > To: r.stricklin ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts ; General Discussion: On-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Someone's conf

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 08/06/2020 13:02, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: Guys be nice! That's the slowest VAX, right? In a small cabinet, I would take it, simply for that ;-) In terms of speed I think the MicroVAX I might be even slower, although whether you'd notice would be questionable! In terms of size t

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2020-06-08 02:35, r.stricklin via cctalk wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Jon Elson via cctech wrote: > >> Wow, who would want a 730? > Somebody very, very determined. Guys be nice! That's the slowest VAX, right? In a small cabinet, I would take it, simply for that ;-)

RE: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of r.stricklin via > cctalk > Sent: 08 June 2020 07:36 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Someone's confused > > > On Jun 7, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Jon Elson via cctech wrote: > > >

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-08 Thread r.stricklin via cctalk
On Jun 7, 2020, at 7:52 PM, Jon Elson via cctech wrote: > Wow, who would want a 730? Somebody very, very determined. ok bear. -- until further notice

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-07 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 3:53 AM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > Wow, who would want a 730? I would. Well, actually I have one so I don't need another but you get the point. There are only 2 families of VAXen that I would want to own/run. The 11/730 and the 11/780. The reason is that those are the

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 06/07/2020 07:11 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote: On 2020-Jun-07, at 8:30 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Love the title on this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184317705963 eBait auction: "16K Sense Inhibit Board .. VAX 6000, VAX-11/730". Yeah, core on a VAX! And such a deal, a mere US$4

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-07 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2020-Jun-07, at 8:30 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > Love the title on this: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/184317705963 > > eBait auction: "16K Sense Inhibit Board .. VAX 6000, VAX-11/730". > Yeah, core on a VAX! And such a deal, a mere US$400! To add to the weirdness, here are some actu

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-07 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 6/7/2020 2:11 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: prolly found it in a box of vax stuff lol On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:31 AM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 06/07/2020 10:30 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Love the title on this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184317705963 eBait auc

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-07 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
prolly found it in a box of vax stuff lol On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:31 AM Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 06/07/2020 10:30 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > Love the title on this: > > > >https://www.ebay.com/itm/184317705963 > > > > eBait auction: "16K Sense Inhibit Board .. VAX 6000

Re: Someone's confused

2020-06-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 06/07/2020 10:30 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Love the title on this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184317705963 eBait auction: "16K Sense Inhibit Board .. VAX 6000, VAX-11/730". Yeah, core on a VAX! And such a deal, a mere US$400! 1974 date codes. Not too likely to be VAX related! Jo

Someone's confused

2020-06-07 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
Love the title on this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/184317705963 eBait auction: "16K Sense Inhibit Board .. VAX 6000, VAX-11/730". Yeah, core on a VAX! And such a deal, a mere US$400! Noel