Re: VAX Q-bus identical to PDP-11 Q-bus?

2017-12-07 Thread Jerry Weiss via cctalk
> On Dec 7, 2017, at 1:22 PM, allison via cctalk wrote: > ….. > > As such PDP11 and VAX support is there unless the OS in non-DEC in > origin and even then if the > time frame made it a marketing requirement the third party OS vendor had it. > > An example is a RD54 on a

Re: VAX Q-bus identical to PDP-11 Q-bus?

2017-12-07 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Dec 7, 2017, at 2:22 PM, allison via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/07/2017 12:44 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> >>> On Dec 7, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> MSCP is a software protocol. Any device that

Re: VAX Q-bus identical to PDP-11 Q-bus?

2017-12-07 Thread allison via cctalk
On 12/07/2017 12:44 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > >> On Dec 7, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> ... >> MSCP is a software protocol. Any device that has a driver available for the >> PDP-11 operating system you want to use can use that device.

Re: VAX Q-bus identical to PDP-11 Q-bus?

2017-12-07 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Dec 7, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > MSCP is a software protocol. Any device that has a driver available for the > PDP-11 operating system you want to use can use that device. True with small variations. A sufficiently large disk

Re: VAX Q-bus identical to PDP-11 Q-bus?

2017-12-07 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 12/06/2017 03:43 PM, Aaron Jackson via cctalk wrote: Thanks Glen and Jerry. I think that settled that debate! haha Thanks, Aaron. Glen Slick writes: An M5976 KZQSA is not MSCP compatible so it wouldn't do any good with a PDP-11 system. It's really only useful for RRD4x SCSI CD-ROM

Re: VAX Q-bus identical to PDP-11 Q-bus?

2017-12-07 Thread Jerry Weiss via cctalk
The metal face on the Q-Bus cards was there as part of the solution to meet FCC (or equivalent) regulations to reduce electrical interference to radio receivers and other devices. If you can physically fit it into a older Qbus backplane and sort out the cabling it should work provided you have

Re: VAX Q-bus identical to PDP-11 Q-bus?

2017-12-07 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
An M5976 KZQSA is not MSCP compatible so it wouldn't do any good with a PDP-11 system. It's really only useful for RRD4x SCSI CD-ROM drives with VMS on a VAX 4000. On Dec 6, 2017 9:47 AM, "Aaron Jackson via cctech" wrote: I'm looking after a VAX 4000 for a friend, which

Re: VAX Q-bus identical to PDP-11 Q-bus?

2017-12-07 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
Thanks Glen and Jerry. I think that settled that debate! haha Thanks, Aaron. Glen Slick writes: > An M5976 KZQSA is not MSCP compatible so it wouldn't do any good with a > PDP-11 system. It's really only useful for RRD4x SCSI CD-ROM drives with > VMS on a VAX 4000. > > On Dec 6, 2017 9:47 AM,

VAX Q-bus identical to PDP-11 Q-bus?

2017-12-06 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
I'm looking after a VAX 4000 for a friend, which has a SCSI Q-bus card (M5976). If the card did not have the large metal face, would it work in a Q-bus PDP-11? We are not going to potentially ruin a card by trying this, but I am interested to know if this is the case. Thanks, Aaron.