RE: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-14 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
Al Kossow wrote: > Cleaning the Hakko is SO much easier than a > Pace (there is no glass to burn your > fingers on). The newer Pace desoldering tools (SX-90, SX-100) are much better, both in cleaning (disposable traps) and usage (the tips simply don't block at all). Bill S. --- This email has

Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-14 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I have a 605. I tend to use solder wick though, it has been a while since I needed a powered sucker. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:40 AM systems_glitch via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Another Hakko 472D owner here. Got mine in pieces as used/nonworking. > They're easy to rebuild. I've

Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-14 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
Another Hakko 472D owner here. Got mine in pieces as used/nonworking. They're easy to rebuild. I've used the 808s at workshops/friends' places, there's no comparison IMO. I use the "pencil" style handpiece, we had the "gun" style at a previous job, I definitely like the "pencil" style better.

Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-13 Thread Ed C. via cctalk
I have the combo unit including solder. I do not have any other experience with any high-end ware but I can say that this unit does all I need and does it well. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:17 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 11/13/18 7:38 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk

Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-13 Thread Jim Manley via cctalk
All this yammering about fancy desoldering gizmos harkens back memories of a "desoldering station" consisting of a hot soldering iron ... made of a hefty amount of copper (the kind you put in a pit of fire to heat up!) and a long, skinny screwdriver, or two, used to _very_ gently pry up ICs from

Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/13/18 7:38 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > Instead, I use two pencil-type irons, one in each hand, working under > a stereo microscope. The tips are much better, and manipulating each > tip independently provides great control of what's going on. Only > drawback is that if you want to

Re: desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-13 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
On the topic of desoldering tweezers: I don't like them. I've done tons of rework of components down to 0201 size. I consider 0201 to be difficult, but I found that once I could work on 0201 components at all, 0402 suddenly seemed easy to work with! Anyway, the tweezers I've used had poor tip

desoldering (was Re: VAX 9440)

2018-11-12 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/12/18 7:24 AM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > Hot air setup is the next thing. > I was doing some board repair this weekend, and used a mix of Hakko 472 vacuum and hot air equipment. I was having trouble clearing the holes completely with the Hakko so I heated the board with a 1" hot air