Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

> Congratulations!! Thanks! > Now that you have a working system, will it be used to run any specific > programs? Based on your descriptions, the most important aspect of > the project was to get the H-11 system to run RT-11. What I am very > curious about is what do you will do

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

>Richard Cini wrote: All — To close this out, I want to report that with Malcolm’s and Mattis’ help, I was able to get RT-11 v4 and v5.03 running on the H-11 using the TU58 emulator. Avoiding the gory details, the upshot is that there was a bus interrupt issue relating to how the

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

On 13/03/2016 18:11, Richard Cini wrote: To close this out, I want to report that with Malcolm’s and Mattis’ help, I was able to get RT-11 v4 and v5.03 running on the H-11 using the TU58 emulator. Thanks to all who helped push me along on this. I did create a separate Heath page on my Web

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

All — To close this out, I want to report that with Malcolm’s and Mattis’ help, I was able to get RT-11 v4 and v5.03 running on the H-11 using the TU58 emulator. Avoiding the gory details, the upshot is that there was a bus interrupt issue relating to how the cards were

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

That's an awesome find Don, thanks! Rich Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 13, 2016, at 3:23 AM, Don North wrote: > > Ok, filed as: https://github.com/simh/simh/issues/285 > >> On 3/12/2016 11:14 PM, Don North wrote: >> Fixed! >> >> sim> set cpu 11/34 256K fpp >> sim> set tdc

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

2016-03-13 8:23 GMT+01:00 Don North : > Ok, filed as: https://github.com/simh/simh/issues/285 > > > On 3/12/2016 11:14 PM, Don North wrote: > >> Fixed! >> >> sim> set cpu 11/34 256K fpp >> sim> set tdc enable >> sim> attach tdc0 tu58.dsk >> sim> b tdc0 >> >> BOOTING UP XXDP-XM

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

Ok, filed as: https://github.com/simh/simh/issues/285 On 3/12/2016 11:14 PM, Don North wrote: Fixed! sim> set cpu 11/34 256K fpp sim> set tdc enable sim> attach tdc0 tu58.dsk sim> b tdc0 BOOTING UP XXDP-XM EXTENDED MONITOR XXDP-XM EXTENDED MONITOR - XXDP V2.5 REVISION: F0 BOOTED FROM DD0

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

Fixed! sim> set cpu 11/34 256K fpp sim> set tdc enable sim> attach tdc0 tu58.dsk sim> b tdc0 BOOTING UP XXDP-XM EXTENDED MONITOR XXDP-XM EXTENDED MONITOR - XXDP V2.5 REVISION: F0 BOOTED FROM DD0 124KW OF MEMORY UNIBUS SYSTEM RESTART ADDRESS: 152000 TYPE "H" FOR HELP ! In file pdp11_td.c,

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

So I turned on full debug on the TDC device and I see the boot block is being read correctly (bytes A0,00,20,01,...) but in the register reads following that transfer the boot block to the PDP11 the first byte (A0) is never seen, only bytes 00,20,01,... So it appears to be a real bug in the TU58

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

I've been doing some testing on the (new) SIMH TU58 device, and am finding that reading the boot block does not work. I have TU58 bootable images, and when I try and boot from them in SIMH they halt/crash. I adapted my PDP-11 M(312 TU58 boot code to a loadable SIMH image, and found that it

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

Whoops slight correction .. . the TU58 protocol supports a 16b block number, so it is 65536 blocks of 512B, or 32MB maximum. On 3/12/2016 3:55 PM, Don North wrote: Well looks like I have been living in the past ... I have been using v3.9 SIMH from the SIMH website (the 'legacy' version) and

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

Well looks like I have been living in the past ... I have been using v3.9 SIMH from the SIMH website (the 'legacy' version) and have now gone an upgraded to the github v4.0 version. This one it appears has supported the serial virtual TU58 device since mid 2015 (at least by comment dates). I

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

Jerome — Thanks for jumping in here. All good questions, and here’s what my plan is. I bought the H11 as a project. I have a soft spot for the PDP-11, after owning (and donating) an 11/34 to the RICM. This unit needed a lot of physical TLC but was believed to be functional (it

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

>On Thursday, February 10th, 2016 at 12:51:30 - 0500, Richard Cini wrote: Is there a listing somewhere of what versions of RT-11 work with which CPUs? The Heath H11 uses the LSI-11 which I think is an 11/03 equivalent. Is there a specific version (or maximum version) designed for this CPU? I

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

mp.org] on behalf of Richard Cini > [rich.c...@verizon.net] > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:35 PM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03 > > Mattis -- thanks! I'll check this out in detail when I get home tonight and >

RE: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

] on behalf of Richard Cini [rich.c...@verizon.net] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:35 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03 Mattis -- thanks! I'll check this out in detail when I get home tonight and I'll give it a try. Rich Sent from my

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

I had a little time after lunch to try the below procedure and using the beta version of SIMH I am able to create a tape image that's bootable by SIMH without the below error. I copied the following to the image, which I will try with TU58em when I get home tonight: DD, TT, rt11sj, DU, SL,

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

Mattis -- thanks! I'll check this out in detail when I get home tonight and I'll give it a try. Rich Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: >> >> SIMH has never directly supported mounting/attaching virtual TU58 devices. >> Altho the

