Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-29 Thread Ed via cctalk
We need to find a source of the pin feed paper for the 43! Also a great thing to round out the display would be to have the aux. tape reader punch that was marketed for it- non working is ok visually - working would be a wonderful thing! Ed# _www.smecc.org_

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-26 Thread Jason Howe via cctalk
I'm in Seattle and am very tempted by this --Jason On 05/22/2017 11:04 AM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote: If someone in the Pacific NW would like to have one, I'm in Portland and go to Seattle from time to time. Would like to at least see of it can find a home

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-26 Thread Jason Howe via cctalk
No eye rolling here. I'd have picked it up too! I would love to get my hands on hard-copy terminal. (Still kicking myself for not grabbing a free DecWriter III several years ago). --Jason On 05/22/2017 10:44 AM, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: OK, go ahead and roll your eyes at me, but I was

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-24 Thread Doug Ingraham via cctalk
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > On 5/23/2017 1:07 AM, dave.g4...@gmail.com wrote: > >> You probably need a null modem cable. >> > I had one (and used it), but not all null modem cables are evidently the > same :-) I soldered up a loopback

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-24 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 23, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Jim Brain via cctalk > wrote: > > On 5/23/2017 1:07 AM, dave.g4...@gmail.com wrote: >> You probably need a null modem cable. > I had one (and used it), but not all null modem cables are evidently the same > :-) I soldered up a loopback as

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-24 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
On 23.05.2017 06:57, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: Do you have a "traffic light"? I find them invaluable for diagnosing handshaking and TxD/RxD swaps. Yep. constant low on TX. Oh, I wrote my message before reading on in the thread... Sorry. Good that you have one!

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-24 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
On 23.05.2017 03:41, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: No eye-rolling here. Nice find! Here the same. Perhaps not the most wanted device - but... better have than need... I got home last night, and the unit fires up and works (well, in local mode. Docs claim it is rs232 out the back, but

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-24 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 5/23/2017 11:37 PM, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: Since those are not easy to dig up now, what options are there? Also, because there's often plenty of pigment, what oil/solvents are good to wrest some of that pigment back out of a dried ribbon? That is a question I'd like to

RE: Teletype 43

2017-05-24 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jim Brain > via cctalk > Sent: 24 May 2017 06:14 > To: Ethan Dicks <ethan.di...@gmail.com>; General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org&

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-23 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 5/23/2017 10:45 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: Back in the day, there was a re-inking product, the Mac Inker. I have a Re-inker, though not exactly like the Mac Inker, but the Model 43 has a built in "Mac Inker"-like inking system. It's a small loop of ribbon with a large felt round ink pad in the

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-23 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > On 5/23/2017 1:07 AM, dave.g4...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> You probably need a null modem cable. > > I had one (and used it), but not all null modem cables are evidently the > same :-) I soldered up a loopback as

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-23 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 5/23/2017 8:49 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: Not a positive sign. Dodged a bullet. Model 43 needs RTS, DTR, AND DCD to be active to drop into DATA MODE. Initial null modem cable does not connect DCD to DTR. Small fail. I'll have to mark that cable. Now, to decide how best to present this

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-23 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 5/23/2017 1:07 AM, dave.g4...@gmail.com wrote: You probably need a null modem cable. I had one (and used it), but not all null modem cables are evidently the same :-) I soldered up a loopback as you suggested, and the unit dropped into DATA MODE on startup. I then played with the signals.

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-23 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 12:57 AM, Jim Brain wrote: > On 5/22/2017 8:41 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: >> Do you have a "traffic light"? I find them invaluable for diagnosing >> handshaking and TxD/RxD swaps. > > Yep. constant low on TX. Not a positive sign. > It's

RE: Teletype 43

2017-05-23 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
y 2017 05:58 > To: Ethan Dicks <ethan.di...@gmail.com>; General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org>; Paul Koning > <paulkon...@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Teletype 43 > > On 5/22/2017 8:41 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > > >

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 5/22/2017 8:41 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: Do you have a "traffic light"? I find them invaluable for diagnosing handshaking and TxD/RxD swaps. Yep. constant low on TX. What worked was a serial port on a desktop. The first try. It's entirely possible, but I put a scope on the TX

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> On May 22, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Jim Brain via cctalk >> wrote: >> OK, go ahead and roll your eyes at me, but I was Dayton Hamvention last >> weekend, >> and there was a lonely Teletype

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Does your PC have real RS232? A lot of "RS232" ports are serial ports, The "CLASSIC" example: manager of the Radio Shack Computer Center told me that the TRS80 Model 1 Expansion Interface RS-232 board was, "by definition" completely "standard" for RS-232, since "RS-232" stood for "RADIO SHACK

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/22/2017 10:44 AM, Jim Brain via cctalk wrote: > I know it's not considered a "true" teletype, because it's > essentially a little uC, a KB, and a little dot matrix printer, but I > will wear the stigma of shame of not owning a "proper" mechanical > model 33. I got home last night, and the

RE: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
alk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Teletype 43 > > I had an employee of an electronics store tell me that the IBM modem > software on the 5.25" floppy for Windows would work fine on my > Macintosh... in the days long before Macintosh systems used non-Motorola > processo

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Pete Lancashire via cctalk
If someone in the Pacific NW would like to have one, I'm in Portland and go to Seattle from time to time. Would like to at least see of it can find a home https://goo.gl/photos/e2J5vHDGB6UtVFS49 The tractor feed belts have gone to plasticizer heaven On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Jim

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Norman Jaffe via cctalk
alk@classiccmp.org> To: "Fred Cisin" <ci...@xenosoft.com>, "cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 12:57:52 PM Subject: Re: Teletype 43 On Mon, 22 May 2017, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Mon, 22 May 2017, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 22 May 2017, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2017, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Does your PC have real RS232? A lot of "RS232" ports are serial ports, but not with correct RS232 levels. If you have "TTL RS232" [sic] it won't work with an actual RS232 port. The

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 22 May 2017, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Does your PC have real RS232? A lot of "RS232" ports are serial ports, but not with correct RS232 levels. If you have "TTL RS232" [sic] it won't work with an actual RS232 port. The "CLASSIC" example: manager of the Radio Shack Computer

Re: Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 22, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Jim Brain via cctalk > wrote: > > OK, go ahead and roll your eyes at me, but I was Dayton Hamvention last > weekend, and there was a lonely Teletype Model 43 sitting in the flea market > (on the ground, no less) for free, and so I decided

Teletype 43

2017-05-22 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
OK, go ahead and roll your eyes at me, but I was Dayton Hamvention last weekend, and there was a lonely Teletype Model 43 sitting in the flea market (on the ground, no less) for free, and so I decided I needed it in my life. I know it's not considered a "true" teletype, because it's