Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-14 Thread Fred Cisin
connected them with a Laplink parallel cable (I've still got a box of them). On Sat, 14 Nov 2015, Jules Richardson wrote: Roughly what length are the cables? And do you know if they do anything special internally regarding shielding of the data lines? They, and those of other similar

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-14 Thread Jules Richardson
On 11/13/2015 11:56 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: connected them with a Laplink parallel cable (I've still got a box of them). Roughly what length are the cables? And do you know if they do anything special internally regarding shielding of the data lines? I think I should probably wire one up,

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-14 Thread william degnan
On Nov 13, 2015 9:13 AM, "Johnny Billquist" wrote: > > On 2015-11-13 12:36, william degnan wrote: >> >> I used to use a program called Laplink, which came with special serial and >> parallel option cables to transfer files from one dos machine to another. >> It was useful to

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-14 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015, william degnan wrote: I have a copy of the laplink software should anyone need it. If the cable for parallel is just a null modem I suggest a person in this hobby definitely add laplink to the bag of tricks available. You just fire it up on both ends ll.exe ... and you'll

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Christian Corti
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, Tom Moss wrote: I've never seen anything works on the sector level, but there are plenty of There is DITU (Disk-Image Transfer Utility) for MS-DOS, and it's free including C source code. I use it e.g. to image the hard disk of a DOS PC into a file (either network or

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote: (Well, by straight through I mean that they were null-model cables.)

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Charles Anthony
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Jules Richardson < jules.richardso...@gmail.com> wrote: > Vintage PCs are just a pain - new enough to make significant use of hard > disk technology, but old enough that getting the data off them isn't quite > as trivial as it likely would be on a much newer

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Jules Richardson
On 11/12/2015 05:52 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 11/12/2015 01:54 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Josh Dersch
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Jules Richardson < jules.richardso...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/12/2015 05:52 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > >> On 11/12/2015 01:54 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: >> >> >>> > Alternatively, you could boot DOS from floppy with INTERLINK/INTERSVR >> installed and use another

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 11/13/2015 05:10 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: FWIW, DOS 6.xx will boot on anything 100% PC-compatible, 8088 on up, and it shouldn't have a problem reading filesystems created by earlier DOS versions. Assuming you can write a bootable floppy and get INTERLNK onto it, that would probably be the

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Tom Moss
This may also be of use: https://www.briggsoft.com/fmdos.htm On 12 November 2015 at 21:58, Tom Moss wrote: > I've never seen anything works on the sector level, but there are plenty > of terminal emulators that can backup entire directorties with YMODEM batch > or

x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Jules Richardson
As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options exist) I'm not finding anything via Google, but it seems like the sort of thing that

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Mouse
> As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up > an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to > a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options > exist) Bring up a liveCD or moral equivalent and run SLIP, then do any of many

RE: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Cindy Croxton
, 2015 3:54 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: x86/DOS system backup via rs232? As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options exist

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Warner Losh
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Mouse wrote: > > As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up > > an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to > > a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options > >

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Mouse
>> Bring up a liveCD or moral equivalent and run SLIP, then do any of >> many networked-backup variants? > Hmm, was SLIP an option for DOS TCP/IP stacks? I meant for the livecd to be on the usually-running-DOS machine. But see below. Of course, if you have the ability to add hardware, you might

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, Mouse wrote: However, I _think_ some old Sun and MicroVAX machines play in that space; I've seen Qbus hardware that talks to drives with card-edge connectors and I've seen SCSI-to-cardedge interfaces on Suns of Sun-3/260 vintage. I don't know the details of ST506, ESDI, and

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/12/15 4:00 PM, Mouse wrote: However, I _think_ some old Sun and MicroVAX machines play in that space; I've seen Qbus hardware that talks to drives with card-edge connectors and I've seen SCSI-to-cardedge interfaces on Suns of Sun-3/260 vintage. I don't know the details of ST506, ESDI,