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

> > SIMH has never directly supported mounting/attaching virtual TU58 devices. > Altho the required serial interface > is emulated (ie, a plain DL11 at 776500/300) the TU58 drive behind the > serial interface has never been emulated. > > > I just tested the latest SimH from github and it is indeed

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

On 3/10/2016 7:02 PM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: On 3/10/2016 9:36 PM, Richard Cini wrote: Separately… John — the SLUs are at what I think are the standard addresses and vectors (per the Heathkit and DLV11-J manuals) and the ODT and TU58EM work. I don’t know what RT-11 is looking for but the

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

On 3/10/2016 9:36 PM, Richard Cini wrote: Separately… John — the SLUs are at what I think are the standard addresses and vectors (per the Heathkit and DLV11-J manuals) and the ODT and TU58EM work. I don’t know what RT-11 is looking for but the console @ 177560/60 and TU58 @ 176500/300 (Channel

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

On 3/10/16, 9:07 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Paul Koning" wrote: > >> >If memory serves, what you have is part 1 of the boot (1 sector, block 0), >part 2 (2 sectors, block 2), then something is looking through the directory

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

> On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:51 PM, Don North wrote: > >> ... >> info: boot unit=0 blk=0x cnt=0x0200 >> info: read unit=0 sw=0x00 mod=0x00 blk=0x0002 cnt=0x0800 >> info: read unit=0 sw=0x00 mod=0x00 blk=0x0006 cnt=0x0400 >> info: read unit=0 sw=0x00 mod=0x00

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

On 3/10/2016 8:57 PM, Richard Cini wrote: Maybe I’ll re-create the image again and see if that helps. I’m using the RT11v4 image from the SIMH distribution and it boots just fine (as an RK05 image) under SIMH. Rich Try making an RL02 image from the RK05 image in SIMH and booting from that

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

On 3/10/2016 8:24 PM, Richard Cini wrote: Ok, I spent some time trying this again, and here’s what I did. The system is very basic — LSI-11 CPU, 32kw of RAM and two SLU cards. Have you checked your SLU addresses and vectors to be sure they're standard values (ie. what RT11 is expecting)? I

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

On 3/10/16, 8:51 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Don North" wrote: > >These last two read commands look awful suspicious to me. A single logical >device block is 512B (or 0x200) so the count >parameter is 0x200 for one block, 0x400 for

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

On 3/10/2016 5:24 PM, Richard Cini wrote: Gary, et. al.-- Ok, I spent some time trying this again, and here’s what I did. The system is very basic — LSI-11 CPU, 32kw of RAM and two SLU cards. Using PDP11GUI and TU58em emulator. XXDPD2D tape image loads and runs properly with this

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

Original message From: Richard Cini Date:03/10/2016 4:09 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03 If I have time tonight I'll log the session with "verbose" set on the TU58EM. Again, I'm trying

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

h DEC's offerings, AFAIK. > That being said, I personally don't have experience with true RT-11 on the > H-11. > > > Original message > From: Richard Cini > Date:03/10/2016 4:09 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" &

RE: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

. That being said, I personally don't have experience with true RT-11 on the H-11. Original message From: Richard Cini Date:03/10/2016 4:09 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03 If I have time tonigh

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

If I have time tonight I'll log the session with "verbose" set on the TU58EM. Again, I'm trying the trick of booting from a TU58 emulator and an RK image with DD as the boot target (supposedly can work but maybe slow). I can see the blocks being read in but it stops and doesn't give me the

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

On 10/03/2016 20:08, Paul Koning wrote: On Mar 10, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Pete Turnbull wrote: On 10/03/2016 19:28, Richard Cini wrote: I feel I'm close but I'm missing something. I may try 5.3 instead. I've got various RX01, RX02, RL01 and RL02 disks with RT-11 v2,

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

> On Mar 10, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > On 10/03/2016 19:28, Richard Cini wrote: >> Thanks Mattis. The system in question has 32kw of memory and it does >> pass the memory test. >> >> I have not tried to boot the resulting DD image on SIMH but the >>

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

On 10/03/2016 19:28, Richard Cini wrote: Thanks Mattis. The system in question has 32kw of memory and it does pass the memory test. I have not tried to boot the resulting DD image on SIMH but the original RK image does boot. I feel I'm close but I'm missing something. I may try 5.3 instead.

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

Thanks Jay. Admittedly I'm fishing here. I know that Heath had their own RT-11 for their floppy system but I don't have the floppy. The system is fairly generic in that it has only the CPU, RAM and two SLUs (one of which is used for an emulated TU58). Unless DEC made changes to the microm on

RE: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

The OP was specifically asking about RT11 on a Heathkit H11, not "just any ol' LSI-11". Very possible I'm completely incorrect here, but I thought I recalled that DEC gave heathkit a special price on H11 boards and OS license and such - so that Heathkit could produce the system for a price that

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

Thanks Mattis. The system in question has 32kw of memory and it does pass the memory test. I have not tried to boot the resulting DD image on SIMH but the original RK image does boot. I feel I'm close but I'm missing something. I may try 5.3 instead. Rich Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 10,

Re: Which RT-11 for an 11/03

2016-03-10 18:51 GMT+01:00 Richard Cini : > Is there a listing somewhere of what versions of RT-11 work with which > CPUs? The Heath H11 uses the LSI-11 which I think is an 11/03 equivalent. > Is there a specific version (or maximum version) designed for this CPU? > I have